i dosed one cap prewrokout and one cap postwork out and feel good. i had steak potatoes and broccoli last night and dosed a cap after and felt pretty good. the bitter melon seems to be better after meals but the banaba leaf gives you pumps in the gym. i was drinking a powerade intra workout and i noticed the pumps a little bit more than my normal stack which is insane already. clash and noxygen can't be touched right now.