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Has anyone used any of their products if so what were your thoughts on whichever supplement you used. Saw their promo for 4th of July so just curious!
Thanks guys
Thanks guys
Agreed!No matter if its on sale, you will get more for your money using great topicals like Dermacrine or Formeron (and many others).
Why would you say that? I happen to like the patches. What are you talking about best bank for your buck. I have seem great recovery from the amino patches good sleep from power patches and strength from the test patch. Not sure why people jump to conclusions not to mention it's time released over 8 hours which makes it convenient.Thanks for the replies looks like I'll stay clear of that
I guess I shouldn't have jump to conclusions. But I wouldn't mind trying out the beta alanine when I have a little extra cash.Thanks for the replies looks like I'll stay clear of that[/QUOTE
Why would you say thaet? I happen to like the patches. What are you talking about best bank for your buck. I have seem great recovery from the amino patches good sleep from power patches and strength from the test patch. Not sure why people jump to conclusions not to mention it's time released over 8 hours which makes it convenient.
I use Ageforce patches. I like their weight loss patch with T2 and also their resveratrol patch. But beta alanine absorbs really well when you take it orally on an empty stomach. So for this, I would save the money and buy some bulk BA. The only time I would try something BA patch is if you have some extra money and are short on time. Add one more patch to any other in the morning so you don't have to think about off day loading.I guess I shouldn't have jump to conclusions. But I wouldn't mind trying out the beta alanine when I have a little extra cash.
Going to believe the company rep or from the population of users - my comments are based on many reviews I have seen for AgeForce from folks that know and use other topicals.I guess I shouldn't have jump to conclusions. But I wouldn't mind trying out the beta alanine when I have a little extra cash.
Going to believe the company rep or from the population of users - my comments are based on many reviews I have seen for AgeForce from folks that know and use other topicals.
Listening to both sides. I to have had awesome results with other topicals. It would be hard to sway me from those although I'm open to trying something new although I have read quite a few reviews and people seem to say it's under dosed and is quite pricey. I guess it is convienent though if your unable to carry pills and really are in a jam
lolwhat i took from this thread:
a bunch of guys with less than 50 posts on the forum, who have not figured out how to properly quote a post yet
man, that was tough to look at let alone follow..
So I take it you haven't tried the patches then?Going to believe the company rep or from the population of users - my comments are based on many reviews I have seen for AgeForce from folks that know and use other topicals.
They work, I've used them.I just don't get why someone would make something to not work. I mean if your gonna spend the time and money to start a company and make products, why not make ones that actually work? I mean that's how you make it to the top, not by ripping people off...... Rant rant rant.... Nag nag nag.... Ok I'll shut the **** up now haha
No I have not. I have used pretty much everything else and the good ones multiple times. They seem too expensive and don't have enough positive reviews and from reviewers I trust for me to pull the trigger. btw, I have been on ABM for many years...this is a relatively new user id.So I take it you haven't tried the patches then?
I have used them for many years and wouldn't rep for a product that doesn't work because if that was the case I would be repping for other companies and I can but I choose to rep for age force because I believe in the products and its delivery systemNo I have not. I have used pretty much everything else and the good ones multiple times. They seem too expensive and don't have enough positive reviews and from reviewers I trust for me to pull the trigger. btw, I have been on ABM for many years...this is a relatively new user id.
Is this post 100% factual ?I have used them for many years and wouldn't rep for a product that doesn't work because if that was the case I would be repping for other companies and I can but I choose to rep for age force because I believe in the products and its delivery system
You don't think these patches work?Is this post 100% factual ?
I was referring to the part about himYou don't think these patches work?
I know, just trying to get some possible cool discussion out of you.I was referring to the part about him
Do transdermals work? Yes. But you can't just throw any random compounds into a random delivery vehicle and hope it'll work. Some of the compounds I'm seeing are very, very large molecules that would never cross the dermal layer.I know, just trying to get some possible cool discussion out of you.
Unless there was something to disrupt the stratum corneum correct? Then wouldnt It be possible to pass some larger molecules?Do transdermals work? Yes. But you can't just throw any random compounds into a random delivery vehicle and hope it'll work. Some of the compounds I'm seeing are very, very large molecules that would never cross the dermal layer.
If only AgeForce was licensing someone's microneedle technology their products might actually work.Unless there was something to disrupt the stratum corneum correct? Then wouldnt It be possible to pass some larger molecules?
There are some things you don't need to try to state their non-functionality.Has anyone who is cutting up any and every possible reason why AgeForce patches dont work, actually try them and have them not work?
Yes, the HGH molecule is extremely large and has a high dalton weight. In it's natural state, it cannot be delivered transdermally. However with "molecular engineering" it can be altered for successful transdermal delivery without losing any of the HGH Molecule's nutrient value.Gh is too big to be absorbed td. Even if it wasnt, the patches are not refrigerated so would arrive at your doorstep all broken down into amino acids=worthless. The hgh power patch does help you sleep, but anything could cause that. So being that it cant contain gh, what are they putting in these patches that effect sleep? Who the heck knows. And since they cant be honest and say what the active ingredient is, why would you want to be putting some unknown substance into your body. Just my. 02.
LOL.Yes, the HGH molecule is extremely large and has a high dalton weight. In it's natural state, it cannot be delivered transdermally. However with "molecular engineering" it can be altered for successful transdermal delivery without losing any of the HGH Molecule's nutrient value.
Let's use a 10 pound block of aluminum to represent the HGH molecule, and a front door mail slot of a house as the transdermal passageways of the skin. You obviously could not fit that 10 pound block of aluminum through the front door mail slot. But if you take that 10 pound block of aluminum, and put it through a series of high pressure rollers, you would wind up with a 10 pound roll of aluminum kitchen foil, and you certainly could thread that aluminum kitchen foil through the front door mail slot. Same 10 pounds of aluminum, but the molequles have been restructured.
That is what we do with the HGH molecule in our lab. With proprietary laboratory processes, we restructure the HGH molecule, without losing any of it's nutrient qualities, and in it's new configuration, it can easily transit the skin (derma) and on into the bloodstream.
20mg DAA in the testo patch as well.There are some things you don't need to try to state their non-functionality.
Even with 100% absorption, their patches are hilariously dosed. At 100% absorption, 11mg of leucine is a vanishingly irrelevant blip. Etc...
I have no idea. I am curious though as administration techniques would be used to make it available transdermally but would that reduce the dosage needed to exert its effects?maybe, due to the administration technique, you can get away with microdoses?
hmm, wonder if someone might try putting flavonoids into a patch
You already see some transdermal cremes with non bioavailable flavonids in them.maybe, due to the administration technique, you can get away with microdoses?
hmm, wonder if someone might try putting flavonoids into a patch
Is this serious?! I'm sorry but that seems totally made up.Yes, the HGH molecule is extremely large and has a high dalton weight. In it's natural state, it cannot be delivered transdermally. However with "molecular engineering" it can be altered for successful transdermal delivery without losing any of the HGH Molecule's nutrient value.
Let's use a 10 pound block of aluminum to represent the HGH molecule, and a front door mail slot of a house as the transdermal passageways of the skin. You obviously could not fit that 10 pound block of aluminum through the front door mail slot. But if you take that 10 pound block of aluminum, and put it through a series of high pressure rollers, you would wind up with a 10 pound roll of aluminum kitchen foil, and you certainly could thread that aluminum kitchen foil through the front door mail slot. Same 10 pounds of aluminum, but the molequles have been restructured.
That is what we do with the HGH molecule in our lab. With proprietary laboratory processes, we restructure the HGH molecule, without losing any of it's nutrient qualities, and in it's new configuration, it can easily transit the skin (derma) and on into the bloodstream.
It seems made up because it is made up.Is this serious?! I'm sorry but that seems totally made up.