[ex_banana-eater]

Originally posted by whosyourdaddy02
Well, to each their own. I don't like transdermals as well and am sick of getting 1-test in my eyes. If I had to pick between a trans and a pill that had to be taken multiple times a day, I would pick the pill. I dont know t hough, everyone is dfferent...

WYD

during the night as well... if you want stable test levels

[wojo]

im seriously glad were the minority for both legal reasons and availability reasons..a pill would be much more convenient but i have serious doubts that a cyclo is the best oral route..i mean u need a to take it around the clock..well at least what i read from par and dazed..or i should say thats the impression i got

[drfly]

its not actually just a pill that u pop with a glass of water. its a powder, u put a serving of it under u're tongue and let it dissolve, then dont eat or drink for 15 minutes. u have to do this 5 times a day. and if u read the results of the testers, its nothing spectacular, 3 of em had pretty good results, but like i said, nothing spectacular. i personally would prefer to apply a trans twice a day, but thats why im part of the minority.

[WYD02]

The new 1fast product was indeed a cyclo "burn free" 1-test in powder... wonder what feedback will be like

WYD

[PLer]

I think the best thing to use this for would be pre workout only. Shoot some up the nose prior or during workout and for sustained release use the transdermals.

I doubt I will use it alone. I don't like to have to take 6 doses of anything, much less something that's either going to have to go up my nose or if taken orally most likely taste like crap.

[Conceptions]

up the nose?

[drfly]

yes, up the nose. u can put the powder in a solution, and use it intra-nasally, since it is a cyclo, it would have about 90% absorption, but like he said, it wouldnt be a sustained release, so it would be of better use as a pre-workout.

[WYD02]

What type of solution is generally found in intranasals?

[wojo]

well that worx for 4-ad but 1-test has no stimulant properties..not saying ur wrong but i easily could be..inrages is a 5alpha preworkout stim and so is psychdiol from ergo

[PLer]

Don't know about if it has stimulant properties or not, not really my point though. I was suggesting using it pre/during workout so that the levels in your body would be really high at that point in time, helping you lift more and get bigger/stronger. Obviously you would still need to take it either a ton of times a day or in addition to a transdermal to really reap benefits though.

You can just put it in water or saline solution, In Rage just uses purified water.

[curt2go]

Man did I ever get the ball rolling on this one.. i was just guessing with the cyclo 1-test.....But I do think that is what it is... Talk to ya..

[Conceptions]

Originally posted by drfly
yes, up the nose. u can put the powder in a solution, and use it intra-nasally, since it is a cyclo, it would have about 90% absorption, but like he said, it wouldnt be a sustained release, so it would be of better use as a pre-workout.

What type of solution would this mix in well with? Since i dont know about intra-nasal, do you stick this up your nose like those things people put up their nose when they have a cold? or can u just smell it from a distance?

[WYD02]

This was just answered two posts up...

"You can just put it in water or saline solution, In Rage just uses purified water."

[drfly]

yep, water or saline solution is easiest for an intranasal. and yes, it is "like those things people put up their nose when they have a cold"

by the way curt, i think u were right. im almost positive it is burn-free cyclo 1-test, good call on that one.

[PLer]

Originally posted by Conceptions


What type of solution would this mix in well with? Since i dont know about intra-nasal, do you stick this up your nose like those things people put up their nose when they have a cold? or can u just smell it from a distance?

Not trying to flame or anything buddy, but the thought of someone sitting there trying to inhale the fumes or something from a bottle busts me up!

You want to find some kind of metered pump spray bottle, so you know how much you're getting. I think Natru-vent sells good ones. Then you can just dump a reasonable amount of cyclo powder in shake it up over a couple days and then you are ready to go. A reasonable amount normally is like 7 grams for 30ml.

[lovetoeat]

Originally posted by wojo
well u can stack avants hung and syntrax's fuk..there is no way p.a would allow mike to sell his product

It is a cyclo 1-test that will be sold by 1fast's new company. PA isn't going to start selling something that would compete with his already popular 1-AD, sort of gets the consumer thinking "is 1-test better than 1-AD?" This is most likely the reason he started selling formasin under the new company Prototype Nutrition as not to compete with 6OXO. I originally thought the cyclo would be sold by them too but apparently that's not the case.

[curt2go]

How easy does it disolve into water????? Also how much can you do at once bfore absorption drops off... How long do you have to wait between using it. Also do you think it will be as effective under the tounge as intranazel.. I thought cyclo's were limited to 25mg /dose.. Talk to ya........

[PLer]

Originally posted by curt2go
How easy does it disolve into water????? Also how much can you do at once bfore absorption drops off... How long do you have to wait between using it. Also do you think it will be as effective under the tounge as intranazel.. I thought cyclo's were limited to 25mg /dose.. Talk to ya........

It's not too hard to get to dissolve. If you add like 7 grams over a 24 hour period shaking a lot of it will dissolve.

I don't remember, I think I may have something around here that says though. Hopefully someone can post the answer, if not I'll try to find it.

You'd want to wait about 3 hours between doses.

No, intranasal is more effective.

[Conceptions]

Originally posted by whosyourdaddy02
This was just answered two posts up...

"You can just put it in water or saline solution, In Rage just uses purified water."

yea i just noticed hehe, my bad! this sounds interesting, more info

[drfly]

hey curt, im thinking u were pretty dead on about the dosing, i think 25mg is about optimal per dose. could be wrong though, im not sure where the dropoff point is on absorption, and i think PLer is about right with 3 hours between doses.