Benadryl - Which one to take to help sleep

[Joshlm69]

I've heard a lot of people have used Benadryl to fall asleep.

I just went to the pharmacy and bought :

Benadryl Allergy relief - Contains Acrivastine 8mg
Benadry One a day relief - Contains Cetrizine dihydrochloride 10mg

Which one would better put me to sleep, or are they both equally as good?

Thanks

 

[Joshlm69]

 

[JudoJosh]

The one with diphenhydramine

Or go with some chlorotest & dopadex. Add in some melatonin and you will have deep restful sleep

 

[Joshlm69]

The one with diphenhydramine

Or go with some chlorotest & dopadex. Add in some melatonin and you will have deep restful sleep

think I just wasted my $, neither have that ingredient in. Brilliant.

What kind of dose of melatonin, ive read 0.1-0.3 is the optimal. So I guess breaking a 1mg tablet in half?

 

[Jackedjack]

think I just wasted my $, neither have that ingredient in. Brilliant. What kind of dose of melatonin, ive read 0.1-0.3 is the optimal. So I guess breaking a 1mg tablet in half?

Lol way too low, I go up to five grams and some even consider that a low dose

 

[Joshlm69]

Lol way too low, I go up to five grams and some even consider that a low dose

I've been reading a lot of studies which state melatonin is infinitely more effective when dosed at .1 to .3mg as opposed to 3mg plus.

You disagree with this?

 

[blacklac]

You just have to see what dose works for you. Its harder to find melatonin below 1mg. Most are 3-5mg caps.

 

[jarrellt67]

I've been reading a lot of studies which state melatonin is infinitely more effective when dosed at .1 to .3mg as opposed to 3mg plus.

You disagree with this?

0.5 mg (sublingual) has worked better for me than higher doses.

 

[Joshlm69]

0.5 mg (sublingual) has worked better for me than higher doses.

I have 1mg tabs. So just break it in half and put it under my tongue?

 

[jarrellt67]

That's what I do. Douglas Labs, Source Naturals and Ortho Molecular all make 1 mg sublingual tablets that can be split and dissolve quickly under the tongue.

 

[harbonah]

I've been reading a lot of studies which state melatonin is infinitely more effective when dosed at .1 to .3mg as opposed to 3mg plus.

You disagree with this?

I was reading a study on this recently above 3mg seemed to increase the times per night a person woke up. I'll try to find it I think it was a journal at work.

 

[Joshlm69]

That's what I do. Douglas Labs, Source Naturals and Ortho Molecular all make 1 mg sublingual tablets that can be split and dissolve quickly under the tongue.

Ahhhh, so a normal 1mg tablet isnt the same as a 1mg sublingual tablet? So is there no point me putting a regular tablet under my tongue?

 

[jarrellt67]

Ahhhh, so a normal 1mg tablet isnt the same as a 1mg sublingual tablet? So is there no point me putting a regular tablet under my tongue?

I'm not sure. You might have problems with it dissolving (depending on the binders that were used)...or it might work fine. I would try it and see before buying something else.

 

[LeanEngineer]

I take some benadryl if im really having trouble falling asleep and i pretty much have to be in bed when i take it, cause it knocks me out haha

 

[NurseGray]

Defiantly go with the melatonin.

In response to the benadryl both you purchased are non drowsy.

 

[Joshlm69]

Defiantly go with the melatonin.

dosing?

 

[NurseGray]

For insomnia:
0.3-5 mg at bedtime is a typical dose.

 

[NurseGray]

Start with the low does test tolerance and increase PRN

 

[NurseGray]

You can reference HERE

 

[Joshlm69]

You can reference HERE

Thank you.

Would you combine this with valerian root? I was thinking of picking up Kalms One a night sleeping pills to combo it with (385 valerian root), or take melatonin solo?

 

[NurseGray]

I always recommend to my patient to test tolerance with one medication at a time. You can't get a good gauge of effects using two or more things together. Plus its harder to narrow down side effects and which medication they are caused by. This is especially with meds like anti-psychotics and such. It really gets under my skin when docs jump people from one to the other with no taper. Really messes folks up sometimes.

 

[Joshlm69]

I always recommend to my patient to test tolerance with one medication at a time. You can't get a good gauge of effects using two or more things together. Plus its harder to narrow down side effects and which medication they are caused by. This is especially with meds like anti-psychotics and such. It really gets under my skin when docs jump people from one to the other with no taper. Really messes folks up sometimes.

I havent slept properly in a month. The last 2 days I havent slept, period. maybe an hour each night. I NEED to sleep tonight. I sleep awfully. I can get ahold of melatonin and valarian root, and anything not subscription from a pharmacy. I just need something to put me to sleep, even knock me out.

If you have any recommendations I'd really appreciate it.

 

[NurseGray]

Go with the melatonin if you never have used it before it should do the trick. Melatonin is a hormone so it should work more directly than the root.

 

[Joshlm69]

Go with the melatonin if you never have used it before it should do the trick. Melatonin is a hormone so it should work more directly than the root.

I added melatonin 2mg to my g8 last night and couldnt sleep. I took 1mg melatonin a week ago or so and it didnt really help.

Do you think just taking 3g of melatonin will be sufficient? or combining 3mg melatonin with valarian root?

At this stage all im looking for is 4+ hours sleep so I can function tomorrow. The last 2 nights have been hell

 

[NurseGray]

The Standard dosage for Children is 5mg Nightly. Try that with your G8. Is stress a factor in this?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

have you tried adding a little alcohol prior to bed.. like a glass of wine? also play with your dosages of G8 try more or less to see if u find a sweet spot.

 

[NurseGray]

have you tried adding a little alcohol prior to bed.. like a glass of wine? also play with your dosages of G8 try more or less to see if u find a sweet spot.

Ha agreed nothing a shot of white lightning can't fix

 

[Joshlm69]

The Standard dosage for Children is 5mg Nightly. Try that with your G8. Is stress a factor in this?

Im not sure I can risk taking g8 in the week again. the last 2 nights it wired my brain. Ill try 3-5g of melatonin solo tonight

 

[Joshlm69]

have you tried adding a little alcohol prior to bed.. like a glass of wine? also play with your dosages of G8 try more or less to see if u find a sweet spot.

Ill buy a bottle of red tonight and have a glass pre bed

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

good and this weekend when you test your g8 again use a new dose and have a glass of wine .. also sip your G8 and kick back and relax with some tv or something.. it coms on after about 30 mins for me

 

[Joshlm69]

good and this weekend when you test your g8 again use a new dose and have a glass of wine .. also sip your G8 and kick back and relax with some tv or something.. it coms on after about 30 mins for me

I still have faith in g8 buddy! Ill find my optimum dosing this weekend I hope and update the log this weekend!

 

[nicksox15]

Have you been to a doctor? What all supps are you taking?

 

[kisaj]

Definitely start low on the melatonin and adjust. I can't take it as it makes me a miserable, moody piece of crap the next day. Others love it.

 

[kisaj]

I am surprised by the ingredient profile in G8 because the mood elevation blend would have me buzzing for hours. L-tyrosine is very energizing.

 

[Joshlm69]

I am surprised by the ingredient profile in G8 because the mood elevation blend would have me buzzing for hours. L-tyrosine is very energizing.

This was my experience on g8. I felt very awake within 30mins of taking it

 

[Joshlm69]

Have you been to a doctor? What all supps are you taking?

I've been to a doctor and all they do is give me scripts, which are extremely harmful long term.

Sups, laxogenin + edcy
And a test booster.

All dosed at 9am

 

[nicksox15]

Was this happening before you started taking those supps? Maybe go to a sleep specialist or a therapist to find if there's an underlying issue.

 

[Joshlm69]

Was this happening before you started taking those supps? Maybe go to a sleep specialist or a therapist to find if there's an underlying issue.

Yeah it's been all my life. I want to get sleep hypnosis but it's $500 I don't currently have

 

[nicksox15]

Ahh yea, sorry to hear that bro. It can get so frustrating dealing with sleep issues, hope you can find something that works for ya!

 

[Todd Garner]

Mid Nite Natural Herds, Melatonin 1.5mg, Proprietary Blend 22mcg of Lemon Balm, Chamomile, Lavender

 

[Joshlm69]

Took 3mg of melatonin last night 15mins before bed and a glass of red wine with dinner.

Slept better last night, still woke up a lot but better than the previous 2 nights

 

[Joshlm69]

Mid Nite Natural Herds, Melatonin 1.5mg, Proprietary Blend 22mcg of Lemon Balm, Chamomile, Lavender

doesnt look like it exists in the UK

 

[Joshlm69]

NurseGray

will this be okay? 2 of these a night to help sleep?

 

[RegisterJr]

Personally, alcohol makes me wake up more.

Also, I wouldn't entertain attempting that as a permanent solution. It doesn't take long before one glass doesn't do it, then two, etc.

Just my 2¢

 

[NurseGray]

Personally, alcohol makes me wake up more.

Also, I wouldn't entertain attempting that as a permanent solution. It doesn't take long before one glass doesn't do it, then two, etc.

Just my 2¢

I agree with RegisterJr on the alcohol bit. Definitely not a permanent solution for sleep but a glass of red it great for overall health. As far as the benadryl that is the right kind but again you are going to take it and hope for a side effect of the medication to put you to sleep. It doesn't always work on everyone. It sounds to me like there might be some other factors that haven't been mentioned. What time of day do you workout. How is the stress in your life? Are you able to have sex before bed? Have you tried warm milk?

 

[Joshlm69]

Workout at 5.30pm, sex before bed is fine when gf is not at college (it didnt help the sun & mon night), havent tried warm milk as of yet

definitely wouldnt try alcohol as a solution as I hate the stuff, is a glass of red beneficial daily?

 

[NurseGray]

Workout at 5.30pm, sex before bed is fine when gf is not at college (it didnt help the sun & mon night), havent tried warm milk as of yet definitely wouldnt try alcohol as a solution as I hate the stuff, is a glass of red beneficial daily?

there are numerous studies showing a glass of red is beneficial for heart health

 

[NurseGray]

Workout at 5.30pm, sex before bed is fine when gf is not at college (it didnt help the sun & mon night), havent tried warm milk as of yet definitely wouldnt try alcohol as a solution as I hate the stuff, is a glass of red beneficial daily?

try working out earlier in the afternoon. Your body might not want to wind down

 

[threeFs]

I've taken up to 100mg of diphenhydramine/night. But works best for me is 3mg of melatonin. I've taken melatonin with diphen. but slowly dialed back the diphen. Melatonin alone works best for me, and I'm on a high tren cycle. I used to wake up 3-4 times/night and the melatonin makes me sleep through.

 

[threeFs]

there are numerous studies showing a glass of red is beneficial for heart health

the problem with alcohol at night is when it's all metabolized, the body gets low blood sugar, sending an adrenaline spike which can wake people up. That said, I drink often and melatonin trumps all that