New Study Shows Omega-6 Fat Arachidonic Acid Builds Muscle

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    No idea. The study isn't published yet. It's just a poster presentation at this point. I'm guessing another 6-12 months before we see a provisional followed by publication.
    Gotcha. Thanks.


  2. On week 5 of my stack including ArA and have hit Pr's on bench and squat in back to back weeks/ must say this will be a staple 2/3 times a year! I think I may end up picking up another bottle of X-Gels though because Id like to give 1.5g a shot...

    running 1g currently. Deciding whether or not to bump up to 1.5g after the first bottle is finished.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    On week 5 of my stack including ArA and have hit Pr's on bench and squat in back to back weeks/ must say this will be a staple 2/3 times a year! I think I may end up picking up another bottle of X-Gels though because Id like to give 1.5g a shot... running 1g currently. Deciding whether or not to bump up to 1.5g after the first bottle is finished.
    If 1g of X-Gels is working well, I'd keep it there.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    If 1g of X-Gels is working well, I'd keep it there.
    Id like to think it is based on results so far, but then again i havent noticed increased DOMS/soreness, and im not sure what else to expect.. hence why i was gonna play around with the dosage
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  5. Just noticed this, apparently they dosed 1.5 grams daily so most definitely taken on non-training days as well (which I personally recommend because I noticed better results @ 1 gram daily vs 1.5 grams training days only).

    I would think 1 gram daily would be sufficient though, for smaller guys like myself.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Just noticed this, apparently they dosed 1.5 grams daily so most definitely taken on non-training days as well (which I personally recommend because I noticed better results @ 1 gram daily vs 1.5 grams training days only).

    I would think 1 gram daily would be sufficient though, for smaller guys like myself.
    im taking 1g on training days only.. training 4 days per week, sooooo youve taken it on non training days as well.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    im taking 1g on training days only.. training 4 days per week, sooooo youve taken it on non training days as well.
    First time I used XF, 1 gram every day first thing in the morning (training days, I train first thing in the morning). 50 days. No GMS, no LCLT, still continued taking fish oils at the time. That run was a better run than my second run @ 1.5 grams preworkout only (I think it was 5 days lift 1 day no lift, could possibly have been 4 days lift 1 day no lift, probably the latter) w/ GMS + LCLT. The first run was a better run than the second run.

    When I run it again in the future, I'm just going to stick with daily dose of 1 gram. No GMS, no LCLT. Maybe grab 3 bottles and run it for 75 days straight.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    No idea. The study isn't published yet. It's just a poster presentation at this point. I'm guessing another 6-12 months before we see a provisional followed by publication.
    You won't get to see a provisional manuscript, most (real) journals don't allow authors to do that.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    You won't get to see a provisional manuscript, most (real) journals don't allow authors to do that.
    Alrighty then, we're just waiting for it to get published then

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    First time I used XF, 1 gram every day first thing in the morning (training days, I train first thing in the morning). 50 days. No GMS, no LCLT, still continued taking fish oils at the time. That run was a better run than my second run @ 1.5 grams preworkout only (I think it was 5 days lift 1 day no lift, could possibly have been 4 days lift 1 day no lift, probably the latter) w/ GMS + LCLT. The first run was a better run than the second run.

    When I run it again in the future, I'm just going to stick with daily dose of 1 gram. No GMS, no LCLT. Maybe grab 3 bottles and run it for 75 days straight.
    thought my post posted before i xd off the screen.. whoops.. anyway, what benefits did you see running it every day for 50 days vs the training days only? im interested especially because my lifting split is only 3-4 days per week. Knowing it take a few weeks to get integrated into the system and see results, my cycle of 50 training days is looking like 12-14 weeks :/
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    thought my post posted before i xd off the screen.. whoops.. anyway, what benefits did you see running it every day for 50 days vs the training days only? im interested especially because my lifting split is only 3-4 days per week. Knowing it take a few weeks to get integrated into the system and see results, my cycle of 50 training days is looking like 12-14 weeks :/
    Definitely more sore, that's for sure. Better strength gains on the first run vs. the second run.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Definitely more sore, that's for sure. Better strength gains on the first run vs. the second run.
    hmm interesting. Obviously to each their own, but is their any literature discussing ArA on 50 straight days VERSUS 50 training days. As in a study comparing the two results? (not including this study :P )
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Alrighty then, we're just waiting for it to get published then
    Indeed, which may take a while. Journals generally ask for the copyright of the manuscript and that's why they can't post a provisional copy (not to mention no scientist would want people to see their unfinished drafts). A provisional copy wouldn't do any good anyway because it wouldn't have been sent for peer review yet. I assumed with all the hype that the manuscript was being published, not just a poster presentation.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    hmm interesting. Obviously to each their own, but is their any literature discussing ArA on 50 straight days VERSUS 50 training days. As in a study comparing the two results? (not including this study :P )
    According to the poster presentation, it was 1.5 grams dosed daily. There's a few rest days typically in these Tampa studies. This was an 8 week study so it's safe to assume that they dosed 1.5 grams daily for the entirety of the 8 weeks. My guess on the workout protocol is that they most likely did a 4 lift days a week lifting schedule plus 1 day wingates as that seems to be the norm for the 8 week studies coming out of that lab.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I saw we need an AnaBeta Elite + X-Gels Stack Sale in honor of new study? wink wink?

    Totally.agree
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    I saw we need an AnaBeta Elite + X-Factor Stack Sale in honor of new study? wink wink?
    What are the chances of ever seeing a clinical study on AnaBeta?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    According to the poster presentation, it was 1.5 grams dosed daily. There's a few rest days typically in these Tampa studies. This was an 8 week study so it's safe to assume that they dosed 1.5 grams daily for the entirety of the 8 weeks. My guess on the workout protocol is that they most likely did a 4 lift days a week lifting schedule plus 1 day wingates as that seems to be the norm for the 8 week studies coming out of that lab.
    The study was lifting 3 days per week. Dunno what volume was per session.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeMayan View Post
    The study was lifting 3 days per week. Dunno what volume was per session.
    There yah go then :P Still, going by the poster presentation, it was 1.5 grams dosed daily.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Still, going by the poster presentation, it was 1.5 grams dosed daily.
    Correct, Llewellyn has confirmed this himself.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    There yah go then :P Still, going by the poster presentation, it was 1.5 grams dosed daily.
    came back to say that^
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Alrighty then, we're just waiting for it to get published then
    Yep, it should be published in the ISSN in the not too distant future.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Yep, it should be published in the ISSN in the not too distant future.
    I don't know all publications but Can t see what journal ISSN is referring to.

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  24. Quote Originally Posted by tony soprano View Post
    What are the chances of ever seeing a clinical study on AnaBeta?
    Keep buying PES products so we have the surplus funds, and then I'd say a very good chance
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
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  26. Just snagged three bottles for a VERY sweet price. Excited to run this again.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by haiz69 View Post
    Just snagged three bottles for a VERY sweet price. Excited to run this again.
    X-Factor sales are easier and easier to come by these days
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    X-Factor sales are easier and easier to come by these days
    Congratulations MN, ArA is without question now one of the most effective & proven supplements you can buy. Great to see it validated again by science in a clinical study. Well done, look forward to the publishing of the study


  29. Ordered two of the XF stacks off NP yesterday. I think I'm going to run it 4 caps XF w/ 2 caps XFA every day for 50 days. Then save the extra bottle of XFA for sometime down the line (probably end up ordering 2 more bottles of XF when I see it go on sale). Such a weird stack though, selling a bottle of XF together with a bottle of XFA.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Such a weird stack though, selling a bottle of XF together with a bottle of XFA.
    Yeah I saw that too, figured they were maybe just trying to clear older stock?

  31. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Ordered two of the XF stacks off NP yesterday. I think I'm going to run it 4 caps XF w/ 2 caps XFA every day for 50 days. Then save the extra bottle of XFA for sometime down the line (probably end up ordering 2 more bottles of XF when I see it go on sale). Such a weird stack though, selling a bottle of XF together with a bottle of XFA.
    Been contemplating adding this to my current kitchen sink stack...

  32. Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachineX View Post

    Been contemplating adding this to my current kitchen sink stack...
    Ara? U should
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  33. Quote Originally Posted by GreenMachineX View Post
    Been contemplating adding this to my current kitchen sink stack...
    Stop contemplating and do it!
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  34. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Stop contemplating and do it!
    quoted for emphasis
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  35. Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeMayan View Post
    Yeah I saw that too, figured they were maybe just trying to clear older stock?
    Goodness knows, doesn't make much sense to me, but a deal is a deal :P

  36. Quote Originally Posted by iThrow View Post
    quoted for emphasis
    JUST DO IT!!!!1!

    Oh wait, we're talking about me... Guess I'll do it then.

  37. Quote Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Goodness knows, doesn't make much sense to me, but a deal is a deal :P
    You stacking lclt too? NP has protocol for dirt cheap at mo as well (from memory tub is around 16$).

  38. Quote Originally Posted by NewAgeMayan View Post
    You stacking lclt too? NP has protocol for dirt cheap at mo as well (from memory tub is around 16$).
    Nope. Done that before. Didn't do much of anything. No GMS either. Probably going to use it with CM. Contemplating if I want to use PA with it, probably not. Sounds like a waste to have the overlap.

  39. I'm going to start Xfactor + Abe + folli on Monday.

    I take it I dose all 6 pre workout with 1g of alcar500 and 3 scoops of glycerGrow. And then another 1g of Alar500 post workout correct?

  40. Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    I'm going to start Xfactor + Abe + folli on Monday.

    I take it I dose all 6 pre workout with 1g of alcar500 and 3 scoops of glycerGrow. And then another 1g of Alar500 post workout correct?
    That works out. I mean, I used to even dose 2g ALCAR before workout (and not split doses) but it's up to you.
  

  
 

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