how should I dose arimistane?

[mar1n93]

So I want to start an AI solo tomorrow. .
Eliminate by olympus labs
25mg of arimistane per capsule
The bottle says to take 3 pills pero day but not more then 4... should I follow what the bottle says or is there another type a dose more effective? ? Also, it says not more then 4 weeks but if I take 2 caps a day it will be more then 4 weeks.. please help thanks bros

 

[reps4jesus]

150mg a day is my fav

 

[abformulations]

I always used 100 mg never went passed it.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

I like 50-75 a day

 

[SweetLou321]

150mg a day is my fav

Srs?

 

[abformulations]

Srs?

He's a nut lol

 

[reps4jesus]

Srs?

Yes. And **** you halfhuman ! Lol people commonly dose it at 150-200mg. I like 150 though.

 

[abformulations]

Yes. And **** you halfhuman ! Lol people commonly dose it at 150-200mg. I like 150 though.

Lol! I love you too

200mg? Jesus!

 

[AntM1564]

75mg/day. If your joints can handle it, you could bump it up.

 

[mar1n93]

Thanks guys...
I think I'll go with 75mg/day and see how that goes...

 

[abformulations]

Thanks guys... I think I'll go with 75mg/day and see how that goes...

Good starting point. You can start at 50mg too.

 

[Hockeyaus33]

Is a gyno rebound from arimistane stand alone possible? Just curious...

Doesn't seem like its scientifically possible since arimistane is a suicide AI.

 

[reps4jesus]

Is a gyno rebound from arimistane stand alone possible? Just curious...

Haha I wouldn't worry about it, mainly because it doesn't actually lower estrogen.

 

[reps4jesus]

Lol! I love you too

200mg? Jesus!

You make it sound like letro lmao it's ****ing arimistane. Barely does anything except lower cortisol which reduce Xt does better.

 

[Hockeyaus33]

Reps4jesus,please explain lol.. thought armistanes only purpose is to lower estrogen?...

 

[abformulations]

You make it sound like letro lmao it's ****ing arimistane. Barely does anything except lower cortisol which reduce Xt does better.

I ran it plenty of times and 75mg can give dry joints. So I can imagine 150-200 lol

As a matter fact a lot of people complain about dry joints on 50mg as well. Just going by experience and what others complain about too.

Also it lowers estro mainly and cortisol slightly.

If I'm wrong correct me sir

 

[mar1n93]

What do ypu guys recommend for dry joints? ?

I see some of you think it doesn't work..why is that??

 

[SwolenONE]

50-75mg a day leans and dries me out nicely. Any more and I get joint pain.

 

[mar1n93]

Should I take all pills at once or should I devide them throughout the day??

 

[AntM1564]

I would spit it. If you're taking 3 daily, I would do one every 4-6 hours. I don't know the half life, or if there is one. Personally, I like to keep things dosed evenly when there are multiple servings through the day.

 

[Contaygious]

Why take solo? I use cissus for joints.

Throw in ep1c and osta or something homie!

 

[mar1n93]

I've never used any ph or aas bro...
I'm 21 and it really took me a couple months to decide whether to take an AI solo to see if my estrogen levels went down to reduce some fat and look a lil dryer..

 

[reps4jesus]

I ran it plenty of times and 75mg can give dry joints. So I can imagine 150-200 lol

As a matter fact a lot of people complain about dry joints on 50mg as well. Just going by experience and what others complain about too.

Also it lowers estro mainly and cortisol slightly.

If I'm wrong correct me sir

Show me the labs that show it lowers e2.

 

[reps4jesus]

The term suicidal Ai doesn't have anything to do with the amount of estrogen reduction it causes.
Its a term thats used to describe the pharmacokinetics of the ingredient.
So people see its a suicidal AI and assume its effective, but again, show me the labs. Because I haven't seen it yet.

 

[Contaygious]

Ep1c is all natural. I'm not talking about pH or aas. Also x factor is good. I'd do those before an ai. Even tropinol xp

 

[Piston Honda]

Ep1c is all natural. I'm not talking about pH or aas. Also x factor is good. I'd do those before an ai. Even tropinol xp

Totally irrelevant to topic

 

[LimmetLess]

Ep1c is all natural. I'm not talking about pH or aas. Also x factor is good. I'd do those before an ai. Even tropinol xp

Oh ok.

 

[tred0003]

Will 50 mg a day of Armistane reduce a gyno lump? Adex will usually reduce it but the sides are very hard for me to handle. Sorry if off topic.

 

[Quads_of_Stee]

Will 50 mg a day of Armistane reduce a gyno lump? Adex will usually reduce it but the sides are very hard for me to handle. Sorry if off topic.

not really

 

[EatMoar]

Will 50 mg a day of Armistane reduce a gyno lump? Adex will usually reduce it but the sides are very hard for me to handle. Sorry if off topic.

Hell no. Letro it up.

 

[Grayson]

Meh. Formestane kicks the living crap out of arimy.

 

[haiz69]

Will 50 mg a day of Armistane reduce a gyno lump? Adex will usually reduce it but the sides are very hard for me to handle. Sorry if off topic.

Treatment of gynecomastia with tamoxifen: a double-blind crossover study.

Parker LN, Gray DR, Lai MK, Levin ER.
Abstract

Benign asymptomatic or painful enlargement of the male breast is a common problem, postulated to be due to an increased estrogen/testosterone ration or due to increased estrogenic or decreased androgenic stimulation via estrogen or androgen receptor interactions. Treatment at present consists of analgesic medication or surgery. However, treatment directed against the preponderance of estrogenic stimulation would seem to represent a more specific form of therapy. In the present double-blind crossover study, one-month courses of a placebo or the antiestrogen tamoxifen (10 mg given orally bid) were compared in random order. Seven of ten patients experienced a decrease in the size of their gynecomastia due to tamoxifen (P less than 0.005). Overall, the decrease for gynecomastia for the whole group was significant (P less than 0.01). There was no beneficial effect of placebo (P greater than 0.1). Additionally, all four patients with painful gynecomastia experienced symptomatic relief. There was no toxicity. The reduction of breast size was partial and may indicate the need for a longer course of therapy. A followup examination was performed in eight out of ten patients nine months to one year after discontinuing placebo and tamoxifen. There were no significant changes from the end of the initial study period except for one tamoxifen responder who developed a recurrence of breast tenderness after six months, and one nonresponder who demonstrated an increase in breast size and a new onset of tenderness after ten months. Therefore, antiestrogenic treatment with tamoxifen may represent a safe and effective mode of treatment for selected cases of cosmetically disturbing or painful gynecomastia.



Beneficial effects of raloxifene and tamoxifen in the treatment of pubertal gynecomastia.

Lawrence SE1, Faught KA, Vethamuthu J, Lawson ML.
Author information



Abstract

OBJECTIVES:

To assess the efficacy of the anti-estrogens tamoxifen and raloxifen in the medical management of persistent pubertal gynecomastia.
STUDY DESIGN:

Retrospective chart review of 38 consecutive patients with persistent pubertal gynecomastia who presented to a pediatric endocrinology clinic. Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene).
RESULTS:

Mean (SD) age of treated subjects was 14.6 (1.5) years with gynecomastia duration of 28.3 (16.4) months. Mean reduction in breast nodule diameter was 2.1 cm (95% CI 1.7, 2.7, P <.0001) after treatment with tamoxifen and 2.5 cm (95% CI 1.7, 3.3, P <.0001) with raloxifene. Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients.
CONCLUSION:

Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.


[h=1]The role of tamoxifen in the management of gynaecomastia.[/h]Hanavadi S1, Banerjee D, Monypenny IJ, Mansel RE.
[h=3]Author information[/h]

[h=3]Abstract[/h]Gynaecomastia affects half of the male population at some stage in their life. Only a small proportion of them would require treatment for cosmetic appearance or to relieve pain and tenderness. Recently, tamoxifen has shown some promising results in the management of gynaecomastia. To assess the efficacy of tamoxifen, we carried out a retrospective study of all men treated for gynaecomastia with particular emphasis on those treated medically. Men with painful gynaecomastia were given 10 mg of tamoxifen for 3 months. Response to treatment was categorised as good, moderate and no response. Thirteen men (median age 36) were placed on tamoxifen. Ten patients responded well to tamoxifen. One patient developed calf tenderness and stopped the medication. No other adverse effects were reported. Two patients could not be followed up. Tamoxifen appears safe and effective in men with painful idiopathic or physiological gynaecomastia and should be considered as an initial option before contemplating surgery.

 

[throneof]

I want to do a forskolin 95/arimistane stack. Has anyone ran this combo? Should I not use arimistane without a test booster like DAA? As I understand it, arimistane is a test booster itself, right?

 

[abformulations]

I want to do a forskolin 95/arimistane stack. Has anyone ran this combo? Should I not use arimistane without a test booster like DAA? As I understand it, arimistane is a test booster itself, right?

J
Just use Alphamax and add some extra fork 95 if you want

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/performax-labs-alphamax-120-caps.html

 

[throneof]

I don't want a 75 mg dose of arimistane. Last time I did that it wrecked my knee. I was thinking a 25 mg dose this time with the forskolin, which I really enjoyed.

 

[haiz69]

I don't want a 75 mg dose of arimistane. Last time I did that it wrecked my knee. I was thinking a 25 mg dose this time with the forskolin, which I really enjoyed.

You could always work the dose of Alphamax up and still enjoy the benefits of the other ingredients. I still believe this to be more cost effective than buy the two separately. Alphamax can be found for 28.99. Add a bottle of forskolin to that and you have endless dosing possibilities.

 

[abformulations]

I don't want a 75 mg dose of arimistane. Last time I did that it wrecked my knee. I was thinking a 25 mg dose this time with the forskolin, which I really enjoyed.

25mg is nothing. For that don't use it

 

[throneof]

^ This times a million! I was a huge fan of Arimistane, did several cycles if Erase Pro. I said was because I tried Formestane this summer and fell in love. No more drop in libido, no more creaky joints, Formestane is the way to go for me.

Really? Those were actually my issues with arimistane: dropped libido and painful knees. It did deliver a dry, vascular physique, but it was not worth the sides IMO. I may have to look into this formestane you speak of. I'm just going to go w/ F95 and arimistane for now. I'm going to start at 25m mg for the arimistane and maybe bump it to 50 if results do not show

 

[throneof]

25mg is nothing. For that don't use it

I don't believe that 25 mg will have zero impact on estrogen and drying me out a bit. I only weigh 190 btw

 

[abformulations]

I don't believe that 25 mg will have zero impact on estrogen and drying me out a bit. I only weigh 190 btw

Arim hardly has any effect on estro and 25mg is to low. 50mg is the lowest I would ever go. Anything below is a waste IMO

 

[throneof]

Yeah man, no lie. So my first cycle of EPro, I noticed reduced libido within the first two weeks. I was dosing everyday, so I switched to an EOD dosing scheme. It improved libido, but then I started to halt progress on the drying properties of Arimistane. And at about week 4 of an 8-week cycle, my left shoulder really started to get creaky. I started warming up more and doubling up on my fish oils, but that improved the creaminess minimally. And then once I finished my cycle, I felt like I added 2-3 lbs of water weight within the first week once I discontinued the product. Basically the next two cycles continued like this, decent results, but the sides and temporary nature of the results frustrated me. Enter Formestane. I started with 4 pumps a day, and ran that for an entire 8-week cycle. I never once felt dried out and creaky. I noticed gains, leaned out a ton, but never felt a drop in libido. In fact, I got much hornier. And once I discontinued, I don't feel like I puffed up with water as bad as I did with Arimistane. So point being, I just purchased another bottle of Formestane. I'll run it for an additional 8 weeks and I'll be creating a log tomorrow to record my gains.

Looked up formestane and it seems solid. It being slightly suppressive at high doses turns me off a bit though. Do you run it w a test booster or solo?

 

[Piston Honda]

Looked up formestane and it seems solid. It being slightly suppressive at high doses turns me off a bit though. Do you run it w a test booster or solo?

If you're using 300mg + , then you might worry about suppression.

 

[throneof]

Yeah man, no lie. So my first cycle of EPro, I noticed reduced libido within the first two weeks. I was dosing everyday, so I switched to an EOD dosing scheme. It improved libido, but then I started to halt progress on the drying properties of Arimistane. And at about week 4 of an 8-week cycle, my left shoulder really started to get creaky. I started warming up more and doubling up on my fish oils, but that improved the creaminess minimally. And then once I finished my cycle, I felt like I added 2-3 lbs of water weight within the first week once I discontinued the product. Basically the next two cycles continued like this, decent results, but the sides and temporary nature of the results frustrated me. Enter Formestane. I started with 4 pumps a day, and ran that for an entire 8-week cycle. I never once felt dried out and creaky. I noticed gains, leaned out a ton, but never felt a drop in libido. In fact, I got much hornier. And once I discontinued, I don't feel like I puffed up with water as bad as I did with Arimistane. So point being, I just purchased another bottle of Formestane. I'll run it for an additional 8 weeks and I'll be creating a log tomorrow to record my gains.

Cool, man. I will look for your log

 

[throneof]

If you're using 300mg + , then you might worry about suppression.

Good to know. Have you used formestane?

 

[Piston Honda]

Good to know. Have you used formestane?

Yes

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Yes

this guy is so descriptively verbose
can you shorten things down a little already, brah?

 

[wray98]

Anything over 50mgs made my joints ache! Dried me out nicely though... so it was worth a little ache. I did try 75mgs for a couple days and the aches were worse. I stay at 50mgs max personally. I have talked with guys who run 100-125mgs regularly though, 2 say the joint issue is horrible but the effect is worth it and 1 guy told me he doesn't notice anything minus drying out, no joint issues at all.

 

[haiz69]

Anything over 50mgs made my joints ache! Dried me out nicely though... so it was worth a little ache. I did try 75mgs for a couple days and the aches were worse. I stay at 50mgs max personally. I have talked with guys who run 100-125mgs regularly though, 2 say the joint issue is horrible but the effect is worth it and 1 guy told me he doesn't notice anything minus drying out, no joint issues at all.

Not sure how some run it at 125mg - That seems absurdly high.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I have talked with guys who run 100-125mgs regularly though, 2 say the joint issue is horrible but the effect is worth it and 1 guy told me he doesn't notice anything minus drying out, no joint issues at all.

Not sure how some run it at 125mg - That seems absurdly high.

I don't run arimistane lower than 100mg, and typically more-often-than-not I run it @200mg (4 caps of our FINAFLEX REV PCT) -- absolutely no issues

I think at least half the "feedback" of joint issues or being sore is all placebro personally...monkey hear, monkey do

 

[haiz69]

I don't run arimistane lower than 100mg, and typically more-often-than-not I run it @200mg (4 caps of our FINAFLEX REV PCT) -- absolutely no issues

I think at least half the "feedback" of joint issues or being sore is all placebro personally...monkey hear, monkey do

I would agree that a lot of what is said affects others in these areas. If you suggest someone is going to feel something, the greater the chance they will. Joint pain being one of the most likely. I don't get any joint pain with Arimistane.