Non-stim focus.

[ma70]

Hey everyone. I'm about to take a stim break. What have you guys found are the best bang for buck non-stim focus supplements? Right now on my list I've got ALCAR (1000mg pre-workout) and Alpha-GPC (300mg pre-workout). Anything else or is this good enough?

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Conqu3r stim free stacked with caffeine free focus XT

 

[ma70]

Conqu3r stim free stacked with caffeine free focus XT

I'm cycling off Amentoflavone so I can't use Conqu3r. I guess I can just look at both of their ingredients and use the non-stim parts of it.

 

[EasyEJL]

Omniscienti by Animis may help. Its not super cheap like a bulk, but if one per day works its pretty inexpensive.

 

[Afi140]

Stim free focus xt and Antaeus has a modular series that has some nootropics you can look at. Below is one of them. They are relatively new but from what I have read they look good.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/7-8-dihydroxyflavone-by-antaeus-labs

 

[aaronuconn]

Another vote for stim free focus XT.

Could also try ALCAR + Huperzine + Citicoline.

 

[Jiigzz]

Another vote for stim free focus XT.

Could also try ALCAR + Huperzine + Citicoline.

Focus XT is a good, affordable option. I also love all things Anteus Labs

 

[TCardaci]

I've seemed to have success with ALCAR, Piracetam, and Bacopa. Good clean mental clarity and focus.

 

[koi1214]

Focus XT is a good, affordable option. I also love all things Anteus Labs

x2!

 

[heavylifter33]

Really tough to beat stim free focus xt, especially when you can stack it with bulk products like ALCAR very cheaply. I add ephedrine to mine for some added kick too. But that's a personal choice

 

[cumminslifter]

NOOpump

 

[TCardaci]

NOOPUMP is also a great product by mansports

 

[RegisterJr]

PumpX3 mixed with Max Pump.

 

[abformulations]

High volume is the best imo. You forget you even need a stim pre workout when using this. Amazing stuff.

 

[nattydisaster]

High volume is the best imo. You forget you even need a stim pre workout when using this. Amazing stuff.

Yes -- when this was an Athletix product and I tried it, I actually felt like I was getting a really clean focus feeling from it despite it having no stimulants. Very pleasant feeling, and perfect for gym domination

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

I agree that the original HV was an awesome product. Logged it. Loved it.

Now, the upgrade is just insane and is just amazing.

I said conquer because of the nootropics as an all in one product but if mixing use HV at 1.5 scoops stacked with ALCAR at 2g

 

[aaronuconn]

I agree that the original HV was an awesome product. Logged it. Loved it. Now, the upgrade is just insane and is just amazing. I said conquer because of the nootropics as an all in one product but if mixing use HV at 1.5 scoops stacked with ALCAR at 2g

I've yet to try it, but High Volume with ALCAR would be awesome. I've gone with PLCAR and enjoyed that but you don't get to quite reap the cognitive benefits.

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

I've yet to try it, but High Volume with ALCAR would be awesome. I've gone with PLCAR and enjoyed that but you don't get to quite reap the cognitive benefits.

Correct bro

 

[bolt10]

I've yet to try it, but High Volume with ALCAR would be awesome. I've gone with PLCAR and enjoyed that but you don't get to quite reap the cognitive benefits.

High Volume + ALCAR is awesome.

 

[Aleksandar37]

High Volume + ALCAR is awesome.

Yes it is!

 

[aaronuconn]

High Volume + ALCAR is awesome.

Okay, I'm sold. Next bottle of High Volume will be accompanied with ALCAR.

 

[kbayne]

Just ran out of my ALCAR tub .

 

[Segansational]

I agree that the original HV was an awesome product. Logged it. Loved it.

Now, the upgrade is just insane and is just amazing.

I said conquer because of the nootropics as an all in one product but if mixing use HV at 1.5 scoops stacked with ALCAR at 2g

A few options for single ingredients i like since OP said Conqu3r stim-free is out due to amento, ALCAR is an option for an add on, though by itself i find it to be less useful, Huperzine, and Racetams - heard lots of good feedback, but i have not personally tried them.

 

[bb333]

High Volume + ALCAR is awesome.

Add alcar, what are the benefits of high volume?
nootropic effect?

 

[aaronuconn]

Add alcar, what are the benefits of high volume? nootropic effect?

The Amentoflavone appears to assist with alertness (not in the sense of CNS-stimulation, though).

 

[-2z-]

Did they discontinue caffeine free Focus XT? It is increasingly hard to find.
Maybe it's just out of stock everywhere.
Even the SNS site does not show it in stock.

 

[-2z-]

Did they discontinue caffeine free Focus XT? It is increasingly hard to find.
Maybe it's just out of stock everywhere.
Even the SNS site does not show it in stock.

 

[Misfit28]

You aren't kidding, it's out everywhere. I have looked as well. I'll try to get an answer for you ASAP.

 

[cumminslifter]

PM me if you are interested in getting some

 

[Misfit28]

Did they discontinue caffeine free Focus XT? It is increasingly hard to find.
Maybe it's just out of stock everywhere.
Even the SNS site does not show it in stock.

Looks like they have it at Nutriverse.

 

[heavylifter33]

Hmm, glad i have 2 tubs still unopened!

 

[JRob23]

Surprised I didn't seen DMAE mentioned.

 

[-2z-]

Nutriverse didn't actually have it. After I ordered it they sent me something saying it's backordered. That was three weeks ago.

 

[NEBinAK]

Another vote for stim free focus XT.

Could also try ALCAR + Huperzine + Citicoline.

This, or maybe add choline, I love my alcar + choline + the occasional dendrobium

 

[heavylifter33]

This, or maybe add choline, I love my alcar + choline + the occasional dendrobium

I'm with ya there. Sucks for people that can't handle choline though lol. I'll add a little extra to Focus XT, plus alcar... hhhnnnggggg

 

[NEBinAK]

I'm with ya there. Sucks for people that can't handle choline though lol. I'll add a little extra to Focus XT, plus alcar... hhhnnnggggg

Wussies

 

[Shasow]

Modafinil without a doubt. Maybe with some l-tyrosine.

 

[Misfit28]

Nutriverse didn't actually have it. After I ordered it they sent me something saying it's backordered. That was three weeks ago.

Yeah, looks like it might be a few more weeks before it is back in stock

 

[alwaysfirst]

Conqu3r stim free stacked with caffeine free focus XT

Which one is better of those 2?

 

[Misfit28]

Which one is better of those 2?

For pure focus I would say Focus XT.

Conqu3r Demigod (Stim Free) is geared more towards workout performance, but has some great focus increasing ingredients as well (i.e. ALCAR, Tyrosine, Alpha GPC and Huperzine).

Focus XT is geared more towards cognitive/focus enhancement (i.e. Choline, Tyrosine, ALCAR, DMAE, Vinpocetine and Huperzine.)

For just academic or other cognitive pursuits, it would be best to use Focus XT, IMO. Using Conqu3r Stim-Free solo before those pursuits would just waste the workout/pump enhancing ingredients (i.e. Amentoflavone, COP, Cit Mal, Glycerol). Agmatine of course is good every day IMO

 

[Jiigzz]

Noopept XT and Focus XT.

Welcome to the matrix Neo.

 

[Hockeyaus33]

I will summon redman24 for you guys