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Does anyone know the safest and highest amount of trib I could use. I just need it in my pct for harder erections.
Just go by the bottle directions. Too much trib can cause emotional sides and I've read a few threads where people actually got gyno from mega dosing it. It will only help with libido/desire, won't help with dong hardness.Does anyone know the safest and highest amount of trib I could use. I just need it in my pct for harder erections.
I'll take it then! More want will help that regardless. Thanks manJust go by the bottle directions. Too much trib can cause emotional sides and I've read a few threads where people actually got gyno from mega dosing it. It will only help with libido/desire, won't help with dong hardness.
Make sure it has high % of protodioscinI'll take it then! More want will help that regardless. Thanks man
If its a 40% Saponin tribulus like Optimum you can go about 5 - 6 Tabs a day. Mostly all tribulus caps are 40-45% saps. those are about 1-2% protodiocin, but anyway protodiocin isnt what makes you horny in tribulus. Id take 3 AM, 3 Mid-day, or 3-2, 2-1, etc etcDoes anyone know the safest and highest amount of trib I could use. I just need it in my pct for harder erections.
so mg wise I'd be taking 6750 mg of trib a day I believe. Is that healthy? I believe it'll work but being in pct ok sure my body's exhausted lol. If it's good to go I'll give it a try.If its a 40% Saponin tribulus like Optimum you can go about 5 - 6 Tabs a day. Mostly all tribulus caps are 40-45% saps. those are about 1-2% protodiocin, but anyway protodiocin isnt what makes you horny in tribulus. Id take 3 AM, 3 Mid-day, or 3-2, 2-1, etc etc
Those caps are 00 caps so about 750mg x 6 thats what, about 4,000mg or so or 40% tribulus which is more like just ground up tribulus. Its not some "mega dose" of Tribulus. I think I ran 5 of those tabs on top of test boosters with potent trib in it for weeks years ago. Tribulus will at the least help get your "volume" back.so mg wise I'd be taking 6750 mg of trib a day I believe. Is that healthy? I believe it'll work but being in pct ok sure my body's exhausted lol. If it's good to go I'll give it a try.
thanks man, I'll give it a go! It's ultimate nutritions tribulus btw. Nothing special just found a good deal.Those caps are 00 caps so about 750mg x 6 thats what, about 4,000mg or so or 40% tribulus which is more like just ground up tribulus. Its not some "mega dose" of Tribulus. I think I ran 5 of those tabs on top of test boosters with potent trib in it for weeks years ago. Tribulus will at the least help get your "volume" back.
Thats a good tribulus (for libido), its tribulus airal parts (means stem, leaf, fruit). I got a bottle in my office right now , looking at thethanks man, I'll give it a go! It's ultimate nutritions tribulus btw. Nothing special just found a good deal.
good to know! Thanks for the repliesThats a good tribulus, its tribulus airal parts (means stem, leaf, fruit). I got a bottle in my office right now haha
That is wrong sir,but anyway protodiocin isnt what makes you horny in tribulus. Id take 3 AM, 3 Mid-day, or 3-2, 2-1, etc etc
First of all that study is on a tribulus leaf extact standardized for protodiocin known as "Tribestan" which is/was sold for yeas by Sopharma (if Im correct), A company out of Arizona sold that extract also, I think Thermolife years ago. That extract is standardized for protodiocin but is high is total saponins such as tribulosaponin A, B, pseudoprotodiocin, etc, etc,That is wrong sir,
Tribulus is full of steroidal saponins but the main active saponins are protodioscin and protogracillin.have been reading many bulgarian studies that show that protodioscin is the most active .
"Milanov S, Maleeva E, Taskov M. Tribestan effect on the concentration of some hormones in the serum of healthy volunteers.Med-Biol Inf1985;4:27-9."
That study shows:
-Testosterone levels increased, on average, threefold in the men.
-Estradiol levels increased about 1.5 times in the men.
-In the women, the estradiol levels increased less than in the men, but the difference was still significant.
-Luteinizing hormone (LH) increased substantially in both men and women.
-Follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) increased substantially in women.
-protodioscin content have been demonstrated to produce proerectile effects in isolated tissues and aphrodisiac action
-protodioscin has been demonstrated to trigger release of nitric oxide in corpus cavernosum tissue
Never had any effect of optimum nutrition trbulus, but the one with 45% protodioscin, my libido was amazing
That is true also, Tribulus will increase your estrogen because excess testosterone is quickly converted to estrogen in general. Its the easiest way forEnjoy extremely elevated estrogen levels when taking high doses of tribulus - its a bad idea
Are you referring to a formula or a single ingredient product? We was talking about tribulus stand alone. Also anything that increase free test will increase estrogen, that's where the estrogen increase comes from, free test. bound test cant increase estrogen...Pretty sure analyzed supplements sell a Tribulus product which actually promotes free test & libido
tribulus is only worth it if you want to get horny, its useless for everything else. for test boosting properties, try combining Black Lion Research Viron, and some SNS Bulbine, which will control any e2 raise from vironThat is true also, Tribulus will increase your estrogen because excess testosterone is quickly converted to estrogen in general. Its the easiest way for
your body to get test levels in check. Any single test boosting material will increases E2. I believe nitric oxide products can increase estrogen also, but that's a whole other story.
Tribestan 15% protodioscin?? Thats really wrong!First of all that study is on a tribulus leaf extact standardized for protodiocin known as "Tribestan" which is/was sold for yeas by Sopharma (if Im correct), A company out of Arizona sold that extract also, I think Thermolife years ago. That extract is standardized for protodiocin but is high is total saponins such as tribulosaponin A, B, pseudoprotodiocin, etc, etc,
Ive been in the tribulus business for over 10 years. Tibestan isn't pure protodiocin, its about 50-80% total saponins and about 15% protodiocin. your interpreting the study wrong.
That study doesn't say they study those tribulus alkaloids [protodioscin and protogracillin]., produced xyz effect, it says the product "Tribestan" which happens to be high in protodioscin and protogracillin, (high as in more than other actives), but there are 100's so high is like 4mg if everything else is 1mg.
Ive sent tons of Tribulus to Chromodex...I know tribulus.
Let me give you an example, its very easy to standardize Fenugreek for protodiocin, it occurs at way higher natural levels than in tribulus. But back about
8 yrs ago when companies tried high potency protodiocin Fenugreek in in Test boosters when the prices of good tribulus more than doubled......it didst do sht, which is why you do not see high protodiocin Fenugreek in test boosters anymore.
There has also been high protodioscin tribulus out of China for cheap and it didnt do any thing in supplements years ago.
I also didn't say everyone will respond to Optimum tribulus, he asked about dosing it. I suggested how he should use the product he has
for libido. Not everyone responds to all things herbal, so you not responding to optimium tribulus doesnt mean it doeskin work because
Tribestan works. You every purchased sopharma Tribestan and used it? It doesn't work for every one neither.
Just looked up this company, they sell a test booster thats 100% Chlorophytum Borivilianum, which safed musli. At 1000mg a day safed musli has beenPretty sure analyzed supplements sell a Tribulus product which actually promotes free test & libido
Ok, fine if you think that also. My point is Tribestan is isn't all protodiocin, you interpreted the study wrong. I'm leaving it at that. ThanksTribestan 15% protodioscin?? Thats really wrong!
Real tribestan is 40-45% protodioscin!
I have been reading and researching about trib since 2004 and no one was good as tribestan.
I didn't say Trbestan wasn't a good product.I have been reading and researching about trib since 2004 and no one was good as tribestan.
Search DIESEL TEST on here and test results, and forget about stacking (3) $30 products.tribulus is only worth it if you want to get horny, its useless for everything else. for test boosting properties, try combining Black Lion Research Viron, and some SNS Bulbine, which will control any e2 raise from viron
I don't know what your implying here...I never said one active did all the "work" in a product, you did. I know a lot about ecdysterone also, used it in productsRemenber. There are many 100s of ecdysteroids around but does it mean all of them have effect on animals or humans? Maybe just 7-10 .
Same with saponins etc etc.
I have been purchasing (kgs), having tested and using tribulus in products since 2005, I'm not just spitting out a bunchI have been reading and researching about trib since 2004 ....
My point is and the studies and research are showing:I have been purchasing (kgs), having tested and using tribulus in products since 2005, I'm not just spitting out a bunch
of random stuff. I am not saying you are, but reading about powerlifing doesn't make anyone a 1200 total powerlifter does it??
I bet you know your stuff but remember i have been in bulgaria and have been at labs many times . Seen bulgarian studies and been reading then too. I am from bosnia and i do understand bulgarian language.I have been purchasing (kgs), having tested and using tribulus in products since 2005, I'm not just spitting out a bunch
of random stuff. I am not saying you are, but reading about powerlifing doesn't make anyone a 1200 total powerlifter does it??
Who said tribestan is just protodioscin??Ok, fine if you think that also. My point is Tribestan is isn't all protodiocin, you interpreted the study wrong. I'm leaving it at that. Thanks
I didn't say Trbestan wasn't a good product.
Oh ok cool, well like I said good Tribulus, and yes the best in the world use to come out of Bulgaria. They do not produce tribulus like they use to for US products. I never said Bulgarian tribulus wasnt good or the best or anything like that, I was saying that study uses a brand that is not only standardized forI bet you know your stuff but remember i have been in bulgaria and have been at labs many times . Seen bulgarian studies and been reading then too. I am from bosnia and i do understand bulgarian language.
I have been purchasing (kgs), having tested and using tribulus in products since 2005, I'm not just spitting out a bunch
of random stuff. I am not saying you are, but reading about powerlifing doesn't make anyone a 1200 total powerlifter does it??
just want to bring my libido back, I'm still getting gains in pct. I hope this helps!Im going to do a 8 week cycle of HTPA in March. so excited
Your correct, but I have tested and had the US company Chromadex print huge reports on the actives in Tribulus. I am just lettingBuying raws,making supps does not mean that one know what they are doing .
I am not saying this means you. But just saying
Amazing product!!!Im going to do a 8 week cycle of HTPA in March. so excited
Oh yes. i know you know a lot of tribulus and other plants/herbs.Your correct, but I have tested and had the US company Chromadex print huge reports on the actives in Tribulus. I am just letting
you know I know whats in Tribulus, way more than the average message board pubmed.com poster.
how many bottles did you buy!? LolAmazing product!!! I am on 10 caps at day
Your using 1 bottle every 9 days?Amazing product!!!
I am on 10 caps at day
how many bottles did you buy!? Lol
Believe me or not Chuck.Your using 1 bottle every 9 days?
You will be fine with 2 bottlesDanes why must you make me feel bad about only buying 2! I'm from UK so didn't wana buy more than 2 incase it didn't work for me
Diesel hardcore looks sick though
Yea that will be 72 days (8 bottles with 10 everyday)Your using 1 bottle every 9 days?
what the what?? wow. What dose did you start at? Or did you go "all in" at day one?Yea that will be 72 days (8 bottles with 10 everyday)
I must admit, i went all in at day onewhat the what?? wow. What does did you start at? Or did you go "all in" at day one?
On 10 a day when recommended dose is 3/day, Id feel like a rabbit, mixed with a Lion and Spartan warrior.I must admit, i went all in at day one
But its because i have tried all those ingredients found in HPTA before many times (even higher dosages, except bulbine)
Libido om HPTA is sick. Feel like a rabbit lol
Haha you described it very well!!On 10 a day when recommended dose is 3/day, Id feel like a rabbit, mixed with a Lion and Spartan warrior.