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    Need a new pre-workout...which one?


    Looking for energy (not jittery), pump, (yes, I'm guilty) and creatine mono (or effective blend). What is a good one?



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    Look into Olympus Labs CONQU3R brother
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    Obviously im bias but check out HyperMax, has really powerful but clean energy and focus, if your taking 1.5-2 scoops your getting 750-1000mg Agmatine so pumps should be pretty damn good and at 2 scoops you get 3g blend of MCC and Creatine Mono, should be plenty!
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    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/o...-servings.html

    Gets my vote based on your wants.

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    ^^^ He knows

    Has everything you're looking for with a full 5g of Creatine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/olympus-labs-conqu3r-watermelon-20-servings.html

    Gets my vote based on your wants.

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    Any health concerns with that much agmatine? I got kids..I need to be around for a long time.



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    If you're at all hesitant just run it at 3/4 dose. It'll also last longer like that
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    Curious about Admin's stim tolerance... and general response to yohimbine? Only bc it's sadly become popular in pre's these days...just wondering...

    Edit: Bioshock, you might look into...2 scoops plus 25mg eph or 1,3 treats me pretty well...pumps and creatine included...
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    Last time I used Yohimbine was Adipokenetix. Good stuff back then.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Last time I used Yohimbine was Adipokenetix. Good stuff back then.
    Little red buttons, right? Syntrax? I used that as well, good times...
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    Red yellow caps, foil in the bottle. Good packaging too..lol



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    I'd recommend Max Out, it'll give you plenty of energy and probably going to be the best pumps from a preworkout, but you have to add your own creatine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Red yellow caps, foil in the bottle. Good packaging too..lol
    Interesting, wonder if that was a later version...I used it. Along with several of their other supps like their gugglesterone product back around '96ish...
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    CONQU3R for sure, we'll have more samples in two weeks as well, but with an open profile like that you can already guess what you're in for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    I'd recommend Max Out, it'll give you plenty of energy and probably going to be the best pumps from a preworkout, but you have to add your own creatine
    Isn't that a late July release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Isn't that a late July release?
    last i saw was july 17th...maybe it was the 7th
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    I agree with the guys that said conqu3r. Love that stuff and you get the full dose of staples like creatine!
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    Our preworkout "Quake" is on sale at orbit nutrition right now for just over $20. Or..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    Shoot me a message and I'll get you hooked up with some Hypermax samples so you can give that a shot free of charge!
    I can try anything free of charge...

    ....but I don't...conflict of interest. But thanks for the offer!



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    Anything free of charge, nice!
    What pre's have you used/enjoyed in the most recent past?
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    OP is clearly a troll, there are 10 million threads on this subject. Use the search function pal!

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    I like pre-workouts that are more subtle and not stim heavy, I'd recommend CL White Flood Reborn, SNS Focus XT, or Fitmax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    I can try anything free of charge...

    ....but I don't...conflict of interest. But thanks for the offer!
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    I like Hypermax. It gives a nice, clean, long lasting energy and focus with no crash. Only 1.5 scoops is needed for me and I am pretty tolerant to stims. The pump with it is nice as well. I think it tastes like Bubbleyum, other users have reported a flavor like Smarties hard candy.
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    Right now I am loving CONQU3R, the flavor and pumps are insane. The stim factor is good energy with great focus but far from over bearing. Flavor one of the best I have tasted.

    Others I have tried recently and enjoyed WMD, has nice stim and great pumps, good flavor. For lower stim and good endurance EVOL was pretty good too. You wanna speed then LeCheek SpeedX3. Also had some pretty good workouts from Prodigy but never liked the flavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Looking for energy (not jittery), pump, (yes, I'm guilty) and creatine mono (or effective blend). What is a good one?
    Conquer or Bioshock are good options.

    Stim free options are also good then just add caffeine tabs to suit your need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Conquer or Bioshock are good options. Stim free options are also good then just add caffeine tabs to suit your need.
    bioshocks on my to try list
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    Agreed, conqu3r! And the watermelon tastes pretty good too
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    bioshocks on my to try list
    At two servings I absolutely love it. Probably my absolute favorite all around pre, which really says a lot as Ive tried so damn many lol.

    Surprised there isnt more talk about it on the forums between the formula and the well established guys running the company.
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    im looking forward to Max Out but there are several good products around right now.
    I really enjoyed Stimaholic and always recommend katana.
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    Katana has been treating me well lately. I add an extra 2 caps of AmentoMax to it as well which bumps the amentoflavone to 80mg. The effects on mood that amentoflavone have on me are unbelieveable...I felt tired and pretty down and out today after work but I slammed a scoop of katana and 2 caps of AmentoMax and I felt like I was on top of the world! Super clean feeling, no jitters, no crash, fades out very smoothly without making you feel burnt out, and PRs hit all around.
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    http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/g...-servings.html Hands down my go 2 pwo of the year. Best stuff I've touched since Craze changed. I have already got 12 people at my gym hooked on this stuff. Taste is amazing and kicks in very quick.
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    The ingredients on CONQU3R add up to 22.01 grams. The scoop size is 22 grams.

    The servings per container is 20. The total weight of the container is listed at 440.2 grams.

    I'm curious how you get that watermelon and fruit punch flavoring when there is apparently zero flavoring, coloring or additives whatsoever in this product?

    If the tubs actually weigh in at 440.2 grams that's a pretty demonstrably false label. I'm just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    The ingredients on CONQU3R add up to 22.01 grams. The scoop size is 22 grams.

    The servings per container is 20. The total weight of the container is listed at 440.2 grams.

    I'm curious how you get that watermelon and fruit punch flavoring when there is apparently zero flavoring, coloring or additives whatsoever in this product?

    If the tubs actually weigh in at 440.2 grams that's a pretty demonstrably false label. I'm just saying.
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    Metabolic Bioshock is great stuff, If you're in search of more stims than are included, I'd just buy some bulk AMP or DMAA caps and add those in.
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    No thanks. I'm going to try to support those who support here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    Looking for energy (not jittery), pump, (yes, I'm guilty) and creatine mono (or effective blend). What is a good one?
    Core Fury
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    Or throw in a non-stim like Hemavol/high Volume with the stims above or potassium nitrate.

    first 4 contain creatine, Katana I have found alone to be superior for pumps as a stand alone, you could always add in bulk monohydrate because of how cheap it is.
    Conqu3r has adequate agmatine, creatine, and is a bit higher in caffeine, so it may be too much to take a full dose
    Psycho has a decent big boom blend, c4 has nitrates (great for pumps), fury has a good dose of Citrulline + Nootropics (to aid energy and not real jittery)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Admin View Post
    No thanks. I'm going to try to support those who support here.
    Among company sponsors or store sponsors? I'm sure metabolic bioshock is sold in some store that's sponsored here isn't it?

    Honestly most of the company sponsors here don't have comprehensive preworkout products that would include an effective dose of creatine, and stims, and pump ingredients. Since most companies have broken it down into multiple products to diffuse price increases.

    Personally, I settle on a price per workout I'm willing to pay and try to find the best combinations of products that can work within that

    at $2/workout I ended up with:

    -Metabolic Bioshock

    Using two products I find high volume to be about the best bang for its buck pump product around at $1.20/serving, and the following preworkouts that are more stim oriented and also have creatine would stay under $2/workout:

    -Jack3d Advanced
    -Conquer
    -EVOL
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    -Focus XT + SNS Bulk Creatine
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