Best investment in supps for a vacation blast?

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

I have a little vacation of about 12 weeks upcoming. I plan to use the time bringing up lagging muscle groups. My diet/nutrition is in check, trust me this isn't in question. My recovery time will be excellent during this vacation. Question is what supplementation would you recommend?

As I stated my goal is symmetry, not pounds or inches. I just want to make the most of the 12 weeks off I have coming. The only thing I'm sure of is Arachadonic acid. I've been lifting 12 years, happy with my progress, but this is a chance to really blast out some progress. No dollar limit, but not looking for a plethora of supps either. Also if there's anything I really ought to be looking into as a staple I'm open to it. I'm on nothing but creatine at the moment. I'm not talking about the obvious though, as I'm also a regular on fish oil, multis and the like. Clean slate, so to speak.

Thanks in advance for your input! Keith

 

[Misfit28]

I think you should get these in conjunction with your ArA:

A natty test booster
A Carnitine source (LCLT, ALCAR, etc.)
GMS
Anabeta Elite

Just a few suggestions

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Oh, forgot to mention TRT at 300mg weekly.

GMS?

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

how about a nice pre work out then? perhaps a pump product to stack with it?

 

[AaronJP1]

I have a little vacation of about 12 weeks upcoming. I plan to use the time bringing up lagging muscle groups. My diet/nutrition is in check, trust me this isn't in question. My recovery time will be excellent during this vacation. Question is what supplementation would you recommend? As I stated my goal is symmetry, not pounds or inches. I just want to make the most of the 12 weeks off I have coming. The only thing I'm sure of is Arachadonic acid. I've been lifting 12 years, happy with my progress, but this is a chance to really blast out some progress. No dollar limit, but not looking for a plethora of supps either. Also if there's anything I really ought to be looking into as a staple I'm open to it. I'm on nothing but creatine at the moment. I'm not talking about the obvious though, as I'm also a regular on fish oil, multis and the like. Clean slate, so to speak. Thanks in advance for your input! Keith

Looking for something fun huh?
Pre workout, natural anabolic or test booster, & maybe a pump/amino supplement to help with endurance.
D-Pol, AminOD, Condense, NOxygen would be a nice stack, especially if money is no object.
Don't stop there though, there's a lot of other great pump, energy, & amino supplements out there.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Amino - yes
Preworkout - no interest
Natural - sure
Pump - not sure

Looking for anabolism, pure and unadulterated. So to speak. Not a miracle. An edge. A boost.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Been looking at things like AA, slin-sane (or similar acting), nutrient partitioners etc.

 

[Misfit28]

Oh, forgot to mention TRT at 300mg weekly. GMS?

Glycerol monostearate. It helps to emulsify the ArA for better skeletal muscle uptake.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

AA, MyoSynergy, Slin product, GMS....more?

 

[The Solution]

Amino - yes
Preworkout - no interest
Natural - sure
Pump - not sure

Looking for anabolism, pure and unadulterated. So to speak. Not a miracle. An edge. A boost.

Amino ---> Core ABC, PES Amino IV, Xtend, Intrabolic be good choices
Pump wise --> Hemavol, Noxygen, White Pump, Body Octane (if you are unsure)
Booster ---> ABE (Gets a lot of praise, never ran it though)
ARA or GDA Wise --> SS V2, Recompodrol, Burn 24 (never tried) but heard good things.

 

[Aleksandar37]

12 weeks?!?! Just a little jealous.

ArA and AnaBeta Elite stack extremely well together and quite a few people on this board have used that combination with excellent results.

 

[cubsfan815]

I think you should get these in conjunction with your ArA:

A natty test booster
A Carnitine source (LCLT, ALCAR, etc.)
GMS
Anabeta Elite

Just a few suggestions

Amino ---> Core ABC, PES Amino IV, Xtend, Intrabolic be good choices
Pump wise --> Hemavol, Noxygen, White Pump, Body Octane (if you are unsure)
Booster ---> ABE (Gets a lot of praise, never ran it though)
ARA or GDA Wise --> SS V2, Recompodrol, Burn 24 (never tried) but heard good things.

12 weeks?!?! Just a little jealous.

ArA and AnaBeta Elite stack extremely well together and quite a few people on this board have used that combination with excellent results.

Lots of good advice here.

I will add Alphamax: It is a great standalone testbooster/ai and it stacks insanely well with Ara and ABE/AB

Full 75mg Arimistane a strong AI,
Full 1.4g of Divanill which is great for Free Test
300mg 98% L-DOPA,
50mg of Forskolin-95.

Island Supplements has it for $28.99 right now, the Arimistane and F95 is worth more than that alone.

http://www.islandsupplements.com/performax-labs-alpha-max.html

 

[TKC432]

Some nice options here .... added a few to the growing list

Amino ---> BCAA+SAA (FINAFLEX),Core ABC, PES Amino IV, Xtend, Intrabolic
Pump wise --> Max Pump (FINAFLEX), Hemavol, Noxygen, White Pump, Body Octane
Booster ---> Pure Test & Mass 550 (FINAFLEX), ABE
ARA or GDA Wise --> SS V2, Recompodrol, Burn 24

 

[AntM1564]

Lots of good advice here.

I will add Alphamax: It is a great standalone testbooster/ai and it stacks insanely well with Ara and ABE/AB

Full 75mg Arimistane a strong AI,
Full 1.4g of Divanill which is great for Free Test
300mg 98% L-DOPA,
50mg of Forskolin-95.

Island Supplements has it for $28.99 right now, the Arimistane and F95 is worth more than that alone.

http://www.islandsupplements.com/performax-labs-alpha-max.html

F95 is about the same price as Alphamax alone. Alphamax will help you lean out, have a dry look, and boost free and total test. Not to mention, increased libido is usually noticed within the first week or two so if you;re going on vacation if a loved one, you'll have fun for sure

It stacks nicely with AB and ArA products. I would also suggest core abc, alpha amino, intrabolic, and purple wraath for amino acids. I've been loving Noxygen for a pump product lately. and you can never go wrong with SSv2

 

[AaronJP1]

Amino ---> Core ABC, PES Amino IV, Xtend, Intrabolic be good choices Pump wise --> Hemavol, Noxygen, White Pump, Body Octane (if you are unsure) Booster ---> ABE (Gets a lot of praise, never ran it though) ARA or GDA Wise --> SS V2, Recompodrol, Burn 24 (never tried) but heard good things.

Some nice options here .... added a few to the growing list Amino ---> BCAA+SAA (FINAFLEX),Core ABC, PES Amino IV, Xtend, Intrabolic Pump wise --> Max Pump (FINAFLEX), Hemavol, Noxygen, White Pump, Body Octane Booster ---> Pure Test & Mass 550 (FINAFLEX), ABE ARA or GDA Wise --> SS V2, Recompodrol, Burn 24

F95 is about the same price as Alphamax alone. Alphamax will help you lean out, have a dry look, and boost free and total test. Not to mention, increased libido is usually noticed within the first week or two so if you;re going on vacation if a loved one, you'll have fun for sure It stacks nicely with AB and ArA products. I would also suggest core abc, alpha amino, intrabolic, and purple wraath for amino acids. I've been loving Noxygen for a pump product lately. and you can never go wrong with SSv2

Good to see the support for NOxygen!
Tons of options listed!
OP, let us know what you end up going with.

 

[The Solution]

I should be logging Noxygen very shortly here soon. cant wait to give it a crack
Need it for a stim break after Stimino!

 

[ELROCK]

I have a little vacation of about 12 weeks upcoming. I plan to use the time bringing up lagging muscle groups. My diet/nutrition is in check, trust me this isn't in question. My recovery time will be excellent during this vacation. Question is what supplementation would you recommend?

As I stated my goal is symmetry, not pounds or inches. I just want to make the most of the 12 weeks off I have coming. The only thing I'm sure of is Arachadonic acid. I've been lifting 12 years, happy with my progress, but this is a chance to really blast out some progress. No dollar limit, but not looking for a plethora of supps either. Also if there's anything I really ought to be looking into as a staple I'm open to it. I'm on nothing but creatine at the moment. I'm not talking about the obvious though, as I'm also a regular on fish oil, multis and the like. Clean slate, so to speak.

Thanks in advance for your input! Keith

Huh...who takes a 12 week vacation???

 

[cubsfan815]

Huh...who takes a 12 week vacation???

I was thinking maybe a company that shuts down for a while. Manufacturing or construction.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

The Ford assembly plant in Kansas City is shutting down to changeover for the 15 model year.

 

[cubsfan815]

The Ford assembly plant in Kansas City is shutting down to changeover for the 15 model year.

I was figuring something like that. We have a Chrysler plant near us, it does the same thing.

 

[kisaj]

Oh, forgot to mention TRT at 300mg weekly.

GMS?

Oh, so you are already running a cycle. Then you can pretty much add in anything, maybe a fat burner to get a little more cut up.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Anything isn't very specific to my goal though.

It's not a cycle, it's for life.

 

[Aleksandar37]

Have you considered breaking the 12 weeks into an 8 week bulk and then going into a 4 week cut? If so, I would highly recommend running ArA and AnaBeta Elite together for 8 weeks while you add on muscle and focus on improved symmetry and bringing up lagging muscles as stated. If your diet is in check, you're not going to get much fat gain, but the 4 week cut after that could be done to really show off what you've gained muscle-wise.

 

[kisaj]

Anything isn't very specific to my goal though.

It's not a cycle, it's for life.

I was being facetious because 300mg isn't TRT. I say a fat burner because at level of test, there is little in OTC that are going to do much more for symmetry other than adjusting your routine possibly. Possibly increasing the free test ala Viron could assist as you no doubt are riding on high total test.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

I was being facetious because 300mg isn't TRT. I say a fat burner because at level of test, there is little in OTC that are going to do much more for symmetry other than adjusting your routine possibly. Possibly increasing the free test ala Viron could assist as you no doubt are riding on high total test.

Adjusting routine is obvious since my goal is changed. 3 month test...tests...are mid to mid high.

I'm not asking for supps to aid symmetry, but to maximize anabolism.

So far, a few locks but certainly still open to more ideas
Arachnidonic acid (X Factor)
Slin sane (can't find V2!!)
Bmp (when released)
Myosynergy
Recompadrol (if I can't find SSV2)
and still considering preworkout/no2 type products.

 

[kisaj]

Oh, your initial post said your goal is symmetry. If you are looking to maximize anabolism, as I mentioned, look to increase your free test as you already have high total test.

Also, if you are running dosages like that and are in mid- mid high range, you need to find out why. You should be completely off the charts.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

This is getting interesting. Soooo, I said I'm changing my routine to help lagging parts. To help symmetry. I have 12 weeks to play with, so I want the best bang in the time I have. So I want to maximize anabolism.

I do not have high test. I stated my tests are normally mid range occasionally mid-high.

So, you can argue MY goals and MY tests if you like, but it won't change anything.

 

[kisaj]

For the 3rd time, look to increase your free test.

 

[Adizzle1]

Alphamax + ARA by far would be your best bet for what your looking for. First off, ARA has plenty of positive feedback and clinical studies proving its effeciency!

Alphamax contains a full 50mg of 95% Forskolin, a dose shown in clinical studies proven in humans to increase Lean Body Mass while decreasing Fat Mass. As mnetioned above it contains a full 1.4 grams of Divanill, leading to lowered SHBG and increased Free Testosterone.

Contains 300mg 98% L-DOPA which will increase Total testosterone having synergistic effects with Divanill. And to round it out it contains a full 75mg Arimistane, this will keep estrogen under control while also controlling cortisol, leading to an increase anabolic enviroment.

Best of all, its an open label so you know exactly what your getting. Theres TONS of logs with ARA + Alphamax, check them out!!

 

[Misfit28]

The new Conqu3r Demigod pre-workout looks very promising.

 

[AntM1564]

Alphamax + ARA by far would be your best bet for what your looking for. First off, ARA has plenty of positive feedback and clinical studies proving its effeciency!

Alphamax contains a full 50mg of 95% Forskolin, a dose shown in clinical studies proven in humans to increase Lean Body Mass while decreasing Fat Mass. As mnetioned above it contains a full 1.4 grams of Divanill, leading to lowered SHBG and increased Free Testosterone.

Contains 300mg 98% L-DOPA which will increase Total testosterone having synergistic effects with Divanill. And to round it out it contains a full 75mg Arimistane, this will keep estrogen under control while also controlling cortisol, leading to an increase anabolic enviroment.

Best of all, its an open label so you know exactly what your getting. Theres TONS of logs with ARA + Alphamax, check them out!!

I finished that stack about 6 weeks ago. Absolutely loved the ArA + Alphamax stack. I look full all the time, gained nice strength, and size was up without the waist going up!

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Reviews look good, might add Alphamax to the list.

 

[Misfit28]

You also might want to check out some AdrenoSurge. Everyone knows better sleep is more anabolic

And if you wanted to ratchet up the libido a bit, you could throw in some MacaPro as well

 

[AntM1564]

Reviews look good, might add Alphamax to the list.

There is a reason why it is in the top 100 list for NP. It is truly an all in one product with an open label. Instead of taking one cap of x supplement and one cap of y supplement two or three times a day, you just need to take the one supplement which is easier for some people who can be forgetful or have a busy schedule. Alphamax also has immediate effects as well as long term. It is also very versatile and can be stacked with what you have listed.

 

[The Solution]

So far, a few locks but certainly still open to more ideas
Arachnidonic acid (X Factor)
Slin sane (can't find V2!!) V2 can be found in many stores... where are you looking?
Bmp (when released)
Myosynergy
Recompadrol (if I can't find SSV2) I would suggest Burn 24 as well
and still considering preworkout/no2 type products.

Pre-workout or non stim ---> Hemavol, White Pump, Body Octane top 3 IMO
Low stim or high stim pre?

 

[SwolenONE]

Arachidonic Acid (X-Factor) and Forskolin are the kings of recomp. Nothing else other than a good diet and your staples will be needed to see dramatic changes.

 

[cubsfan815]

Yup ArA and F95 are killer for recomp.

That's why Alphamax is such good deal.

For basically same price as 30day F95

You get F95 plus free Arimistane, Divanil, LDopa, etc lol.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Arachnidonic acid (X Factor)
Bmp (upon release)
Myosynergy
Recompadrol
Alphamax

Looks like my shopping list. Now, too much? Anything I should delete due to redundancy? Seems ok to me but again everyone had great input, always interested in more thoughts.

 

[throneof]

Amino - yes Preworkout - no interest Natural - sure Pump - not sure Looking for anabolism, pure and unadulterated. So to speak. Not a miracle. An edge. A boost.

Not sure if anything is going to give you an edge over the 300 mg of test you're already taking, as that's well above aTRT dose. But I've always found a solid BCAA bulk powder with citrulline malate and a little caffeine PWO gets me feeling and looking great during training

 

[Jiigzz]

Lots of good suggestions in here, although I sense you may end up with more recommendations than you can sift through.

Keep it simple, nail down the basics first- healthwise, vitamin E & D3 would be solid additions to your stack.

Ara; look into Xgels. Heres a guide that will help you out a little: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/246394-arachidonic-acid-help.html

We also sell Creatine Mono for under $15 at Nutraplanet that will last you a year if you dose 3g on workout days (1.2kg).

Look to increase Free test over total T. While both are important, it is unbound free test that will serve you the best.

Stack with some Alphamax and you'll be good to go IMO

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

For all the doctors out there, here's where I go for my tests and TRT:
http://www.urologyspecialistskc.com/

I see Dr. Frank Albani, feel free to contact him and tell why you think my TRT is wrong

 

[Jiigzz]

For all the doctors out there, here's where I go for my tests and TRT:
http://www.urologyspecialistskc.com/

I see Dr. Frank Albani, feel free to contact him and tell why you think my TRT is wrong

Who said TRT was wrong? Or did you misinterpret what people are telling you?

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Who said TRT was wrong? Or did you misinterpret what people are telling you?

did I misinterpret folks saying my dose is too high?

 

[Jiigzz]

did I misinterpret folks saying my dose is too high?

Oh. No, its not high enough

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

Oh. No, its not high enough

Ha, I'd gladly go up, doubt insurance would oblige!

 

[kisaj]

The fact is, it is a high amount of testosterone to take for TRT. That isn't an argument and no one really cares what you are doing, simply pointing it out since it was brought up.

 

[ThaPeoplesChamp]

The fact is, it is a high amount of testosterone to take for TRT. That isn't an argument and no one really cares what you are doing, simply pointing it out since it was brought up.

? Sure

 

[xhrr]

My favorite Natty stack ever was Burn 24, F95, and alphamine. Ara could easily be added pre of your looking for some added growth. I gained probably 10 lbs over two months with that stack though and stayed very lean.