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Just wondering what the saturation/loading time is for PA. Looking to have it kick in by the time I go into PCT - how long does it generally take for PA to take effect?
 
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I believe 2-3 weeks, maybe Danes could elaborate
 
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Just wondering what the saturation/loading time is for PA. Looking to have it kick in by the time I go into PCT - how long does it generally take for PA to take effect?
If PA worked thru saturation, then taking it pre workout would be pretty pointless.

People are experiencing effects pretty fast but strength and size gains will come after 3-4 weeks. Appetite,pumps etc are seen after just 1 week
 
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that^ it does not work off of saturation. but after about a week is when you really start noticing effects
 
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So can I take it on workout days only?
 

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how can something not work off saturation YET, take 1-3 weeks for most effects to kick in? That seems contradictory. Im not trying to be a smart as* either, ive read through most the threads and have seen both saturation/and not saturation theories. Is there really anything conclusive? I know its supposed to work best pre workout due to the pathways applied when working out, yet some of the above statements confuses that some.
 

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how can something not work off saturation YET, take 1-3 weeks for most effects to kick in? That seems contradictory. Im not trying to be a smart as* either, ive read through most the threads and have seen both saturation/and not saturation theories. Is there really anything conclusive? I know its supposed to work best pre workout due to the pathways applied when working out, yet some of the above statements confuses that some.
I think people are assuming you're talking about daily dosing irrespective of context, which is course not what you're saying.

Uptake will happen optimally (perhaps only notably, even) in the context of pre-workout consumption; full accumulation will likely take a few weeks depending on training frequency and routine particulars.

It'll start having an effect from the first time you have some before a workout, but if you want to be in the full swing, start 2-3 weeks prior.
 

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yeah that makes sense, i was probably looking at it too black and white. things like alcar are similar too from an acute/buildup stand point, acute focus, plus increased cognitive gains over time.
 
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how can something not work off saturation YET, take 1-3 weeks for most effects to kick in? That seems contradictory. Im not trying to be a smart as* either, ive read through most the threads and have seen both saturation/and not saturation theories. Is there really anything conclusive? I know its supposed to work best pre workout due to the pathways applied when working out, yet some of the above statements confuses that some.
Let me explain this very short and easy:

-PA activate mTOR thru LPA
-PA "converts" to LPA thanks to enzymes produced while working out/exercise (Physical stressor)it is working from day one (acute)

I know PA and steroids cant be compared but steroids dont need saturation either.
People believe if effects comes after 3-4 weeks then its due to saturation. Thats wrong.
(Should not be confused with AR receptor saturation with steroids)
 
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Guys i have og king by cutler nutrition, do you think il take it as a prewrkout empty stomach? Or i should follow label? I know some of you here already tried og king. Whay wer your recommended dosage? And also should i also take extra soy lecithin granules?
 
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Guys i have og king by cutler nutrition, do you think il take it as a prewrkout empty stomach? Or i should follow label? I know some of you here already tried og king. Whay wer your recommended dosage? And also should i also take extra soy lecithin granules?
Take them pre workout.
Next time, go for soy granules
 
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Take them pre workout.
Next time, go for soy granules

Tnx danes. I have soy lecithin granules bit not the fern brand. Only puritans pride. I think this also good to go :)
 
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Is it ok to take it with other prewrkout? I take maxout by iforce i should add this to my prewrkout regimen :) or il take first sky granules then wait 10minutes and sip maxout
 
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Is it ok to take it with other prewrkout? I take maxout by iforce i should add this to my prewrkout regimen :) or il take first sky granules then wait 10minutes and sip maxout
I've been downing my SL with my preWO, works well and no noticeable effect on the stim aspect of the preWO either...
 
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Is it ok to take it with other prewrkout? I take maxout by iforce i should add this to my prewrkout regimen :) or il take first sky granules then wait 10minutes and sip maxout
Totaly fine :)
 
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I just had to restock Fearn's. Not sure of the rules, so no links, but Swanson's had the cheapest price at $7.29. If you never purchased from them before (I hadn't) they had a 10% off link they send for the cost of giving them an email address. Free shipping if you spend $50. I got 8 cans for $6.65 ea., free shipping.

Amazon was expensive, as was Walmart and iHerb. Vitacost was out of stock.

Just an FYI.
 
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I just had to restock Fearn's. Not sure of the rules, so no links, but Swanson's had the cheapest price at $7.29. If you never purchased from them before (I hadn't) they had a 10% off link they send for the cost of giving them an email address. Free shipping if you spend $50. I got 8 cans for $6.65 ea., free shipping.

Amazon was expensive, as was Walmart and iHerb. Vitacost was out of stock.

Just an FYI.
First time buyers get that good discount from Swanson. I remember buying fearns lecithin there a few months back and I still have 4 tubs left!
 

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I just had to restock Fearn's. Not sure of the rules, so no links, but Swanson's had the cheapest price at $7.29. If you never purchased from them before (I hadn't) they had a 10% off link they send for the cost of giving them an email address. Free shipping if you spend $50. I got 8 cans for $6.65 ea., free shipping.

Amazon was expensive, as was Walmart and iHerb. Vitacost was out of stock.

Just an FYI.
Is this buying DIRECTLY from Swanson? I might try that.
 

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