ECY+...?

[Qonix]

I started my cutting 3 weeks ago but I lost just 1lb till now..
This is weird cause I always have this routine (nutrition, training, supplements) while cutting and I usually have great results.

A few months ago i found my prolactine level very high amd after a bottle of Inhibit-P the situation was a bit better.. still very high but better.. plus I was in bulking and I noticed less fat gains than usual.

Could my "poor cutting" depend by this?

I'm curremtly running 75mg ephedrine hcl+600mg caffeine+15mg yohembine hcl, daily.
Do you guy suggest to add Inhibit-P to this stack?
I've also heard very good stuff about erase. Should I add this too to the stack?


thx

 

[Driven2lift]

I would double check your diet, if it really is dialled in you should be losing fat.

Erase Pro helped me losing some stubborn final weight, or if you think you are holding water you could try

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/ironflex-supplements-formabolic.html

That will set up a favourable environment for fat-loss and shed water weight quick

 

[Qonix]

I would double check your diet, if it really is dialled in you should be losing fat.

Erase Pro helped me losing some stubborn final weight, or if you think you are holding water you could try

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/ironflex-supplements-formabolic.html

That will set up a favourable environment for fat-loss and shed water weight quick

I'm pretty sure the diet is fine..
lowered again 200kcal, hope to see some weight loss now.. I'm also pretty sure I havent a lot of water retention..

do you know if the ecy and erase is a good stack?

 

[Driven2lift]

I'm pretty sure the diet is fine.. lowered again 200kcal, hope to see some weight loss now.. I'm also pretty sure I havent a lot of water retention.. do you know if the ecy and erase is a good stack?

Erase would be a good addition, any non stimmed options would be good.

Erase, Reduce XT, Forskolin stacks very well with ephedrine/yohimbe

 

[Aleksandar37]

It never hurts to double or triple check your diet numbers as something seems to be very off with this cut.I've never used Inhibit-P, but it has received great reviews over the years and if it worked for you before, give it another shot.As for Erase, it goes just fine with ECY or ECA stacks. Any idea what BF% you are currently at?

 

[warbird01]

Just lower cals. Your maintenance probably changed.

 

[ax1]

Maybe your leptin levels are taking a hit....Id consider taking a 2-3 week diet break and just eat at maintenance or very slightly above (even if you gain a pound or two) and then crush the fat later on.

 

[Qonix]

It never hurts to double or triple check your diet numbers as something seems to be very off with this cut.I've never used Inhibit-P, but it has received great reviews over the years and if it worked for you before, give it another shot.As for Erase, it goes just fine with ECY or ECA stacks. Any idea what BF% you are currently at?

im about 9-10%.. Goal is 6-7 till september.
Thinking to stack erase and inhibit p with ecy... What you think?

I was done lean bulking 3 weeks ago at 2600kcal, dropped 200kcal every time my weekly weight stopped. Now at 1900

 

[Qonix]

Maybe your leptin levels are taking a hit....Id consider taking a 2-3 week diet break and just eat at maintenance or very slightly above (even if you gain a pound or two) and then crush the fat later on.

I always have a cheat day per week.. my leptin level should be fine

 

[mase1]

Diet is perfect, lost 1lb in 3 weeks. You answered your own issue.

 

[Qonix]

Diet is perfect, lost 1lb in 3 weeks. You answered your own issue.

1lb in 3 weeks isn't much.. i should drop 0.5-0.75 per week

 

[mase1]

You are already 10%, you don't need to jump on the next supplement. Just readjust macros and your training.

 

[SwolenONE]

x2 on the diet, the recommendation for an AI like erase and if you add any other fat burners make sure it's stim free (something like dcp 2 or lean xtreme).

I found the original erase to really help my last cut more than I anticipated.

 

[Qonix]

Since 1900kcal i have dropped just 1lb but its visible!
i will get a bottle of inhibit-p and erase pro next week..
still have a couple months of cutting, would you suggest to run them together or not? If not, which one first? Keep on mind I will still be on ecy till end of my cut

 

[Qonix]

Since 1900kcal i have dropped just 1lb but its visible!
i will get a bottle of inhibit-p and erase pro next week..
still have a couple months of cutting, would you suggest to run them together or not? If not, which one first? Keep on mind I will still be on ecy till end of my cut

Anyone?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

"lean bulking" @2600cals?
cutting @1900cals...and, this is after lowering at least 1-2x in "cut" mode already... really?
@6' tall (if that info is accurate), while I have no clue what you weigh, something looks off....

 

[Qonix]

"lean bulking" @2600cals?cutting @1900cals...and, this is after lowering at least 1-2x in "cut" mode already... really?@6' tall (if that info is accurate), while I have no clue what you weigh, something looks off....

Weight doesn't mean anything. There are 6' fitness competitors at 155lbs.btw I'm 170lbs now and those kcals are what works best for me. I just increase/decrease when I find a stuck point

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Weight doesn't mean anything.....those kcals are what works best for me. I just increase/decrease when I find a stuck point

splitting hairs, but then that terminology would rather be "recomp" and not defined as lean bulk/cutting, no?

and correct - weight does not mean anything in this equation - relative to itself.. but, as in your other thread, a probing for more information is a point in helping you out, both in your personal understanding and in application as well....

once again - if you think you have all the answers, then why bother posting these threads or asking for help at all?

There are 6' fitness competitors at 155lbs.

yeah, you are right -- but I try not to refer to the women when discussing things with a man....




look, you are on very low cals, taking a fat-burner, and still 9-10% bf?
the issue does not lie in some magical combination of supplements....
try getting a better grip on nutrition, or alternatively troubleshoot the activity level you maintain

 

[crowbar46]

6' and 170lbs. and you're trying to "cut"--cut what? You don't have enough muscle on your frame to keep your metabolism going at a decent rate. You're adrenal system is likely taking a hard hit from the ephedrine+caffeine, and once you burn out your adrenal system good luck loosing body fat.

My suggestion: stop the irrational fear of a little body fat gain and put some damn muscle on your frame! That will do more to speed fat loss than these over-the-top cutting routines.

Crowbar

 

[Qonix]

splitting hairs, but then that terminology would rather be "recomp" and not defined as lean bulk/cutting, no?

and correct - weight does not mean anything in this equation - relative to itself.. but, as in your other thread, a probing for more information is a point in helping you out, both in your personal understanding and in application as well....

once again - if you think you have all the answers, then why bother posting these threads or asking for help at all?


yeah, you are right -- but I try not to refer to the women when discussing things with a man....




look, you are on very low cals, taking a fat-burner, and still 9-10% bf?
the issue does not lie in some magical combination of supplements....
try getting a better grip on nutrition, or alternatively troubleshoot the activity level you maintain

christian guzman a couple years ago competed at 155 or something like that.. I wouldn't consider him "a girl", but this depends by your goal..
If you just want to argue looking about all my topics etc.. it's up to you my friend.

 

[Qonix]

6' and 170lbs. and you're trying to "cut"--cut what? You don't have enough muscle on your frame to keep your metabolism going at a decent rate. You're adrenal system is likely taking a hard hit from the ephedrine+caffeine, and once you burn out your adrenal system good luck loosing body fat.

My suggestion: stop the irrational fear of a little body fat gain and put some damn muscle on your frame! That will do more to speed fat loss than these over-the-top cutting routines.

Crowbar

you might be right but I like to stay as low in bf as possible.. wouldn't go above 9-10%.
I still have some love handles fat and that's what I hate most.. once I get rid of all that fat I can lean bulk but still.. I go for quality not size