Which is better for long term liver health? Is it better to take both during and after a PH cycle?
why is Liv52 garbage? Some very respected forum members swear by itLiv52 is complete garbage. Something like CEL Cycle Assist is great for prohormone use, and for general health. TUDCA is very potent, but also very expensive and very hard to source. I use Cycle Assist at 1 serving a day just for general health. Makes it very cost effective considering the servings contained in 1 bottle.
I have to agree..I wouldn't say garbage,but it is very over hyped.Tudca is a complete superior just my ,02cwhy is Liv52 garbage? Some very respected forum members swear by it
gotcha. I currently take TUDCA and will continue to. However, a buddy of mine had some extra LIV52 so I was wondering if it won't hurt if I take it as well, just for the added protection.I have to agree..I wouldn't say garbage,but it is very over hyped.Tudca is a complete superior just my ,02c
Mist be hundreds if not thousands of studies confirming the effectiveness of LIV 52 10 years before tudca. Its just a bit outdated now. You still cannot beat 6 bottles for 21$ shipped.;Liv52 is complete garbage. Something like CEL Cycle Assist is great for prohormone use, and for general health. TUDCA is very potent, but also very expensive and very hard to source. I use Cycle Assist at 1 serving a day just for general health. Makes it very cost effective considering the servings contained in 1 bottle.
Yeah I think the cheap price makes some think it's a cheap supp when its a tried and true supp that's not just marked up like crazy.Mist be hundreds if not thousands of studies confirming the effectiveness of LIV 52 10 years before tudca. Its just a bit outdated now. You still cannot beat 6 bottles for 21$ shipped.;
Like I said it is a good product,cheap and effective, but Tudca is a wonder for the liver.Why not both hahaYeah I think the cheap price makes some think it's a cheap supp when its a tried and true supp that's not just marked up like crazy.
Both is how I roll.Like I said it is a good product,cheap and effective, but Tudca is a wonder for the liver.Why not both haha
Mist be hundreds if not thousands of studies confirming the effectiveness of LIV 52 10 years before tudca. Its just a bit outdated now. You still cannot beat 6 bottles for 21$ shipped.;
So if it ran 30 a bottle you'd feel better about using it?? LolFrankly, that's a huge red flag. ~$3/bottle.
do you take both at the same time?Both is how I roll. Liv52 is just to cheap and effective not to be using it.
Not shipped from India and in sealed packages... I bet you just bought some PH or DS on clearance for around the same.. blacklac
and I am here to learn. how is it a poor product? bad ingredients? bad side effects? thanks for your help.I love how people like to talk about "the studies" regarding Liv52 yet have any of you even bothered to look in to the facts? I have. Hence i'm completely justified saying that Liv52 is over-hyped and an overall poor product in regards to others on the market, especially Cycle Assist. And i could care less who swears by it. I know plenty of guys with better physiques than myself who swear by glutamine, doesn't make them right.
This^^^^TUDCA + Cycle assit.
Agreed on all accounts although we (OL) have TUDCA it is a little on the expensive side but it's an expensive ingredient.Liv52 is complete garbage. Something like CEL Cycle Assist is great for prohormone use, and for general health. TUDCA is very potent, but also very expensive and very hard to source. I use Cycle Assist at 1 serving a day just for general health. Makes it very cost effective considering the servings contained in 1 bottle.
TUDCA + Cycle assit.
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no answer as to why Liv 52 is garbage...it must be legit then since it seems it's only others' opinions about the product.and I am here to learn. how is it a poor product? bad ingredients? bad side effects? thanks for your help.
It's underdosed and the "studies" are all published in bottom of the barrel journals that accept any submitted papersAny first hand knowledge as to why Liv 52 is "garbage"? poor ingredients? bad side effects? I am curious to know.
ok thanks brotherIt's underdosed and the "studies" are all published in bottom of the barrel journals that accept any submitted papers
Hey mate sorry i don't sit around the computer all day. I work 2 jobs, as well as being a rep, plus school, plus gym, plus social life. You'll excuse me if i don't answer everything instantly.no answer as to why Liv 52 is garbage...it must be legit then since it seems it's only others' opinions about the product.
Are people seriously praising liv52? hahahahFrankly, that's a huge red flag. ~$3/bottle.
Its legit because people dont answer within 5 minutes?no answer as to why Liv 52 is garbage...it must be legit then since it seems it's only others' opinions about the product.
ok sorry mate. so can you give me the "facts" that you found out as to why the product is garbage? you replied back, but gave no "facts" about it. thanks and I didn't mean to offend you.Hey mate sorry i don't sit around the computer all day. I work 2 jobs, as well as being a rep, plus school, plus gym, plus social life. You'll excuse me if i don't answer everything instantly.
so why is it not a praiseworthy product from your knowledge?Are people seriously praising liv52? hahahah
Im not saying skimp on support by any means. If it is really truly underdosed, you could literally run it triple the dosage for at least twice as long (with or without another support). And for half the cost of what most of the reps are pushing. No offence but many of the OP above still have no answer as to why it is "garbage".
thanks for the help! I'm glad I have TUDCAHere is the label. Notice how nothing is extracted. Triple dosing won't get you anywhere. There is no way you could humanly get a high enough daily dose without vomiting. This is because there are no actives, just a bunch of raw plant
Good choice.thanks for the help! I'm glad I have TUDCA
QuotedWeird. My label doesn't seem to have you prop blend.... mr.cooper69
OP means original poster; each thread only has oneIm not saying skimp on support by any means. If it is really truly underdosed, you could literally run it triple the dosage for at least twice as long (with or without another support). And for half the cost of what most of the reps are pushing. No offence but many of the OP above still have no answer as to why it is "garbage".
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when we ask for the facts about why Liv 52 is a poor product, they respond, but without giving us the facts, except for Mr. Cooper. oh well, TUDCA it is for superior liver support, but I will still take LIV 52 just for the extra added protection.Op can be original person or original people. Troll someone else.
Here is some info for you to read on LIV 52.its funny because when we ask for the facts about why Liv 52 is a poor product, they respond, but without giving us the facts, except for Mr. Cooper. oh well, TUDCA it is, but I will still take LIV 52 just for the extra added protection.
KOI! now you are definitely one of the more respected members here and you provided the exact same studies that I have already read about the efficacy of LIV 52. thanks brother!Here is some info for you to read on LIV 52. http://www.himalayawellness.com/pdf_files/liv238.pdf http://www.himalayawellness.com/research/liv52.htm
TUDCA is still much better for liver and other added benefits.As long as you have both, I agree with you.Use them both!If I had to chose 1, I will chose TUDCA hands down.KOI! now you are definitely one of the more respected members here and you provided the exact same studies that I have already read about the efficacy of LIV 52. thanks brother!