anti hair loss shampoos

[rhoadx]

anyone suggestions on a good one and where it can be purchased?

 

[Athletix]

The OTC shampoo called "Nizoral" has an ingredient known as ketoconazole which is a topical anti-androgen.
If i recall correctly it has some research supporting its use as an anti-hairloss product, and it gets a wealth of positive feedback from what I see.

 

[Shin Sprints]

If using Nizoral don't use this as your daily shampoo...2-3 times a week is all it should be used for.

 

[mr.cooper69]

If using Nizoral don't use this as your daily shampoo...2-3 times a week is all it should be used for.

It can be used daily as long as you use a high-end conditioner after each application. I mix 2% ketoconazole + 3% salicyclic acid (T/Sal neutrogena) in my hand and apply, followed by conditioner a little later

 

[Jiigzz]

The OTC shampoo called "Nizoral" has an ingredient known as ketoconazole which is a topical anti-androgen.
If i recall correctly it has some research supporting its use as an anti-hairloss product, and it gets a wealth of positive feedback from what I see.

Nizoral gets my vote

 

[kissdadookie]

If using Nizoral don't use this as your daily shampoo...2-3 times a week is all it should be used for.

Every other day for me. Just one application on the days I use it. I shampoo with it first, massage it in real nice, leave it in whilst I wash everything else, then wash my face and rinse it off along with rinsing my face, apply conditioner and massage that in for a bit, rinse and done.

 

[huxley309]

Not sure if you guys can get it, but alpecin is very popular over here.

 

[Warthog13]

Not sure if you guys can get it, but alpecin is very popular over here.

Where's 'here'? I tried looking at your info but didn't see that listed. Thanks.

 

[huxley309]

Where's 'here'? I tried looking at your info but didn't see that listed. Thanks.

Uk, it's a German caffeine shampoo that's proving to be very good.

 

[abformulations]

N2 shampoo is good

 

[ELROCK]

N2 shampoo is good

^^^I second this. I have been using N2 shampoo for close to a year now. It has completely stop hair shedding and added thickness. It will not make you re-grow new, but allows you to keep what you have.

 

[ericool007]

Did they discontinue n2 shampoo i feel like its been sold out for the last 2 years.
Anyways regenepure dr is a good choice for a keto shampoo that wont fry ur hair.

 

[ELROCK]

Did they discontinue n2 shampoo i feel like its been sold out for the last 2 years.
Anyways regenepure dr is a good choice for a keto shampoo that wont fry ur hair.

I'm not really sure if N2 shampoo has been discontinued or not. I still have like ten bottles of it. I seems to last forever and I use it everyday.

 

[mr.cooper69]

I used n2 shampoo for a whole bottle, which is saying a lot because it lasted over 6 months. Smells great and is a great overall shampoo that I'd use regularly just for hair health, but it seems to have zero effect on hair loss or gain. Rather, it just moistens and thickens it up from a perception standpoint

 

[ELROCK]

I used n2 shampoo for a whole bottle, which is saying a lot because it lasted over 6 months. Smells great and is a great overall shampoo that I'd use regularly just for hair health, but it seems to have zero effect on hair loss or gain. Rather, it just moistens and thickens it up from a perception standpoint

My experience:

Before I started the N2 shampoo, I was seeing hair on my pillows and hair falling out in the shower on a daily basis. I have had zero hair shedding since after the first months use of the shampoo. I am happy with it hence why I stocked up on the product.

 

[kissdadookie]

My experience:

Before I started the N2 shampoo, I was seeing hair on my pillows and hair falling out in the shower on a daily basis. I have had zero hair shedding since after the first months use of the shampoo. I am happy with it hence why I stocked up on the product.

Did you just have bad conditioning with your hair? Shedding could be due to the hair actually falling out from the roots OR it could be just a lot of hair breakage due to improper care.

 

[ELROCK]

Did you just have bad conditioning with your hair? Shedding could be due to the hair actually falling out from the roots OR it could be just a lot of hair breakage due to improper care.

That is true, but not in my case.
It wasnt hair breakage, it was full hair stans down to the root. I have always had good hair hygiene as it is important to me.

 

[kissdadookie]

That is true, but not in my case.
It wasnt hair breakage, it was full hair stans down to the root. I have always had good hair hygiene as it is important to me.

Gotcha.

 

[mr.cooper69]

My experience:

Before I started the N2 shampoo, I was seeing hair on my pillows and hair falling out in the shower on a daily basis. I have had zero hair shedding since after the first months use of the shampoo. I am happy with it hence why I stocked up on the product.

tough to draw cause and effect. Why? Hairs that are due to follow out undergo biomolecular changes 3-6 months prior to when they fall. So if n2 shampoo starts working, you shouldn't notice effects this profound until 12 weeks minimum, as with any​ hair loss treatment

 

[ELROCK]

tough to draw cause and effect. Why? Hairs that are due to follow out undergo biomolecular changes 3-6 months prior to when they fall. So if n2 shampoo starts working, you shouldn't notice effects this profound until 12 weeks minimum, as with any hair loss treatment

Maybe so Coop, but it has worked for me so I continue to use it.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Maybe so Coop, but it has worked for me so I continue to use it.

That's fair, all I'm saying is to consider any other lifestyle changes you made in the months prior and continue those as well

 

[Austin118]

Revivogen bro! I lost all my hair on my scalp due to alopecia and had high DHT! Grew my hair back it's legit! Although my hair isn't as thick as it once was, I credit this shampoo for saving my hair! There's also alpecin which is a German shampoo not sure if it's available in the states but try and get that it's meant to fight hair loss

 

[Quadzilla99]

Here some posts I made about Ketoconazole shampoo in another forum that I'm copying here (Keto is the active ingredient in Nizoral):

Here's a collection of all the Nizoral studies I could find. Figured this would be good to have in one place:

1%:

Reduces shedding and makes hair thicker:

Nudging hair shedding by antidandruff shamp... [Int J Cosmet Sci. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI

Effetti di uno shampoo al ketoconazolo sulla calvizie androgenetica

2%:

Almost as effective as 2% minox:

Ketoconazole shampoo: effect of long-term use in... [Dermatology. 1998] - PubMed - NCBI

(Niz + Propecia more effective than Propecia alone):

Comparative efficacy of various treatment regimen... [J Dermatol. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI

21 month study with graph (best results seen from months 6-15):

2% Nizoral Shampoo Increases Hair Growth in Men with Male Pattern Baldness

Small Japanese 2% cream study with before/after photos of two subjects:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_entry-id-25116-page-0-category-0-order-last_answer.html

Scientists shaved mice repeatedly and applied either ketoconazole or a vehicle solution to their skin and the mice who received ketoconazole repeatedly demonstrated "a macroscopically significant stimulatory effect". In other words their hair grew like crazy.

Topical application of ketoconazole stimulates ha... [J Dermatol. 2005] - PubMed - NCBI

Others:

Ketocazole as an adjunct to finasteride in th... [Med Hypotheses. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI

Oral ketoconazole is such a potent anti-androgen its basically castration in a bottle:

Effect of ketoconazole and other imidazole fungicides on testosterone biosynthesis

Low-dose ketoconazole treatment in hirsu... [J Endocrinol Invest. 1990] - PubMed - NCBI

[Efficacy of low dose ketoconazole th... [Zhonghua Yi Xue Za Zhi. 2012] - PubMed - NCBI

[The effect of nizoral on the function of the hyp... [Lik Sprava. 1992] - PubMed - NCBI

It doesn't get absorbed enough from topical application to do any of that though:

Clinical pharmacokinetics of ketoconazole. [Clin Pharmacokinet. 1988] - PubMed - NCBI

and yet another early study on topical keto (det I can't find right now) showed that serum levels of ketoconazole were virtually undetectable even when they used large doses

 

[Quadzilla99]

moar nizo/keto info so we can have it all in one place:


Sebizole by Douglas Pharmaceuticals is a cheaper ketoconazole shampoo than Nizoral. this Douglas Pharmaceuticals is about as legit as it gets...had sales of $145 mill last year and makes all kind of prescription drugs. They're the biggest pharma company in New Zealand which isn't exactly a backwards country (per capita income $28,850). The guy who started it was even knighted:


From community chemist to manufacturer | Stuff.co.nz


They were recently approved to sell prescription drugs in U.S. by the FDA:


Douglas Pharmaceutical gets US approval for acne medication | The National Business Review


Douglas Pharmaceuticals Appoints Deutsche Bank for Possible Sale - Deal Journal Australia - WSJ


The U.S. consumes half the world's prescription drugs (srsly) so everyone wants to get in on this market but companies have a hard time doing so apparently because regulation is strict here.


If you buy from this website 3 bottles comes to $63 for 600 ml of 2% ketoconazole shampoo including shipping (free over $50):


Sebizole Shampoo 2% (200ml) | Dandruff Treatment | Dry Itchy Scalp | Anti-dandruff Cream | Hair & Scalp Care | Best Price Online From - PharmacyExpress


Whereas Niz is selling for $20 per 100 ml atm if you can even get it as availability is limited atm (Nizoral?)

and then another later post:

Giggity!

They sent me 6 bottles! I checked my bank account and it still says I was charged $63 so 1200 ml of keto shampoo for $63! Thats ~ 5 bucks per 100 ml.

 

[Quadzilla99]

A thing to note with hair loss is its cyclical in a lot or most people. SO you lose some then it stops for a while then it starts again. Because of this its very susceptible. Someone goes on biotin or b vitamins or something and then it happens to coincide with a phase where their hair loss stop and they attribute it to the b vitamins because of this I tend to try to rely on studies more than anecdote.

 

[ericool007]

Look into grape seed extract(300mg 2x a day) and its effect on hair loss too its IMO the best supplement out there for hair loss-growth.
MSM seems to help too in 3 gram+ dosages taken wit Vit C.
biotin and Biosil(silica) wont hurt either even though biotin is highly overrated as a hair growth supp.

Regenepure DR and NT are my fav shampoos
Millcreek Biotin shampoo is another good natural shampoo to alternate with the Keto
Tricomin conditioning shampoo is the best from an aesthetic point of view i found.

 

[Joshlm69]

Just bought some Niz and Grape seed extract, cheers boys

 

[ELROCK]

moar nizo/keto info so we can have it all in one place:

Sebizole by Douglas Pharmaceuticals is a cheaper ketoconazole shampoo than Nizoral. this Douglas Pharmaceuticals is about as legit as it gets...had sales of $145 mill last year and makes all kind of prescription drugs. They're the biggest pharma company in New Zealand which isn't exactly a backwards country (per capita income $28,850). The guy who started it was even knighted:

From community chemist to manufacturer | Stuff.co.nz

They were recently approved to sell prescription drugs in U.S. by the FDA:

Douglas Pharmaceutical gets US approval for acne medication | The National Business Review

Douglas Pharmaceuticals Appoints Deutsche Bank for Possible Sale - Deal Journal Australia - WSJ

The U.S. consumes half the world's prescription drugs (srsly) so everyone wants to get in on this market but companies have a hard time doing so apparently because regulation is strict here.

If you buy from this website 3 bottles comes to $63 for 600 ml of 2% ketoconazole shampoo including shipping (free over $50):

Sebizole Shampoo 2% (200ml) | Dandruff Treatment | Dry Itchy Scalp | Anti-dandruff Cream | Hair & Scalp Care | Best Price Online From - PharmacyExpress

Whereas Niz is selling for $20 per 100 ml atm if you can even get it as availability is limited atm (Nizoral?)

and then another later post:

Giggity!

They sent me 6 bottles! I checked my bank account and it still says I was charged $63 so 1200 ml of keto shampoo for $63! Thats ~ 5 bucks per 100 ml.

Thanks for sharing bro!

 

[ELROCK]

Look into grape seed extract(300mg 2x a day) and its effect on hair loss too its IMO the best supplement out there for hair loss-growth.
MSM seems to help too in 3 gram+ dosages taken wit Vit C.
biotin and Biosil(silica) wont hurt either even though biotin is highly overrated as a hair growth supp.

Regenepure DR and NT are my fav shampoos
Millcreek Biotin shampoo is another good natural shampoo to alternate with the Keto
Tricomin conditioning shampoo is the best from an aesthetic point of view i found.

Stinging Nettle is also good hair supp to add into the mix.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Look into grape seed extract(300mg 2x a day) and its effect on hair loss too its IMO the best supplement out there for hair loss-growth.
MSM seems to help too in 3 gram+ dosages taken wit Vit C.
biotin and Biosil(silica) wont hurt either even though biotin is highly overrated as a hair growth supp.

Regenepure DR and NT are my fav shampoos
Millcreek Biotin shampoo is another good natural shampoo to alternate with the Keto
Tricomin conditioning shampoo is the best from an aesthetic point of view i found.

Do you have the GSE study on hand? I'd like to see what is being extracted

 

[Joshlm69]

Can Keto cause ED like minoxil can (rogaine)???? If it can; which the internet seems to suggest , you guys shouldn't be suggesting it to other members.

 

[pimppapa1977]

Was readn Rogaine causes limp dick..been on it forever..I get too many boners maybe I should up my dose lol

 

[Quadzilla99]

Can Keto cause ED like minoxil can (rogaine)???? If it can; which the internet seems to suggest , you guys shouldn't be suggesting it to other members.

If you read my posts above I linked a study that says it doesn't get absorbed systemically meaning it doesn't get into your bloodstream just into your scalp.

 

[Joshlm69]

If you read my posts above I linked a study that says it doesn't get absorbed systemically meaning it doesn't get into your bloodstream just into your scalp.

That's exactly what was said about rogaine, because it's "topical"

 

[Quadzilla99]

I been on the stuff well over 10 years heard about it when Michael Mooney first talked about in Muscle Media 2000 and read a **** load about it and I myself and almost no one I've ever read about has gotten ED from it. I'm willing to bet you just googled nizoral+ED and then got your confirmation bias fix.

 

[Joshlm69]

I been on the stuff well over 10 years heard about it when Michael Mooney first talked about in Muscle Media 2000 and read a **** load about it and I myself and almost no one I've ever read about has gotten ED from it. I'm willing to bet you just googled nizoral+ED and then got your confirmation bias fix.

see PM, thanks

 

[Quadzilla99]

Just noticed that the link I posted for sebizole was dead above...here's another good site: http://www.topbrandsforless.com/sebizole_shampoo_2_pc_200ml.html

One more nizoral study: http://www.jdsjournal.com/article/S0923-1811(06)00249-0/fulltext

 

[ericool007]

Do you have the GSE study on hand? I'd like to see what is being extracted

http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v112/n3/full/5600429a.html

 

[Joshlm69]

This stuff has made my hair go back to how I was when I was 16, I recommend everyone getting Nizoral 2%. Just make sure you spend $30 or so on a decent conditioner as it really dries your hair out

Can't believe how well it works for $10

 

[abformulations]

This stuff has made my hair go back to how I was when I was 16, I recommend everyone getting Nizoral 2%. Just make sure you spend $30 or so on a decent conditioner as it really dries your hair out Can't believe how well it works for $10

You applied conditioner right after shampooing? Or the next day? I would assume conditioning will diminish the effects of the shampoo? I could be wrong.

You shampooed eod?

 

[RipdnTxs]

Ive tried most all of these shampoos, Rogain, Propecia and still lost most all of my hair in the front and the crown. I fought this for a long time and finally gave up and shave my head and lucky for me, I apparently have the head for it. This is the first year I have ever went out without a cap on(recently divorced ) and have had nothing but compliments from women about how it looks. I still wish I had a full head of hair, but I never have a bad hair day here and no maintenance is nice to not have to bother with. I wish U guys the best of luck on this !!!

 

[Joshlm69]

You applied conditioner right after shampooing? Or the next day? I would assume conditioning will diminish the effects of the shampoo? I could be wrong.

You shampooed eod?

Shampoo EOD, leave on for 2-3mins, then condition immediately after for 2-3mins

 

[Joshlm69]

You applied conditioner right after shampooing? Or the next day? I would assume conditioning will diminish the effects of the shampoo? I could be wrong. You shampooed eod?

All conditioning does is soften your hair etc, has no effect on the Nizoral , first hand experience

 

[abformulations]

Thanks buddy

 

[LeanEngineer]

My moms dad was going bald in high school so i knew i had to take precautions early. But i forget what kind she gets but if it tingles on your head then its the kind i have. haha. The first time i used it, it freaked me out. Also supplementing iron, zinc, vitamin D, and b-complex as well as some fish oil will only be beneficial for hair loss. Plus all those vitamins i listed are essential in my opinion even if your not trying to prevent hair loss.

 

[Joshlm69]

I have 2000mg vitamin C and 5000 iU vitamin D a day, definitely helps

 

[Joshlm69]

Day 1 Nizoral 3mins on, rinse off, conditioner 3mins on rinse off
Day 2 Normal semi expensive shampoo, conditioner 3mins on rinse off

Repeat Day 1-2 indefinitely, keeps your hair not turning to straw

A month ago you used to be able to see my scalp pretty clearly, now, my hair is pretty damn thick