After Norco what pre do you recommend?

[FitnessXtrm]

I'm about to finish up Norco before I have to take a 4 week break from therms. I will start on AT2 next week (decided to wait to take after Norco). I also work out early mornings. What pre do you recommend that will give me good energy but allow me to still take it while I'm supposed to be off therms for 4 weeks.

Thanks all!

 

[TrainPsycho]

I'm about to finish up Norco before I have to take a 4 week break from therms. I will start on AT2 next week (decided to wait to take after Norco). I also work out early mornings. What pre do you recommend that will give me good energy but allow me to still take it while I'm supposed to be off therms for 4 weeks.

Thanks all!

Did you leave a review for norcodrene?

 

[haiz69]

Do you still want a stimulant pre-workout?

I would suggest taking a look at Olympus Labs Conqu3r or Performax Labs Hypermax. Alternatively, if you want a more fat-burner focused product, you could stay inside the PES family and look at alphamine, which I particularly like with some added carnitine.

Conqu3r and Hypermax both have extremely strong stimulant complexes and well-dosed performance enhancing ingredients. Have you used a product with AMP Citrate yet?

 

[Driven2lift]

If you are taking a full stim break, which you should on occasion, I would highly recommend looking at High Volume.



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Everything you need there for some serious pump and endurance all in proper doses.

If you are looking for a pre that is still stimmed but simply has no thermo effects you could try out Conqu3r by Olympus Labs

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/olympus-labs-conqu3r-fruit-punch-20-servings.html

 

[FitnessXtrm]

Thanks all for the suggestions. I'm thinking I should take the 4 weeks off of stims since I will be completing almost 8 weeks of Norco. I'll take a look at what you all suggested. Thanks again

 

[Swolbraham]

Nitramine + High Volume = pump city and focus for days. and only 150mg of caffeine per scoop in Nitramine, it's definitely not a "crack" powder so to speak.

 

[kevinhy]

I'm about to finish up Norco before I have to take a 4 week break from therms. I will start on AT2 next week (decided to wait to take after Norco). I also work out early mornings. What pre do you recommend that will give me good energy but allow me to still take it while I'm supposed to be off therms for 4 weeks.

Thanks all!

How long were you on stimulants? You dont "have" to take a stim break after X amount of time.

To follow up, I would recommend something like alphamine taken as needed if you're only looking for energy, simply because its a powder so you can take as little or as much as you need at any given time. Any powder stimulant would suffice in this situation, however I think the alphamine would fit well with your goals since it sounds like you're dieting.

 

[Afi140]

If you want stim free I suggest high volume. Only $22.99 right now. 8 weeks isn't that long and I would personally switch it up to a stimmed pre ( I am a stim junkie) then again.... I haven't had a stim break in 10 months

http://www.islandsupplements.com/athletix-sports-high-volume.html

 

[cubsfan815]

I thought only us Alphamine Addicts would go from 8 weeks norco straight into Alphamine lol.


If you are looking for a MILD stim that still has fat burning properties my favorite is Fitmax. It is a powder as well so you can adjust the dose.

Right now there is a sick price of $18.81 if you buy two.

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/performax-labs/fitmax-50-servings.html

 

[Afi140]

I thought only us Alphamine Addicts would go from 8 weeks norco straight into Alphamine lol. If you are looking for a MILD stim that still has fat burning properties my favorite is Fitmax. It is a powder as well so you can adjust the dose. Right now there is a sick price of $18.81 if you buy two. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/performax-labs/fitmax-50-servings.html

agreed. Fitmax is a nice mild option as well. Hypermax on the other hand that's not so mild but is so wonderful.

 

[abformulations]

I would go with either Alphamine or level II (weird no one ever mentions this, and it's amazing) with some forsk 95

This is a great stack as well
http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/the-alpha-adipose-elimination-stack-alphamine-and-vanillean.html

 

[Afi140]

I thought only us Alphamine Addicts would go from 8 weeks norco straight into Alphamine lol. If you are looking for a MILD stim that still has fat burning properties my favorite is Fitmax. It is a powder as well so you can adjust the dose. Right now there is a sick price of $18.81 if you buy two. http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/performax-labs/fitmax-50-servings.html

agreed. Fitmax is a nice mild option as well. Hypermax on the other hand that's not so mild but is so wonderful.

 

[FitnessXtrm]

How long were you on stimulants? You dont "have" to take a stim break after X amount of time.

To follow up, I would recommend something like alphamine taken as needed if you're only looking for energy, simply because its a powder so you can take as little or as much as you need at any given time. Any powder stimulant would suffice in this situation, however I think the alphamine would fit well with your goals since it sounds like you're dieting.

Thanks for the response. I've always just followed the recommendations on the bottles that after "x" weeks then take "x" weeks off. I guess I never really questioned why and just did it. What would be the reason then? You mentioned I don't "have" to take a break.

In case of Norco I will be nearing 8 weeks soon. I was going to jump into AT2 next but now wonder if I should wait for some weeks then start up Norco again stacked with AT2 (this morning I put a thread asking that question).

I've used original Alphamine way back when. I liked it. I'll look at it again, however perhaps may also look into a milder stim while I come off of Norco.

Thanks again

 

[kevinhy]

Thanks for the response. I've always just followed the recommendations on the bottles that after "x" weeks then take "x" weeks off. I guess I never really questioned why and just did it. What would be the reason then? You mentioned I don't "have" to take a break.

In case of Norco I will be nearing 8 weeks soon. I was going to jump into AT2 next but now wonder if I should wait for some weeks then start up Norco again stacked with AT2 (this morning I put a thread asking that question).

I've used original Alphamine way back when. I liked it. I'll look at it again, however perhaps may also look into a milder stim while I come off of Norco.

Thanks again

Understood. Yeah, it might be a good idea to take a break from caffeine just so you dont develop a strong dependence on it. Personally, I would just use the Alpha-T2 during this off cycle from stimulants, and just drink coffee on an as needed basis when you absolutely need it. Alpha-T2 does provide a bit of caffeine free energy, so it should be enough to get you through everything.

 

[kbayne]

Agree that after 8 weeks of Norcodrene you should take a 4 week break, as well as something like Alphamine.

Alpha-T2 + Forskolin-95 would be my recommendation. Throw in TTA-500 would be solid as well.

 

[FitnessXtrm]

Agree that after 8 weeks of Norcodrene you should take a 4 week break, as well as something like Alphamine.

Alpha-T2 + Forskolin-95 would be my recommendation. Throw in TTA-500 would be solid as well.

Thanks all for the replies!

I have another question as I think I'm confusing myself. I will plan to take the 4 week break after I finish the last few caps of Norco. I see folks recommend to move forward with AT2 afterwards. (I like the suggestion of Forskolin too). Let's say I immediately go with 8 weeks of At2. Can I jump back into Norco afterwards or do I need a 4 week break from everything (ie Norco and AT2)? Hope that made sense.

Thanks again.

 

[haiz69]

Thanks all for the replies!

I have another question as I think I'm confusing myself. I will plan to take the 4 week break after I finish the last few caps of Norco. I see folks recommend to move forward with AT2 afterwards. (I like the suggestion of Forskolin too). Let's say I immediately go with 8 weeks of At2. Can I jump back into Norco afterwards or do I need a 4 week break from everything (ie Norco and AT2)? Hope that made sense.

Thanks again.

You could jump back into Norco at that point.

 

[nattydisaster]

~4 weeks from PES High Volume

in4 Norco-HV Stacks

 

[kbayne]

~4 weeks from PES High Volume

in4 Norco-HV Stacks

Going to be a good Halloween

 

[LiveToLift]

~4 weeks from PES High Volume in4 Norco-HV Stacks

4 weeks from what???
Exciting!

 

[cubsfan815]

Going to be a good Halloween

Candy Corn flavored High Volume?

 

[LiveToLift]

Candy Corn flavored High Volume?

At the guessing game again cubs!

 

[cubsfan815]

At the guessing game again cubs!

Lol just throwing a bunch of crap out, so if I guess right I look like genius.

You know, like a politician

 

[FitnessXtrm]

Lol just throwing a bunch of crap out, so if I guess right I look like genius. You know, like a politician

Haha "genius" and "politician" in the same sentence...now that's funny

 

[T-Bone]

Thanks for the response. I've always just followed the recommendations on the bottles that after "x" weeks then take "x" weeks off. I guess I never really questioned why and just did it. What would be the reason then? You mentioned I don't "have" to take a break.

Here is a thread which goes deeper into the "Stimulant break" break bro-science.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-science/235613-stimulant-break-necessary.html

 

[cubsfan815]

Haha "genius" and "politician" in the same sentence...now that's funny

Lol you sensed my sarcasm

 

[FitnessXtrm]

Here is a thread which goes deeper into the "Stimulant break" break bro-science. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-science/235613-stimulant-break-necessary.html

Awesome thanks!!

 

[blacklac]

Uncut? Keep the Amento going.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

despite any "debate" about whether one should cycle stims, count one vote for the pro-cycle crowd here..

the problem is: there is no steadfast, documented guideline to follow, simply generalities, and two ppl may use the same product quite differently so this really is worthless ... ie, one may work out 6 days/week, dosing a hi-stim product every day except the rest day, and maybe he doses more than recommended amount because he has such high "tolerance" (hmmm, wonder why...) -- while another individual may work out 3x weekly, abide by recommended dosing protocols (or take even less, due to his normal stim tolerance or even stim sensitivity), and only use on his 3 days of training..
should the same "formula" of taking a break, apply to both individuals? certainly not

that said - periodically coming off all stims is certainly the safe way to go, will keep you from becoming dependent on these things, if not physically then at the very least mentally (where you "think" you cannot train without taking some jacked-up preWO product)

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