[Qonix]

Is it?
I'm looking to start a long bulking phase, trying to stay ad lean ad possibile from september to april (maybe throwing in a month just to clean a bit). When would be the best moment to use this stack?
Third year of training for me.

Is anabeta and ara the best natty stack (minimizing fat gains and bloaing effect)?
Is there a big difference between anabeta and elite version?
Would you suggest anything else?

[Jiigzz]

Is it?
I'm looking to start a long bulking phase, trying to stay ad lean ad possibile from september to april (maybe throwing in a month just to clean a bit). When would be the best moment to use this stack?
Third year of training for me.

Is anabeta and ara the best natty stack (minimizing fat gains and bloaing effect)?
Is there a big difference between anabeta and elite version?
Would you suggest anything else?

One of the best for sure. I myself prefer the elite as it has forskolin in it

Xgels + ABE is a great combo

[aaronuconn]

I would think so. Or even X-Gels + F-95. Forskolin may assist in mitigating fat gain.

[Qonix]

For me to get the elite version It's 25$ more.. Is it worth?

How long does this stack (elite and non version) last?

[aaronuconn]

For me to get the elite version It's 25$ more.. Is it worth? How long does this stack (elite and non version) last?

Depends, but I believe most bottles are a month of supply?

[Qonix]

Just checked.. Both anabeta (elite too) and xgels, by the label is 4caps/day. Which means 30days for anabeta and 25 for xgels.
xgels are quite expensive and the anabeta elite too but if it's worth I might give a try..

how ow long should the stack be run for?
My bulking will be from September to April, is there any best moment?

[TheNietzsche]

For me to get the elite version It's 25$ more.. Is it worth?

How long does this stack (elite and non version) last?

Elite is definitely worth it IMO.

[Wolfy3d2000]

Just checked.. Both anabeta (elite too) and xgels, by the label is 4caps/day. Which means 30days for anabeta and 25 for xgels. xgels are quite expensive and the anabeta elite too but if it's worth I might give a try.. how ow long should the stack be run for? My bulking will be from September to April, is there any best moment?

Remember, you only take X-gels on workout days. So it's more than 25 days worth. I just started an x-gel/OG anabeta run myself. Was thinking about ABE, but I got the OG anabeta dirt cheap

[kbayne]

Just checked.. Both anabeta (elite too) and xgels, by the label is 4caps/day. Which means 30days for anabeta and 25 for xgels. xgels are quite expensive and the anabeta elite too but if it's worth I might give a try.. how ow long should the stack be run for? My bulking will be from September to April, is there any best moment?

AnaBeta Elite is surely worth the extra cash. Especially the new AnaBeta Elite when stacked with ArA.

Run ArA for 50 total workout days and AnaBeta Elite 8 weeks on/ 4 weeks off if possible for maximal results.

I've ran this stack a few times and it really is one of the best/if not the best natty stack available.

[Qonix]

Should I increase the protein intake while using this stack? For example when I tried ostarine (disappointed) was raccomended an increase by 20%

[Wolfy3d2000]

Should I increase the protein intake while using this stack? For example when I tried ostarine (disappointed) was raccomended an increase by 20%

I think protein would still be good at 1-1.5/LB. I have read that some people see better effects with higher carbs on ABE, so keep that in mind as well.

[Qonix]

Ok thx!

also someone mento ones a new version of anabeta or xgels.. Is that one better? How do i know if i'm getting the new one (are there other ingredients?)

[kbayne]

Ok thx! also someone mento ones a new version of anabeta or xgels.. Is that one better? How do i know if i'm getting the new one (are there other ingredients?)

Both ArA and AnaBeta/AnaBeta Elite tend to cause hungry increases and allow for individuals to tolerate higher kcal counts.

The new AnaBeta Elite will have Lodhra Extract and Eleutherococcus Extract.

In the PES subsection, there is a write up on how the new AnaBeta Elite version is synergistic with ArA.

[Wolfy3d2000]

Ok thx! also someone mento ones a new version of anabeta or xgels.. Is that one better? How do i know if i'm getting the new one (are there other ingredients?)

I'm not too sure of the differences, but I think the new ABE has siberian ginseng, which if I'm mistaken helps endurance. Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in.

[Wolfy3d2000]

Both ArA and AnaBeta/AnaBeta Elite tend to cause hungry increases and allow for individuals to tolerate higher kcal counts. The new AnaBeta Elite will have Lodhra Extract and Eleutherococcus Extract. In the PES subsection, there is a write up on how the new AnaBeta Elite version is synergistic with ArA.

And boom, right on cue.

[nicksox15]

It is a good stack, but also consider alphamax + xgels. There are quite a few on the boards that have run this stack with awesome results. Forskolin, armistane and a good natty test boost. You'll see strength increases while reducing bloat.

[snagencyV2.0]

yes in the same vein as nick above - what you are looking at is a fine stack and obviously there are a lot of fans/reps who show it a lot of love, but I wouldn't necessarily go so far as to label it "best natty stack" in existence, by any means....there are many different products out there, many variations, a lot of different ways to go

for my money, I like the MASS 550 formulation - a novel and unique all-in-one product that will take care of all your needs, boost test by reducing estrogen, induce protein synthesis, and reports we have of recovery and well-being are top-notch

nutraplanet still has the free T deal going on too, while supplies last

Redefine Nutrition (FinaFlex) NEW Mass 550 & FREE Custom T-Shirt (LIMITED TIME): Discount NEW Mass 550 & FREE Custom T-Shirt Supplements

[Synapsin]

Indeed. As others have stated, this is the best bang for your buck natty stack around.

[AntM1564]

I agree with Alphamax + ArA. I am currently running that stack now. Lifts have gone up, weight has gone up some and I am still just as lean if not a tad more. There are a few logs, unsponsored, right now with that stack and it seems to be going great for those users as well. You could also run the OG Anabeta with that stack. ABE might be too much F95 for some.

[kbayne]

BTW, here is an insane deal on AnaBeta Elite + AmentoMax

http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/p...amentomax.html

[NewAgeMayan]

I am so tempted to run the ArA-ABE stack. Only things stalling me are

1) Ill only get a 2 month run with what is usually 4 months of product

2) Im sceptical the gains from running the two as a stack will be cumulative

*shrug*

[kbayne]

I am so tempted to run the ArA-ABE stack. Only things stalling me are 1) Ill only get a 2 month run with what is usually 4 months of product 2) Im sceptical the gains from running the two as a stack will be cumulative *shrug*

When you say 2 month run out of 4 month product, are you talking about both products being stacked at once?

If so, you don't have to stack them. You could run them solo or bridge them to make it a longer run.

[bolt10]

I am so tempted to run the ArA-ABE stack. Only things stalling me are

1) Ill only get a 2 month run with what is usually 4 months of product

2) Im sceptical the gains from running the two as a stack will be cumulative

*shrug*

Run a famous bridge like Kbayne or myself would recommend:

Weeks 1-4: Product A
Weeks 5-8: Products A and B
Weeks 9-12: Product B

Choose whichever you want to be A and B. Not sure it'll matter too much.

[Danes]

ArA Is maybe the only thing i never have tried.
Honestly i am affraid.for inflamatory in the shoulders

I know there is a.XFA (with omega3) or could.run xgels with omega3..

i did like Anabeta (used higher dosage ) but ABE gave me stomach issues due to forskolin lucky those who dont have problem with forskolin

Thank you for this idea. Will run OG Anabeta with ArA

[Adizzle1]

I agree with Alphamax + ArA. I am currently running that stack now. Lifts have gone up, weight has gone up some and I am still just as lean if not a tad more. There are a few logs, unsponsored, right now with that stack and it seems to be going great for those users as well. You could also run the OG Anabeta with that stack. ABE might be too much F95 for some.

Id definitly agree here and when talking about "the best natty stack" Alphamax def. deserves a mention.

Unlike alot of products, Alphamax is a full non-prop blend so you know the exact dosage of every ingredient. As well every ingredient included has a proven track record either through human clinical studies or years and years of anecdotal feedback.

Alphamax doesnt quite get the attention it deserves however with full doses Divanill, L-DOPA, Arimistane, Vitamin D and Forksolin 95 its impossible to deny its at the top of the list for natural testosterone booster/anabolic.

Alphamax + ARA has been a proven combo that many have ran before, and as ANT mentioned if you can handle high doses of Forskolin then ABE would be another great addition.

[NewAgeMayan]

Thanks guys (kb and bolt), that A-B stack structure looks like a good compromise.

[kbayne]

Run a famous bridge like Kbayne or myself would recommend: Weeks 1-4: Product A Weeks 5-8: Products A and B Weeks 9-12: Product B Choose whichever you want to be A and B. Not sure it'll matter too much.

Perfect set up.

[NewAgeMayan]

Choose whichever you want to be A and B. Not sure it'll matter too much.

Now that I think about it I seem to recall MrC saying the effects of ABE 'linger' for a couple of weeks post-cycle (not sure how true this is of ArA tho), so maybe running ABE first (A) could be most beneficial (in terms of maximising the ABE-ArA synergy).

[kbayne]

Now that I think about it I seem to recall MrC saying the effects of ABE 'linger' for a couple of weeks post-cycle (not sure how true this is of ArA tho), so maybe running ABE first (A) could be most beneficial (in terms of maximising the ABE-ArA synergy).

ArA stays in the system for about 2 weeks post use as well. At least for me and a few others who have noticed this.

ArA also takes longer to kick in. Fully kicks in around week 3ish.

[NewAgeMayan]

Hmmm, might be better to start with ArA then...yeah Im prolly overthinking things.