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Anyone have any feedback or knowledge regarding whether blackstone labs razor edge , neuro force adrafinil, or ampitropin would be a good daily supplement? Would it be better than just straight caffeine?
 

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Adrafinil is a prodrug for modafinil that's entirely liver-dependent; there's not a lot of published safety data, but it would not be advisable to use it as a daily supplement. Every other day for a few months with a good break afterwards, perhaps, but no more than that. That covers razor edge and straight adrafinil.

Ampitropin appears to contain picamilon, which is a niacin-bound GABA that penetrates the BBB. You really don't want those receptors to adapt to a consistent dose, so much like phenibut, it'd be a good idea to limit use to no more than a few times per week.
 

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Is there anything on the market that could be tAken daily and be better than caffeine? How about I focus?
 
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Adrafinil is a prodrug for modafinil that's entirely liver-dependent; there's not a lot of published safety data, but it would not be advisable to use it as a daily supplement. Every other day for a few months with a good break afterwards, perhaps, but no more than that. That covers razor edge and straight adrafinil.

Ampitropin appears to contain picamilon, which is a niacin-bound GABA that penetrates the BBB. You really don't want those receptors to adapt to a consistent dose, so much like phenibut, it'd be a good idea to limit use to no more than a few times per week.
Picamilon does not suffer from the same fate of tachyphylaxis as in phenibut. They also act on different GABA receptors, so you can't really compare them that way.
 
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If you're looking for stimulant alternatives an idea would be to cycle caffeine with Rhodiola. Sulbutiamine and phenylpiracetam are also relatively potent stimulants but develop a tolerance fairly quickly. From the anecdotal reports I have seen on AMP the same tolerance issues seem to develop. Have you ever looked into Focus XT ? It is a supplement available without caffeine and could be helpful in aiding focus without any physical stimulation.
 
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You should look into/try Sunifiram. Nootropic that has stimulating properties comparable to Adderall. Reversed my caffeine tolerance.
 
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You should look into/try Sunifiram. Nootropic that has stimulating properties comparable to Adderall. Reversed my caffeine tolerance.
OP said for daily use (plus this thread is old). Can you really suggest this supplement for daily use?
 
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As long as Theanine is thrown in at the end of the day to antagonize AMPA and Kainate receptors and a glycine antagonist like L-Phenylalanine. Tolerance shouldn't be an issue.
 

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Did you just discover nootropics and decide to go on a bump spree?
 

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