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    Next stack. ARA + ABE + ...


    In September, after two weeks of nonstop from supplements (alphamine, f95%, creatine mono, nolvadren xt), I will start the stack, ARA and Anabeta Elite, plus other supplements (carnitine tartrate, glycerol, agmatine, Amino IV, creatine mono).

    my pattern for 50 days.

    6 sofgel Ara, daily, 6, 1 hour after breakfast on days off. 6, 45 minutes pre work, in the days on, still fasting.
    Anabeta Elite (new), as labeled, 4 a day, 2 + 2, on days off. 2 prework, 2 post work on days on.
    Carnitine tartrate, 2 grams together with ARA, in the days off.
    2 grams together with ARA in prework, days on.
    Glycerol, 6 grams with ARA, only on days.
    Agmatine, 1 gram prework, 500 mg at lunch, every day, 500 mg pre bed every day.
    Amino IV, 2 scoops intra work, 2 scoops post work.
    Creatine mono, 5 grams pre work, days on. 5 grams at breakfast, in the days off.

    Of course, follow a diet with high calories.

    Currently they are hypo, I still have another 10 days.
    Then slowly, I'm going to increase again the beloved carbs.

    Do you like my next integration?
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    Looks good.

    Only thing I would say is if you're planning on dosing ArA everyday, drop the dose to 1 gram.
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    ok, 4 sofgel.

    I just wanted to copy the last test of molecular nutrition.

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    The study took place at the Human Performance Research Lab, inside the University of Tampa. Thirty college-aged men were recruited, and randomized into two groups. The men were all experienced lifters to begin with, with an average maximum bench press of 229lbs. and leg press of 510lbs. going in. The men in the first group were given 1,500 mg of ARA (6 capsules of X-Factor) daily, and the other an identical-looking placebo. All men followed a controlled periodized resistance-training program for 8 weeks. At the end of the study, the group supplementing ARA reported significantly greater gains in lean body mass (3.6 lbs. vs. 0.2 lbs.). They also noticed an 88% greater increase in muscle thickness (.47 cm vs. .25 cm), and added significantly more strength to bench press and leg press (110 lbs. vs. 76 lbs.). Lastly, wingate peak anaerobic power was dramatically improved with ARA (78W vs. 28W), a 275% greater increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    ok, 4 sofgel.

    I just wanted to copy the last test of molecular nutrition.

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    The study took place at the Human Performance Research Lab, inside the University of Tampa. Thirty college-aged men were recruited, and randomized into two groups. The men were all experienced lifters to begin with, with an average maximum bench press of 229lbs. and leg press of 510lbs. going in. The men in the first group were given 1,500 mg of ARA (6 capsules of X-Factor) daily, and the other an identical-looking placebo. All men followed a controlled periodized resistance-training program for 8 weeks. At the end of the study, the group supplementing ARA reported significantly greater gains in lean body mass (3.6 lbs. vs. 0.2 lbs.). They also noticed an 88% greater increase in muscle thickness (.47 cm vs. .25 cm), and added significantly more strength to bench press and leg press (110 lbs. vs. 76 lbs.). Lastly, wingate peak anaerobic power was dramatically improved with ARA (78W vs. 28W), a 275% greater increase.
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    That study was done on 6 pills of X-Factor taken daily. Pre workout on training days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    That study was done on 6 pills of X-Factor taken daily. Pre workout on training days.
    hello,
    In fact, that's why I wanted to follow the protocol of 6 softgels per day, for 50 days.
    It should be emphasized that I would go to train 3 times a week.
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    You look like you researched pretty much all this before posting the thread, so I just wanted to give you another confirmation that you should be good to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    You look like you researched pretty much all this before posting the thread, so I just wanted to give you another confirmation that you should be good to go.
    yes!

    As soloists, in the past I've tried Anabeta Elite (old version) and ARA (only prework).
    and I was happy, always.
    Now I thought I would join them, stack, to see what known after 50 days of "cycle".
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    Just wanted to chime in and say, I did ABE+ARA+Follidrone, and that many hormones made me feel really really bad. Lethargy etc, I just think its too much to stack together.

    Maybe 2 anabolics, but 3 was insane.

    ABE+Follidrone
    or ARA+ABE would be good
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    for me, only natural choices
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    for me, only natural choices
    they are all natural....

    I didnt mean anabolic as in anabolic steroids. anabolic is a state in which you put your body
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    they are all natural....

    I didnt mean anabolic as in anabolic steroids. anabolic is a state in which you put your body
    ah, ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    Just wanted to chime in and say, I did ABE+ARA+Follidrone, and that many hormones made me feel really really bad. Lethargy etc, I just think its too much to stack together.

    Maybe 2 anabolics, but 3 was insane.

    ABE+Follidrone
    or ARA+ABE would be good
    Interesting note that you'd get lethargy from any of these natural products.
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    then what?

    4, or 6 softgels per day, for 50 days cycle ...
    What do you recommend?
    there is so much difference between take 4 softgel, or 6?
    I want to do great things
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    1.5g ArA (6 gels) was the sweetspot for me on my ArA run.
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    cycle for 50 days?
    50 or workouts?

    to me, long ago, 6 softgel for 50 workouts, I liked it so much
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    cycle for 50 days?
    50 or workouts?

    to me, long ago, 6 softgel for 50 workouts, I liked it so much
    50 workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    cycle for 50 days?
    50 or workouts?

    to me, long ago, 6 softgel for 50 workouts, I liked it so much
    50workouts. If you workout 4+ times / week then you only need to dose on workout days
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    Start at 1 gram if it's your first run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Start at 1 gram if it's your first run.
    Agreed. I wouldn't recommend jumping in at a higher dose, as 1g could be very effective (and more cost-effective as well).
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    no ... as I wrote,
    I've already tried xfactor ...

    I made these for a period stack:

    1) xfactor (1 gram) + Bioforge + burn24
    xfactor for 50 workouts.

    2) xfactor (1.5 grams) + Bioforge
    xfactor for 50 workouts.

    3) xfactor (1 gram) + xt nolvadren
    xfactor for 50 workouts

    as you notice, I have already tried in the past ARA, and I've always liked.

    Now, I want to try something different.
    Instead of doing 50 workouts, I wanted to do the cycle of 50 days, to see if there are differences on the outcome.

    the question is,
    1grammo per day, or 1.5 grams per day?



    I assumed that in the period of ARA 1.5 to workout, I felt more pumped.
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    If you felt 1.5 grams was more beneficial, go with 1.5 grams then.
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    yes!
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    according to you,
    is there any other product, I should add?

    abe + ara + "?"
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    (-)epi would be pretty cool! Hot new ingredient lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quads_of_Stee View Post
    (-)epi would be pretty cool! Hot new ingredient lol
    link info?
    prohormones???
    nooo!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    link info?
    prohormones???
    nooo!!!
    oh no not epistane, (-)-epicatechin. Follidrone, Follidrex, Ep1c, Myosynergy. It increases endurance by crazy amounts and seems like it would stack well. Ep1c is 20% off on nutra until the end of august and is very economical and follidrone was the first one to come out. If you want other goodies the Myosynergy has a good dose of HICA (leucine metabolite) to aid in recovery with a moderate dose of (-)epi. Ep1c and follidrone are the top two (-)epi ONLY products currently IMO.

    Or like into Alphamax by performax labs. It is a test booster, sleep / gh helper, and even has arimistane to help control estrogen for pretty cheap!
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    A good basic explanation of Epi on the product page here

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/b...ollidrone.html

    MyoSynergy would take away the need to get the additional Forskolin, and has several other proven ingredients integrated

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/e...yosynergy.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quads_of_Stee View Post
    oh no not epistane, (-)-epicatechin. Follidrone, Follidrex, Ep1c, Myosynergy. It increases endurance by crazy amounts and seems like it would stack well. Ep1c is 20% off on nutra until the end of august and is very economical and follidrone was the first one to come out. If you want other goodies the Myosynergy has a good dose of HICA (leucine metabolite) to aid in recovery with a moderate dose of (-)epi. Ep1c and follidrone are the top two (-)epi ONLY products currently IMO.

    Or like into Alphamax by performax labs. It is a test booster, sleep / gh helper, and even has arimistane to help control estrogen for pretty cheap!
    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    A good basic explanation of Epi on the product page here

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/b...ollidrone.html

    MyoSynergy would take away the need to get the additional Forskolin, and has several other proven ingredients integrated

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/e...yosynergy.html
    brothers thanks for the tips.
    Now I do a search, and I study this product!
    if I have doubts, ask for information here
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    brothers thanks for the tips.
    Now I do a search, and I study this product!
    if I have doubts, ask for information here
    don't forget about alphamax, plenty of logs of ABE+ARA+alphamax on here for you to look through too.
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    Alphamax, unfortunately in Europe, online sites, I do not know where to buy it.

    the other two products,
    Black Lion Research Follidrone (60 Caps)
    Olympus Labs EP1C x 60 caps

    Yes, I can buy them.
    Now I can tell, I read about these two products seem interesting. ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    Alphamax, unfortunately in Europe, online sites, I do not know where to buy it.

    the other two products,
    Black Lion Research Follidrone (60 Caps)
    Olympus Labs EP1C x 60 caps

    Yes, I can buy them.
    Now I can tell, I read about these two products seem interesting. ..
    If you look at logs on these products you can always see that users reported increased endurance. This alone would pair up nicely with ABE and ARA as there will be more damage inflicted upon the muscle through the higher reps and ARA inflammation which then would be supplemented by the extra food eaten from the hunger gained by ABE. This is the way I personally see it. I have ABE+Folli ready to run in the near future, just not ARA
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    perfect!
    I decided ...

    ara + abe + ep1

    ep1c, how long should be taken?
    A maximum of 1 month? 2 capsules a day?

    Alphamax
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    Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    perfect!
    I decided ...

    ara + abe + ep1

    ep1c, how long should be taken?
    A maximum of 1 month? 2 capsules a day?

    Alphamax
    I tagged the performax reps, they should be in here when they log on.

    As for ep1c just do 2caps a day around the same time every day. 8-12weeks. It's actually really new so no one really knows how long is the max it can be run.
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    thank you brother,

    Meanwhile, I am looking for more information on the forum!
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    the initial stack, adding:

    Ep1c and AmentoMax!

    ^ _ ^

    I'm excited, can not wait to try everything!

    Although, these two products are the only ones that I've never tried it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ma70 View Post
    1.5g ArA (6 gels) was the sweetspot for me on my ArA run.
    Same here when I ran it solo...

    However, this fall, I'm going to run ABE + ArA. Look forward to it. It's hard looking into my supplement drawer and see ABE just sitting there collecting dust. LOL!!
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    Will you be doing a log of these (just thoughts and workouts)?
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    talk to me?

    As soon as I ordered it all, yes, I will write here all my impressions.

    I can just update the list of mega stack
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    sounds awesome! I'll tag some olympus lab reps in here, in case you have questions on ep1c @edje007 @g0hardorgohom
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    A good basic explanation of Epi on the product page here

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/b...ollidrone.html

    MyoSynergy would take away the need to get the additional Forskolin, and has several other proven ingredients integrated

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/e...yosynergy.html
    MyoSynergy for sure gets my vote for those wanting to stack epicatechin and arachidonic acid.

    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/m...tor-stack.html

    Orbit even has X-Factor and MyoSynergy bundled, as Matt P has spoken of great synergy between the two products.
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