- 03-26-2005, 11:07 PM
Have any of ya'll used this? http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/...roducts_id=153
Looks pretty interesting/scary lol.
- 03-26-2005, 11:25 PM
I'll be trying it soon and posting feedback ASAP.
- 03-26-2005, 11:45 PM
Kratom supposedly is quite addicting if you are prone to such things.
Over on avant in the neuroscience forum theres a long thread about Kratom by a current user.
Notice his posts when hes under the influence of Kratom. I find it histerical how flowery and eloquent his writing becomes.
03-26-2005, 11:54 PM
Well if its addicting, that kinda sucks, but I guess as long as it doesn't do much harm, should be ok. Does it have any bad effects in the body?Originally Posted by Enigma76
03-27-2005, 01:33 AM
What about Sceletium? Anyone carry this? From what I read over at Avant Labs:
Sceletium = makes you more extroverted
Krantom = makes you more introverted
03-27-2005, 01:39 AM
I placed an order for Kratum, and I'm an ex experienced user of mind alterating substances. I'm not expecting much from this, but I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. I am more interested in sceletium, since it's more on the lines of the altertanitive that I've been looking for. We'll see how it goes.
03-27-2005, 01:49 AM
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03-27-2005, 03:50 AM
caffene is highly addicting but no one seems to mind that...
03-27-2005, 08:19 AM
Sour, I love that icon! I have been through a couple ounces of leaf over the past 2 years and I doubt anyone is going to get addicted to it. I have not used the extract. The best ways to use the leaf are use a teaspoon to make a tea or put it between teeth and gum. It is excellent for allieviating fatigue. It wont get you stoned and using more than 2 or 3 grams at a time just uses it up quicker. There was also alot of fake stuff going around, fortunately I didnt encounter any.
03-27-2005, 12:03 PM
After reading the avant forum, sceletium interests me more also...
03-27-2005, 12:25 PM
Anyone know the legality of Sceletium? Also does anyone know how fast it loses its effectiveness and what are its negative effects?
Someone should make the "Social Party Stack". Something that works good and doesn't lose its effectiveness. It would sell big imo.
03-27-2005, 12:28 PM
Nevermind, I guess it is legal. It's here at iamshaman.com (http://www.iamshaman.com/eshop/10Browse.asp). I guess its called "Kanna".
This kanna comes from a small farm that uses only certified organic kanna plants, which is made into the exact product that is sold to pharmaceutical companies who make "smart" pills to stop panic attacks. This Kanna herb is green and finely powdered rather than tan and shredded, with a smokier aroma than other kinds.
WARNING! Kanna is believed to act as a Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI). In combination with common psychiatric medications including other SSRIs (such as Prozac) and MAO Inhibitors, it may cause injury if ingested.
03-27-2005, 12:32 PM
I hope Custom will consider carrying sceletium along with the krantom.
03-27-2005, 01:12 PM
YES!!!....you would take money from me on that one!
03-28-2005, 11:57 AM
Kratom contains a compound that is equipotent with morphine and one that is 30 times for potent, so comparing it to caffeine is pretty iffy.
03-28-2005, 03:22 PM
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I'm quite sure that niether substance will be legal for long so enjoy it while it lasts.
03-28-2005, 03:30 PM
I think you are right bioman, some dumb kid out there is going to want to take this to another level and add more things to it and cause some damage to himself. So, I agree enjoy it while you can!Originally Posted by bioman
03-28-2005, 03:53 PM
Intresting stuff. Scelectium that is...
03-28-2005, 04:33 PM
It's been illegal in other countries for 50-60 years. I'm not sure why you think this would pop on the FDA radar suddenly... unless of course a baseball player tries it and tells the press.
03-28-2005, 06:05 PM
i have been doing a little research since this stuff caught my eye. there is a whole world of research drugs out there just like the prohormones were. just as potent as the real stuff but the blah blah isomer is different(chemical jargon). imagine the rec drug version of m1t. some serious no joke 12 hour hallucinating ****. it really shocked me when i discovered legal compounds like this!
03-28-2005, 06:41 PM
Just curious but what are some of the names of these legal drugs?Originally Posted by hogiejoe
03-28-2005, 06:54 PM
here is a link with all of them. http://www.drugs-forum.co.uk/chemical-psychedelics.html the people in the forum are just like us except a bunch of hippies. if you want to do more research on the chemicals mentioned in the link go to www.erowid.com and look them up. crazy crazy **** man
03-28-2005, 07:00 PM
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03-28-2005, 08:28 PM
Just got to iamshaman.com and look stuff up. My cousin and I wanna try this stuff that makes you hallucinate for 2 days straight lol. Plus, the stuff you read about there can be bought there too.
03-28-2005, 09:19 PM
Dough!!Originally Posted by rrgg
03-28-2005, 10:23 PM
The Krantom stuff looks crazy, i am definately gonna get me some.
03-29-2005, 01:05 AM
Ahh look at that someone under 21 getting pumped for this... AMAZING!!! Let it all begin again.Originally Posted by superjock82
03-29-2005, 06:20 AM
which one do you want to try?Originally Posted by darius
03-29-2005, 11:18 AM
I was pretty let down by the sceletium. I tried many dosages from 350 mg-1750 mg. I really didnt notice a damn thing. Perhaps I was expecting a bit much, but the reports from AL made it sound wonderful. I wont buy it again.
03-29-2005, 12:16 PM
Could it be the type or form you got? are there difrent qualities?Originally Posted by dingling
03-29-2005, 12:31 PM
Damn this looked good...who's did you use?Originally Posted by dingling
03-29-2005, 03:27 PM
got it from iamshaman, which appears to have top quality products. this is the same place the guy from avant got his i believe.
03-29-2005, 03:29 PM
I might add, that everyone is different. Seems like there are people who respond very well to this. For 10 bucks plus shipping, it could be worth a shot for anyone interested in this type of product.
03-29-2005, 04:06 PM
Plus a large portion of drug use is perceived effect. The way you feel about hte drug can affect the way it makes you feel.Originally Posted by dingling
03-29-2005, 05:00 PM
Well that saels the deal for me. I have some research to do.Originally Posted by dingling
03-29-2005, 08:36 PM
I just want something that makes me ****en calm and mellow out. I'm not having any anxiety problems to where I need to go to the doc, but something OTC to help out a bit would be cool.
The hallucinating crap on iamshaman looks scary as hell. I would post up which one it was, but I couldn't find it again.. they have a ton of crap.
03-29-2005, 08:58 PM
Ingesting some of those things is almost exactly like giving yourself electro convulsive therapy without medical attention, you wouldnt do that would you?There is a supp called Theanine that can help, when using these you have to adjust to them to get the effect it takes time. Just my opinion
03-30-2005, 01:07 PM
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Hopefully we'll get some more feedback from all you folks.
with regards to Theanine, I believe it comes from green tea or something. I have tried it, and it isn't all that spectacular.