DAA EFFECTIVENESS?

[Bluedev14]

This stuff worth supplementing with for a 21 year old? Can I expect anything at all? Pretty experienced lifter of 4 years. Weigh 165ish max out bench around 285, squat 350, plateaued bad trying to find any edge.

 

[bigdogg2834]

I would say save your money. There have been some studies that have shown it to be affective for people with low test, which is why it's typically used during PCT. I doubt you would see much from it. You may want to try something like ARA or PA if you have not already. These seem to be two of the most effective supplements at the moment.

 

[ricroc]

Yeah, no need for DAA right now. It helps guys in their early 30s and upwards. As long as you're eating well and lifting, you're body's prime.

 

[bdcc]

One study showing increased testosterone in males:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19860889

and one study showing no increase as well as no effects to body composition:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24074738

 

[Afi140]

As for body composition You won't notice much. Now if your libido needs a boost (which I highly doubt at 21) that's where I really notice daa. if you're looking to add mass naturally there are much better options. You want an edge in strength and mass go for ABE and x-gels 100%. There are tons of threads about it here.

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/x-gels-by-serious-nutrition-solutions

http://www.strongsupplementshop.com/anabeta-elite-by-pes

 

[Rodja]

Main uses for DAA are going to be in PCT or for the lifter 30 and older. Any test booster isn't really going to do much for anyone only 21. That plateau is more likely a calorie and training issue than needing a supplement.

 

[JudoJosh]

Main uses for DAA are going to be in PCT or for the lifter 30 and older. Any test booster isn't really going to do much for anyone only 21. That plateau is more likely a calorie and training issue than needing a supplement.

^ agree'd

 

[Bluedev14]

ARA and pa?

 

[Danes]

ARA and pa?

ArA + PA = Most effective natural size and strength builders

 

[Bluedev14]

Ok sweet I'll check it out thanks

 

[Danes]

Ok sweet I'll check it out thanks

No problem

 

[Bluedev14]

They a good stack together?

 

[Bluedev14]

Recommended brands? Having a hard time finding products online

 

[Jiigzz]

Recommended brands? Having a hard time finding products online

Xgels for Ara (arachidonic acid). I didnt have luck with PA though

 

[ricroc]

What's PA?

 

[bdcc]

What's PA?

Phosphatidic Acid.

 

[paula]

ArA + PA = Most effective natural size and strength builders

Your no fan of new abe? I see that you starting to take ur ArA. Wish you luck my frend. Hope those side effect wont hurt ya.

 

[Bluedev14]

Like what?^

 

[Bluedev14]

It's a fatty acid profile side effects are minimal

 

[bigdogg2834]

Recommended brands? Having a hard time finding products online

X-Gels or X-Factor for ARA. For PA, do a search for Fearn Soy Lecithin Granules. They are an inexpensive source of PA. They typically run $7-$8 for a tub and two tablespoons contains 1200mg of PA. I would start there and you can try upping your dose as you go along.

 

[j4ever41]

well I am twice your age, actually more than twice,lol, and I have low test levels, daa did nothing for me, and I got bw before and after to prove it, I did not just try to go by how I felt, leave it alone its useless

 

[Bluedev14]

well I am twice your age, actually more than twice,lol, and I have low test levels, daa did nothing for me, and I got bw before and after to prove it, I did not just try to go by how I felt, leave it alone its useless

That's honestly super surprising I have heard of it working for about 95% of older guys at least

 

[j4ever41]

That's honestly super surprising I have heard of it working for about 95% of older guys at least

but did they get bw before and after or before and during? or did they just go by how they felt, I will say I got an increase in libido but that's all, I had actually taken daa several times and always thought it was increasing my test levels because the way I felt, then my last and final time I used I got bw and no increase, actually had a slight insignificant decrease in total test, and my free test dropped by about half, if you are stuck, I would evaluate your work outs with frequency and volume, and make sure you are hitting the macros that your body needs to meet your goals.

 

[Bluedev14]

I've got everything in check, I'm pretty sure I'm just at my natural limit for my body weight.

 

[mountainman33]

It's a fatty acid profile side effects are minimal

Inducing inflammation has negative effects on some people.

 

[Synapsin]

but did they get bw before and after or before and during? or did they just go by how they felt, I will say I got an increase in libido but that's all, I had actually taken daa several times and always thought it was increasing my test levels because the way I felt, then my last and final time I used I got bw and no increase, actually had a slight insignificant decrease in total test, and my free test dropped by about half, if you are stuck, I would evaluate your work outs with frequency and volume, and make sure you are hitting the macros that your body needs to meet your goals.

They usually do blood work before, during, and after. Some studies just do before and after, but none of the DAA studies I've read were qualitative in nature.