Strongest Fat Burner (trying to get shredded)

[breakoutyear]

What's up guy! I'm looking for opinions on the strongest fat burner to date that won't completely eat up all my muscle. I'm trying to get shredded for a contest and am looking for a few good suggestions of supplements that you think could really improve my fat burning ability in addition to my high intensity workouts and strict dieting...

I want that really dry look with out having to take a diuretic. I want my muscle still to be full at a very low body fat percentage and not flat and stringy. I appreciate any feedback!

If you can't think of any fat burners then I'd appreciate the opinions on the very best recomping agent to date...or that you've ever used...

 

[Mrbolt84]

Good old ECA Stack, or just EC. Works the best for me

 

[AntM1564]

For a fat burner and dry look, I would probably stack PES Norcodrene with Erase Pro. Norcodrene is a very good fat burner and the Arimistane in EP will give you that hard, dry look.

On the other hand, since you brought A recomping agent up, Alphamax will help with that. Alphamax has a full dose of Forksolin which helps with reocmping effects. It also contains Arimistane, giving you that hard, dry look. Although it is a test booster, if your calories are low enough, it will help you hold onto muscle while dieting. You could also stack Fitmax with Alphamax. Fitmax is a pre workout we carry with fat burning properties.

You could also try Alpahamx + PES Alphamine which seems to be a pretty popular cutting stack or even Alphamax + Norcrodrene.

 

[Mrbolt84]

As for OTC fat burners I would go with something your comfortable with.most are hit or miss. I like alphamine, dexaprine(the old version) and lipo 6 black. But I will most likely Stick to EC most of the time

 

[Mrbolt84]

For a fat burner and dry look, I would probably stack PES Norcodrene with Erase Pro. Norcodrene is a very good fat burner and the Arimistane in EP will give you that hard, dry look.

On the other hand, since you brought A recomping agent up, Alphamax will help with that. Alphamax has a full dose of Forksolin which helps with reocmping effects. It also contains Arimistane, giving you that hard, dry look. Although it is a test booster, if your calories are low enough, it will help you hold onto muscle while dieting. You could also stack Fitmax with Alphamax. Fitmax is a pre workout we carry with fat burning properties.

You could also try Alpahamx + PES Alphamine which seems to be a pretty popular cutting stack or even Alphamax + Norcrodrene.

Alphamax and pes alphamine is a great combo. I ran it with a added 25mgs of forskolin and had great results

 

[AntM1564]

Alphamax and pes alphamine is a great combo. I ran it with a added 25mgs of forskolin and had great results

I've seen that stack posted several times. I might give it a shot on my upcoming mini aggressive cut. I'm still planning it out though. Glad the stack worked well for you!

 

[Misfit28]

DCP 2.0 and Combustion stacked would be an awesome idea.

The DCP 2.0 is also non-stim, so you could stack it with anything.

I like Combustion because of the inclusion of Forskolin, along with the other ingredients in a non-prop blend.

I also like Alphamine, Norcodene and Thermoxyn.

 

[HIT4ME]

Fat burners...where to start?

The number 1 all around fat burner that I have tried and would recommend for over the counter is Norcodrene. Great appetite suppression and it warms you up.

Arimistane should dry you out pretty well. Alphamax has the Arimistane and Forskolin, which both are great fat burners.

Beyond that, there are LOADs of things you could try as additions that could help - most of which have also been mentioned.

DCP, Vanillean, Combustion, Lipomorph, AAV2, Diablo, and Diiodothyronine all come to mind.

 

[Distilled Water]

DCP 2.0 and Combustion stacked would be an awesome idea. The DCP 2.0 is also non-stim, so you could stack it with anything. I like Combustion because of the inclusion of Forskolin, along with the other ingredients in a non-prop blend. I also like Alphamine, Norcodene and Thermoxyn.

I used combustion for my last prep and loved it. I've used DCP2.0 on separate occasion and think they'd stack very well. Add in some SNS TTA (found in og DCP) and that stack would be second to none.

For what it's worth I'm not a BPS rep, just lucky enough to try their sups and really liked them.

I've never used Alphamine but PES is a great company and has a lot of good feed back but for the 1-2 punch for non-stim, the addition of DCP2.0+TTA is a no brainer.

 

[musclemaker]

Fat burners have a lot do with your tolerance level. On the Stronger side there is Hell Fire, Lean -650 and Demon Burn, middle ground there is Epiburn by Usplabs and light level is B4 and Roxylean by Bpi. I would look a the strength of fat burners you have taken in the past and liked and compare them to some of the ones I mentioned as well as other on this thread have. I personally have taken half caps/ half servings before on the stronger ones. Also as far as keeping your muscle goes you need to make sure you are working out still and eating right. Hope this helps and best of luck.

 

[Swolbraham]

give pyroxamine a look, results have been fantastic and it's a pill that provides good clean energy. defintely won't leave you cracked out.

check out an unbiased review: http://www.stack3d.com/2014/08/pyroxamine-review.html

 

[LiveToLift]

A lot of good suggestions here. Alphamine and norcodrene work exceptionally well with very good feedback. Throwing in erase or erase pro and forskolin really spice up the products as well.

 

[kbayne]

Alphamine contains HICA which would help aid in muscle retention during your cut for the competition. Also helps nicely with muscle hardening.

 

[schizm]

I think a great n powerful stack (hereinafter referred to as the 'Wizard of Oz' stack would be: Norco, TTA-500 & F95 (forskolin)

 

[Jiigzz]

If you can tolerate Yohimbine, I would recommend going with that. Yohimbine 2.5 may make you hold water, however it is by far the best OTC fat burner (excluding Ephedrine because its illegal here). Stack with Caffeine and you're golden. If water retention is an issue, OG Erase has good anecdotal feedback it reduces water retention for that dry, hard look.

You could also look into our new Garcinia Cambogia product dropping soon

 

[LiveToLift]

I think a great n powerful stack (hereinafter referred to as the 'Wizard of Oz' stack would be: Norco, TTA-500 & F95 (forskolin)

I like the sound of that wizard of oz stack.

 

[breakoutyear]

Wow!! All these stacks look great! I'm liking the PES Noro & either alphamax, alphamine, or erase pro...Lets say I weren't about to prep for a contest..which one of these stacks would give me the best opportunity to gain a little muscle while at the same time cutting fat?? Basically recomp I guess...

 

[Afi140]

I think a great n powerful stack (hereinafter referred to as the 'Wizard of Oz' stack would be: Norco, TTA-500 & F95 (forskolin)

This. With EBF aav2. Just got lipomorph but won't be using for a few months. Look promising though.

 

[kbayne]

Wow!! All these stacks look great! I'm liking the PES Noro & either alphamax, alphamine, or erase pro...Lets say I weren't about to prep for a contest..which one of these stacks would give me the best opportunity to gain a little muscle while at the same time cutting fat?? Basically recomp I guess...

Norcodrene + Forskolin-95 + Erase Pro or TTA-500.

 

[breakoutyear]

Norcodrene + Forskolin-95 + Erase Pro or TTA-500.

ALrighty then, I'll be giving this a try for certain. Cheers mate!

 

[Jiigzz]

Norcodrene + Forskolin-95 + Erase Pro or TTA-500.

This right here

 

[hewhoisripped]

Whatever you end up picking, I'm sure it will be if it from stacking it with Antaeus Lipomorph. Users have reported outstanding results, and it's not stim based and will stack well with pretty much anything.

 

[saggy321]

Next stack: international Norcodrene, F95, TTA and Lipomorph.

 

[bb333]

I speak from personal experience.

alphamine 3 scoops per day, 2 + 1 (2 prework)
stack with forskolin, 100mg per day, 50 + 50.
nolvadren xt 2 cps at breakfast.

Stop.

definitely will repeat it next spring.
perhaps adding something, not sure what, but I will add something ... always something legal.
ask advice here

ps.
obviously diet, calorie deficit, it's the most important thing to follow.

 

[ma70]

Stim:
PES Norcodrene
PES Alphamine
BPS Combustion (haven't tried it yet, but the profile is awesome)

Non-Stim:
AS Forskolin-95
Antaeus Labs Lipomorph

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

there are so many viable options out there and I personally have tried many of those discussed. there is a few that blow ECA out of the water imo.

 

[AntM1564]

Wow!! All these stacks look great! I'm liking the PES Noro & either alphamax, alphamine, or erase pro...Lets say I weren't about to prep for a contest..which one of these stacks would give me the best opportunity to gain a little muscle while at the same time cutting fat?? Basically recomp I guess...

If you're going to stack F95 + Erase Pro with something like Noro or Alphamaine, I would substitute the F95 + Erase Pro for Alphamax. Those are very good products, but Alphamax is sunning for $28.99/bottle right now and contains a full dose of those two ingredients. I do not know off the top of my head how much Erase Pro and F95 are, but I have seen F95 for around $22-$26/bottle; almost the cost of Alpahamax. Alphamax will lean you out with the F95, dry you out with the Arimistane, help you sleep (recovery) with the ZMA and L-Dopa, and will increase free test. Judging by your goals, it sounds like Alphamax + Noro or Alphamine would be your best bet.

 

[kbayne]

If you're going to stack F95 + Erase Pro with something like Noro or Alphamaine, I would substitute the F95 + Erase Pro for Alphamax. Those are very good products, but Alphamax is sunning for $28.99/bottle right now and contains a full dose of those two ingredients. I do not know off the top of my head how much Erase Pro and F95 are, but I have seen F95 for around $22-$26/bottle; almost the cost of Alpahamax. Alphamax will lean you out with the F95, dry you out with the Arimistane, help you sleep (recovery) with the ZMA and L-Dopa, and will increase free test. Judging by your goals, it sounds like Alphamax + Noro or Alphamine would be your best bet.

Erase Pro doesn't contain Arimistane.

 

[breakoutyear]

Norcodrene + Forskolin-95 + Erase Pro or TTA-500.

Would recompadrol be a nice addition to this stack as well? Or would it be unnecessary? Any one have any significant results with GDA like recompadrol or no?

 

[Afi140]

Would recompadrol be a nice addition to this stack as well? Or would it be unnecessary? Any one have any significant results with GDA like recompadrol or no?

I enjoyed recompadrol. Nice results with aav2, forskolin, and norcodrene

 

[kbayne]

Would recompadrol be a nice addition to this stack as well? Or would it be unnecessary? Any one have any significant results with GDA like recompadrol or no?

If you want a GDA, Recompadrol is one of the best out/if not the best.

 

[TeamTGB]

A sick thermogenic stack i just finished Iron Forged Nutrition Synthermo, DS Lean xtreme and Antaeus Lipomorph. When i started the stack i stayed the same weight wise but continued to get tighter over the 8 weeks i ran it

 

[AntM1564]

Erase Pro doesn't contain Arimistane.

Never said it did. Just simply said both products would ive him that dry look.

 

[breakoutyear]

I enjoyed recompadrol. Nice results with aav2, forskolin, and norcodrene

So I'm planning to stack noro, erase pro, and forskolin95 with ArA. Would it be worth the money to invest in Recompadrol and I guess what I'm asking is what is the purpose for a GDA anyway? What's its main purpose and does it fulfill its responsibilities?

 

[Afi140]

So I'm planning to stack noro, erase pro, and forskolin95 with ArA. Would it be worth the money to invest in Recompadrol and I guess what I'm asking is what is the purpose for a GDA anyway? What's its main purpose and does it fulfill its responsibilities?

glucose disposal agent. Allows you to eat a decent amount of carbs with minimal effect on blood sugar. If money isn't an issue I would add it. You have a lot going on though so maybe add things slowly.

 

[kbayne]

So I'm planning to stack noro, erase pro, and forskolin95 with ArA. Would it be worth the money to invest in Recompadrol and I guess what I'm asking is what is the purpose for a GDA anyway? What's its main purpose and does it fulfill its responsibilities?

The stack you have is very nice. I would only add Recompadrol if you have a good amount of carbs in your diet or for damage control/cheat meals.

 

[JudoJosh]

Thanks for all the PES/Analyzed support and love guys!

 

[breakoutyear]

The stack you have is very nice. I would only add Recompadrol if you have a good amount of carbs in your diet or for damage control/cheat meals.

Ok cool, I think I may add it later if at all...thanks guys!

 

[nattydisaster]

The combination of an AI with a thermogenic has long been popular with the people-in-the-know.

Erase/Erase Pro + Norcodrene/Alphamine...two stacks we always recommend.

Using Erase Pro in conjunction with Norcodrene for instance bring multiple leaning and physique-altering properties. A thermogenic like Norcodrene will target the stubborn fat, the appetite, and of course, help release fat with the SA2-A. The AI will help dry and harden, assisting with your overall appearance

 

[breakoutyear]

The combination of an AI with a thermogenic has long been popular with the people-in-the-know.

Erase/Erase Pro + Norcodrene/Alphamine...two stacks we always recommend.

Using Erase Pro in conjunction with Norcodrene for instance bring multiple leaning and physique-altering properties. A thermogenic like Norcodrene will target the stubborn fat, the appetite, and of course, help release fat with the SA2-A. The AI will help dry and harden, assisting with your overall appearance

Yea, this is the stack I'm planning for certain(Erase Pro & PES Noro)...and I'm thinking if I add ArA and Anabeta Elite as well I could really add some decent lean mass while cutting fat

 

[cdnbum88]

Yea, this is the stack I'm planning for certain(Erase Pro & PES Noro)...and I'm thinking if I add ArA and Anabeta Elite as well I could really add some decent lean mass while cutting fat

I thought it was a challenge to do a cut and a build at the same time to be really effective? I know you always want lean mass but isn't it difficult to combine both? Just curious.

 

[AntM1564]

I thought it was a challenge to do a cut and a build at the same time to be really effective? I know you always want lean mass but isn't it difficult to combine both? Just curious.

You cannot do both, unless on gear. One can minimize fat gain during a bulk (small surplus) that will result in less fat gain over the same period of time a large surplus would. During a cut, the goal is to minimize muscle loss, muscle retention while losing fat is the goal. That can be done with proper dieting, some supplements, cardio if needed. A small surplus helps, but makes for a longer cut.

To make it simple, one needs more cals to gain muscle and less cals to lose fat. Minimizing fat gain/muscle loss is possible though.

 

[breakoutyear]

You cannot do both, unless on gear. One can minimize fat gain during a bulk (small surplus) that will result in less fat gain over the same period of time a large surplus would. During a cut, the goal is to minimize muscle loss, muscle retention while losing fat is the goal. That can be done with proper dieting, some supplements, cardio if needed. A small surplus helps, but makes for a longer cut.

To make it simple, one needs more cals to gain muscle and less cals to lose fat. Minimizing fat gain/muscle loss is possible though.

I guess I meant keep some lean muscle instead of gain, while cutting fat...

 

[AntM1564]

I guess I meant keep some lean muscle instead of gain, while cutting fat...

It i absolutely possible to keep lean mass while dieting. A solid diet, training routine, cardio routine if needed, rest, and supplementation will all help. I also think it is beneficial to not have to diet for an extended period of time.

 

[thebigt]

Fat burners have a lot do with your tolerance level. On the Stronger side there is Hell Fire, Lean -650 and Demon Burn, middle ground there is Epiburn by Usplabs and light level is B4 and Roxylean by Bpi. I would look a the strength of fat burners you have taken in the past and liked and compare them to some of the ones I mentioned as well as other on this thread have. I personally have taken half caps/ half servings before on the stronger ones. Also as far as keeping your muscle goes you need to make sure you are working out still and eating right. Hope this helps and best of luck.

you left out out white lightning w/dmaa by aps....

you guys are carrying legit 1,3 dime products, correct?

 

[JudgementDay]

Just tried a sample of Core Burns, it's the strongest effects I've felt since my first ECA run. Def a good choice based on the ingredient profile.

you left out out white lightning w/dmaa by aps....

The good old days! That was good stuff, I remember the phenadrine was sick too.

 

[Glockguy706]

there are so many viable options out there and I personally have tried many of those discussed. there is a few that blow ECA out of the water imo.

What blows ECA out of the water ? Really interested ECA and phentermine are about the only things that work for me and since both are illicit in the US I would like to know

 

[xR1pp3Rx]

i havnt been keeping up with the fat burners as much these days.. dont even know whats on the current market.

back a few yrs ago and more, there were products like OeP and Redline HC plus many off brand heavy hitters.

While ECA works, its hardly what i would consider a top tier fat burner these days. high tech has a clone of OeP called lipodrene. i havnt used it, but if its a clone of the OG, it will tear the fat right outta u

 

[Glockguy706]

Thanks . I do like hi tech

 

[Ricky10]

Truth be told, HydroxyElite is nothing like OG USPLabs OxyElite Pro.