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    anyone have home made pre workout supps? like to see what you guys have come up with..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohiostate2827 View Post
    anyone have home made pre workout supps? like to see what you guys have come up with..
    We keep it simple here with 1000mg agmatine 509mg niacin non flush and 1500mg of Arginine if we do it as a homemade pre workout
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    Caffeine 200mg + Nitrates 300-600mg = Cheap & effective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levyii View Post
    We keep it simple here with 1000mg agmatine 509mg niacin non flush and 1500mg of Arginine if we do it as a homemade pre workout
    why the arginine, i hope its not for NO production
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    why the arginine, i hope its not for NO production
    No, I read somewhere that it's a good supplement to take for heart health, and it stacks well with agmatine in our experience. I read the article that says Arginine isn't for NO production
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    Citrulline/Citrulline Malate + Amentomax+ Caffeine, simple enough.
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    SNS sells everything needed for a preworkout blend. Creatime, agmatine, caffeine, citrulline, leucine, and if you don't want to start from scratch just pick up focus xt and add some goodies.
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    Citrulline Malate: 6 grams
    Beta Alanine: 2-3 grams
    Taurine: 2 grams
    Caffeine: 250mg
    Yohimbine: 20mg

    Occasionally I'll play around with potassium or betaine nitrate. This stack gives me that edge in clinical doses. Better than any preworkout I've ever tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarthGainer View Post
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    I was thinking the same thing haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by healthfanatic View Post
    Citrulline Malate: 6 grams
    Beta Alanine: 2-3 grams
    Taurine: 2 grams
    Caffeine: 250mg
    Yohimbine: 20mg

    Occasionally I'll play around with potassium or betaine nitrate. This stack gives me that edge in clinical doses. Better than any preworkout I've ever tried.
    Speaking of potassium nitrate, mine comes in the mail today. But I like citruline malate, beta alanine, caffeine, and yohimbine also.
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    id rather not make my own because it's just too much crap on the shelf

    but things i look for in pre's:
    caffeine
    potassium nitrate
    agmatine
    LCLT or Alcar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    id rather not make my own because it's just too much crap on the shelf

    but things i look for in pre's:
    caffeine
    potassium nitrate
    agmatine
    LCLT or Alcar
    And there really isn't a lot products that contain potassium nitrate...at least that I know of. Forgot to mention LCLT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    And there really isn't a lot products that contain potassium nitrate...at least that I know of. Forgot to mention LCLT.
    i know, kno3 isn't in a ton of pre's just yet, but if a pre has it in there it's a bonus...or else i can just take the capsules
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    i know, kno3 isn't in a ton of pre's just yet, but if a pre has it in there it's a bonus...or else i can just take the capsules
    Agreed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    SNS sells everything needed for a preworkout blend. Creatime, agmatine, caffeine, citrulline, leucine, and if you don't want to start from scratch just pick up focus xt and add some goodies.
    Love this:
    6g Cit Mal
    5g creatine
    Scoop of focus xt or 200mg caffein pill
    4g leucine
    1g agmatine

    And SNS sells it all in bulk. Very convenient.

    And i'll throw in some nitrates every once in a while if I really wanna get crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post

    Love this:
    6g Cit Mal
    5g creatine
    Scoop of focus xt or 200mg caffein pill
    4g leucine
    1g agmatine

    And SNS sells it all in bulk. Very convenient.

    And i'll throw in some nitrates every once in a while if I really wanna get crazy.
    If only we had that as well what about tmg?
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    Current pre:


    24 mg ephedrine
    5 mg yohimbine
    200 mg caffeine
    500 mg cdp-choline
    1 g ALCAR
    80 mg amentoflavone
    3 g betaine + betaine nitrate (350 mg nitrate)
    300 mg potassium nitrate
    3 g COP
    9 g cit mal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capit View Post
    Current pre: 24 mg ephedrine 5 mg yohimbine 200 mg caffeine 500 mg cdp-choline 1 g ALCAR 80 mg amentoflavone 3 g betaine + betaine nitrate (350 mg nitrate) 300 mg potassium nitrate 3 g COP 9 g cit mal
    Lol what is that like $6 per workout? How's that treating you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raw Dog View Post
    Lol what is that like $6 per workout? How's that treating you?
    Edit: after re reading I hope you're trolling...

    Oops double posted instead of editing
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    Posted this in another pre-wo thread, but figure I'll also put it here....

    Sitting at work, spent about 5 hours putting this all together. Slow day. I've had so many tubs of various pre-wo at home, it's been over a year since I've had to buy anything new. Came online to research, and started looking at pre-jym and conqu3r, but each had downsides...


    - With both, of course, the price. $2.04 for pre-jym, w/ shipping. $2.50 for conqu3r, w/shipping.
    - I also don't really need 300mg of caffeine. I like to use the minimum amount of caffeine necessary to get me going, and I find that 200mg is enough.
    - I especially don't like the inclusion of AMP in conqu3r at all. Deal-breaker, for me.
    - I also don't like the creatine mono in conqu3r, as I get side effects from mono, but that's just me personally.
    - With both, unnecessary artificial colors and sweeteners. I know, I've been consuming these things in my prewo's for years, but for a long time I've wanted to try to cut them down as much as possible.


    Anyway, that's all personal preference, but seeing those open labels with all the ingredients nicely laid out inspired me, so I started building my own and here's what I came up with, along with serving size, price per serving, and brand. Everything is powder, unless otherwise noted. All ingredients are from amazon, as I'm a prime member so shipping is not a factor. I also used the subscribe and save option on several ingredients and saved an extra 15%.


    Pre-workout
    Caffeine (from coffee extract) - 200mg ($0.028) [BulkSupplements]
    Citrulline Malate 2:1 - 6g ($0.432) [BulkSupplements]
    Agmatine (capsule) - 1g ($0.42) [USPLabs]
    Carnosyn Beta Alanine - 2g ($0.064) [NOW]
    Betaine TMG (capsule) - 1.5g ($0.14) [Source Naturals]
    Taurine - 1g ($0.048) [NOW]
    NAC (capsule) - 600mg ($0.06) [NOW]
    Tyrosine - 1.5g ($0.195) [BulkSupplements]
    Bioperine (capsule) - 10mg ($0.04) [Source Naturals]
    TOTAL COST = $1.427/serving


    Post-workout
    Creacore Creatine HCL - 1.75g ($0.29) [MuscleTech] (I used 3.5g for initial saturation, then backed off)
    Carnosyn Beta Alanine - 2g ($0.064) [NOW]
    Betaine TMG (capsule) - 1.5g ($0.14) [Source Naturals]
    Bioperine (capsule) - 10mg ($0.04) [Source Naturals]
    TOTAL COST = $0.534


    COMBINED TOTAL = $1.961



    On off days I would use the post-workout mix in the morning with a second dose of beta alanine and betaine sometime later.


    So yea, not too much cheaper than pre-jym, but there are some advantages. I was able to add in some agmatine, cut the caffeine down, and double my doses of betaine and beta alanine. Cost could be cut even more if using creatine mono rather than hcl, but I'm one of those people who gets side effects from mono and hcl has treated me well. I'm still getting artificial colors/flavors from the creacore, but the cost is so much less than con-cret unflavored that I couldn't pass it up. I left out alpha gpc and huperzine, because I don't really care about those, but I may add alcar eventually. I also left out the bcaa, because I already have a giant tub at home that will last me for a long time still.


    Any input is welcome. Additions, subtractions, dosages, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by warpyfunch View Post
    Posted this in another pre-wo thread, but figure I'll also put it here.... Sitting at work, spent about 5 hours putting this all together. Slow day. I've had so many tubs of various pre-wo at home, it's been over a year since I've had to buy anything new. Came online to research, and started looking at pre-jym and conqu3r, but each had downsides... - With both, of course, the price. $2.04 for pre-jym, w/ shipping. $2.50 for conqu3r, w/shipping. - I also don't really need 300mg of caffeine. I like to use the minimum amount of caffeine necessary to get me going, and I find that 200mg is enough. - I especially don't like the inclusion of AMP in conqu3r at all. Deal-breaker, for me. - I also don't like the creatine mono in conqu3r, as I get side effects from mono, but that's just me personally. - With both, unnecessary artificial colors and sweeteners. I know, I've been consuming these things in my prewo's for years, but for a long time I've wanted to try to cut them down as much as possible. Anyway, that's all personal preference, but seeing those open labels with all the ingredients nicely laid out inspired me, so I started building my own and here's what I came up with, along with serving size, price per serving, and brand. Everything is powder, unless otherwise noted. All ingredients are from amazon, as I'm a prime member so shipping is not a factor. I also used the subscribe and save option on several ingredients and saved an extra 15%. Pre-workout Caffeine (from coffee extract) - 200mg ($0.028) [BulkSupplements] Citrulline Malate 2:1 - 6g ($0.432) [BulkSupplements] Agmatine (capsule) - 1g ($0.42) [USPLabs] Carnosyn Beta Alanine - 2g ($0.064) [NOW] Betaine TMG (capsule) - 1.5g ($0.14) [Source Naturals] Taurine - 1g ($0.048) [NOW] NAC (capsule) - 600mg ($0.06) [NOW] Tyrosine - 1.5g ($0.195) [BulkSupplements] Bioperine (capsule) - 10mg ($0.04) [Source Naturals] TOTAL COST = $1.427/serving Post-workout Creacore Creatine HCL - 1.75g ($0.29) [MuscleTech] (I used 3.5g for initial saturation, then backed off) Carnosyn Beta Alanine - 2g ($0.064) [NOW] Betaine TMG (capsule) - 1.5g ($0.14) [Source Naturals] Bioperine (capsule) - 10mg ($0.04) [Source Naturals] TOTAL COST = $0.534 COMBINED TOTAL = $1.961 On off days I would use the post-workout mix in the morning with a second dose of beta alanine and betaine sometime later. So yea, not too much cheaper than pre-jym, but there are some advantages. I was able to add in some agmatine, cut the caffeine down, and double my doses of betaine and beta alanine. Cost could be cut even more if using creatine mono rather than hcl, but I'm one of those people who gets side effects from mono and hcl has treated me well. I'm still getting artificial colors/flavors from the creacore, but the cost is so much less than con-cret unflavored that I couldn't pass it up. I left out alpha gpc and huperzine, because I don't really care about those, but I may add alcar eventually. I also left out the bcaa, because I already have a giant tub at home that will last me for a long time still. Any input is welcome. Additions, subtractions, dosages, etc.
    This is the idea right here, cost effective method doing it your own way. I have a similar set up; definitely add that ALCAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by avega17 View Post
    This is the idea right here, cost effective method doing it your own way. I have a similar set up; definitely add that ALCAR.
    would you add the alcar in place of anything, or just add it with everything else? pre? post? both?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warpyfunch View Post
    would you add the alcar in place of anything, or just add it with everything else? pre? post? both?
    Keep everything the same. Try 1-2g of ALCAR pre and 2g LCLT post. Or could look into the other forms, but I'm not well versed in the differences. Maybe someone can explain
  

  
 

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