Black lion. Follidrone. Worth it?

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  1. Brundel, I'm on my 7th day of Follidrone, stuffs amazing. I did a cardio class yesterday which I haven't done in 6 weeks, I didn't run or do any kind of cardio in those 6 weeks, all I did was lift. I was able to do a 12% incline on the treadmill at 7.0 speed at 1 minute intervals, then ground work. To my amazement I burned 1275 calories in 1 hour (we have heart monitors that display our calories and averages on a big TV screen). I thought I would really die in this class especially for the fact I missed 6 weeks, but I held my own. I'm 5'9 200 lbs, 10% fat and I'm 45 yrs old. I have also been on Viron for 2 weeks now and Formeron for months. Follidrone is a whole new animal.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    I don't think I've seen one review yet by someone who's used Follidrone and WASN'T satisfied with it.
    I just want to see some photos. I think everyone logging should have to provide before after pics
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I just want to see some photos. I think everyone logging should have to provide before after pics
    Most of the logs are unsponsored, so I wouldn't say people HAVE to provide anything...but it would be a plus.

  4. Everyone who enters the transformation contest will need to provide before and after for judging.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    I just want to see some photos. I think everyone logging should have to provide before after pics
    You seem to be one of the most negative and skeptical people on the forum when it comes to BLR, any reason?
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  6. It's legitimate. No one has any reason to lie or exaggerate, but pics can help paint a picture better. That is why they are required for the contest.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    You seem to be one of the most negative and skeptical people on the forum when it comes to BLR, any reason?
    Pics may create MORE demand...could be a good thing

  8. I can see pics causing 1000 bottles to be sold in 5 minutes instead of 10.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    It's legitimate.
    the thing is there're too many people, from Countries all over the world quite honestly, which have now reported virtually the same results.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Pics may create MORE demand...could be a good thing
    Not for us consumers when its never in stock :P

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    the thing is there're too many people, from Countries all over the world quite honestly, which have now reported virtually the same results.
    Oh, I know that and like I said, no one has any reason to lie about it. Just that pics can help that 1 or 2 people still on the fence (lol) to get in line.

  12. I am starting my folli log in 2 days. I will post before/after pics in the 12 week duration (possibly longer), but will post pics every 4 weeks

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    You seem to be one of the most negative and skeptical people on the forum when it comes to BLR, any reason?

    You seem like a defender of follidrone and I don't think fightbackhxc has been negative at all towards BLR. He is just skeptical which it seems you turn around and twist into saying he is negative. Any reason why you defend follidrone so much?. How long have you been taking supplements?. How long have you been immersed in the supplement industry?. What is your background in this area?.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    You seem like a defender of follidrone and I don't think fightbackhxc has been negative at all towards BLR. He is just skeptical which it seems you turn around and twist into saying he is negative. Any reason why you defend follidrone so much?. How long have you been taking supplements?. How long have you been immersed in the supplement industry?. What is your background in this area?.
    It just seems in every BLR thread he seems to be extremely skeptical, almost offputting.

    I realise the point you are trying to make about a lot of supplements have hype and good marketing and end up being duds, so scepticism is completely founded, he just seems to constantly voice his scepticism on multiple occasions which I feel doesnt helps anyone out.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    It just seems in every BLR thread he seems to be extremely skeptical, almost offputting. I realise the point you are trying to make about a lot of supplements have hype and good marketing and end up being duds, so scepticism is completely founded, he just seems to constantly voice his scepticism on multiple occasions which I feel doesnt helps anyone out.
    Your obsessed with BLR and Riding Brundells nuts. Lol

    It annoys me to keep seeing all of your posts.
    GTFO, go join evo or bb.com

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Peppers View Post
    Your obsessed with BLR and Riding Brundells nuts. Lol

    It annoys me to keep seeing all of your posts.
    GTFO, go join evo or bb.com
    Nawwww look, its the little keyboard warrior again, how cute. No friends to play with in the real world? poor baby

  17. Josh, you are the one raving about folli and you have not even taken it yet. Just listen to the owner of the company, why would he lie. Get some versa-1 while you are at it.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mase1 View Post
    Josh, you are the one raving about folli and you have not even taken it yet. Just listen to the owner of the company, why would he lie. Get some versa-1 while you are at it.
    I haven't ever raved or at the same time discredited it. I am yet to pass judgement. All I have done is show my excitement for the product and told people not to flame it who themselves haven't taken it yet

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Peppers View Post
    Your obsessed with BLR and Riding Brundells nuts. Lol

    It annoys me to keep seeing all of your posts.
    GTFO, go join evo or bb.com
    What annoys me is seeing everyone riding Coops, PES, Evo, and SNS nuts. It's annoying how if Coop approves a supplement, it must be awesome. Nothing against him. He's a sharp dude but dam get off his nuts already. Same with Dsade or any product he puts out. Nothing against either of them. I've used both of their products but **** is ridiculous. Perfect example is when Folli and Myo came out, Coop said Myo is more well round than Folli cuz of the extra stuff so everyone riding his nuts went and purchased Myo without questioning it. Folli works awesome without the extra goodies yet it's placebo so his nuthuggers won't touch it.

    I understand that I might look like I'm nuthugging Brundel, but let's face it, Follidrone works dam well on it's own. I have jumped on ever hype train that's been started here on AM. I've jumped on a lot of insider deals and new releases that were hyped up here at AM only to be disappointed. I've have used a lot of hyped up stacks that are currently recommended here and none have produced the results that Follidrone alone has produced. All I did was throw away a bunch of cash.

    There's no point going over to BB.com cuz the same nuthuggers are there too.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Brundel, I'm on my 7th day of Follidrone, stuffs amazing. I did a cardio class yesterday which I haven't done in 6 weeks, I didn't run or do any kind of cardio in those 6 weeks, all I did was lift. I was able to do a 12% incline on the treadmill at 7.0 speed at 1 minute intervals, then ground work. To my amazement I burned 1275 calories in 1 hour (we have heart monitors that display our calories and averages on a big TV screen). I thought I would really die in this class especially for the fact I missed 6 weeks, but I held my own. I'm 5'9 200 lbs, 10% fat and I'm 45 yrs old. I have also been on Viron for 2 weeks now and Formeron for months. Follidrone is a whole new animal.
    Good stuff bro.
    Yah when you start to get over 40 test levels play a huge role in things.
    Formeron and Viron will really work to keep test up.
    Follidrone is likely the reason for the added endurance as you have probably seen in logs and reviews.

    Im certainly a formeron junkie. Its very good stuff.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by grocker View Post
    What annoys me is seeing everyone riding Coops, PES, Evo, and SNS nuts. It's annoying how if Coop approves a supplement, it must be awesome. Nothing against him. He's a sharp dude but dam get off his nuts already. Same with Dsade or any product he puts out. Nothing against either of them. I've used both of their products but **** is ridiculous. Perfect example is when Folli and Myo came out, Coop said Myo is more well round than Folli cuz of the extra stuff so everyone riding his nuts went and purchased Myo without questioning it. Folli works awesome without the extra goodies yet it's placebo so his nuthuggers won't touch it. I understand that I might look like I'm nuthugging Brundel, but let's face it, Follidrone works dam well on it's own. I have jumped on ever hype train that's been started here on AM. I've jumped on a lot of insider deals and new releases that were hyped up here at AM only to be disappointed. I've have used a lot of hyped up stacks that are currently recommended here and none have produced the results that Follidrone alone has produced. All I did was throw away a bunch of cash. There's no point going over to BB.com cuz the same nuthuggers are there too.
    I'm not saying BLR products aren't legit.
    I have SNS products, BLR, Finaflex, Vital labs, LGI, CEL, etc etc etc in my cabinet. I don't care what company makes a product, as long as it's legit.

    This guy is just annoying, bottom line.
    Brundell started his threads on his products to answer questions consumers may have. Sure all of us members of AM can chime in, but damn.

  22. If you guys dont have anything to contribute or anything polite to say go start a thread of your own and insult each other.
    We are trying to have a conversation without being derailed by nonsense.
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  23. I will try folli one day when expenses allow it, waiting for my third baby now, lol. Can't disagree with all of the positive logs, just a little over board with hype. Don't have to sell me your opinion, just it works great on endurance and added some weight, all I need to hear.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    If you guys dont have anything to contribute or anything polite to say go start a thread of your own and insult each other. We are trying to have a conversation without being derailed by nonsense.
    I agree.

    Sometimes people tend to talk about non sense like if their getting paid or gaining something from it.

    I hate when they clog up threads and I have to scroll down pages just to get real info.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Joshlm69 View Post
    It just seems in every BLR thread he seems to be extremely skeptical, almost offputting.

    I realise the point you are trying to make about a lot of supplements have hype and good marketing and end up being duds, so scepticism is completely founded, he just seems to constantly voice his scepticism on multiple occasions which I feel doesnt helps anyone out.
    A lot of the skepticism over new supplements comes down to two general archetypes of people around forums.

    The Scientist and the Practitioner.

    Compare forum response to the following two things:

    1). (-)-epicatechin, which has no placebo controlled human trials whatsoever and is being marketed solely on theoretical and anecdotal evidence. The one non-placebo controlled human study was fully funded by the pharmaceutical company that has patents on (-)-epicatechin and is currently recruiting for another human study. But the user reports have been outstanding indicating incredible results.

    The Practitioners love it and say you can't argue with all of these awesome anecdotal results that every user is reporting.
    The scientist says slow the **** down lets get some real evidence.

    2). HMB Free-Acid, which has a recent placebo-controlled peer reviewed human trial clearly demonstrating an overwhelmingly beneficial outcome in both strength and lean body mass, as well as multiple other recent human trials, and multiple other forthcoming published papers.

    Practitioners say these results are insane and impossible because anecdotally they've never experienced or seen those kinds of results.
    Science people say, but the study was well-designed and appears to control for all of the relevant variables, so the results are what they are.

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    Neither camp of people is inherently wrong in their beliefs.

    Practitioners have been burned by numerous novel ingredients that lacked clinical evidence but had lots of positive 'beta test' reviews.

    Scientists have been burned by numerous ingredients where the clinical studies indicated they would work, but the result didn't carry over to the masses in uncontrolled settings.

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    Just some thoughts on why these sorts of debates and skepticism happen revolving around every single new ingredient that shows up in the industry.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by brundel View Post
    If you guys dont have anything to contribute or anything polite to say go start a thread of your own and insult each other.We are trying to have a conversation without being derailed by nonsense.
    Yes, you're right. Sorry. I apologize for that rant.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by mase1 View Post
    I will try folli one day when expenses allow it, waiting for my third baby now, lol. Can't disagree with all of the positive logs, just a little over board with hype. Don't have to sell me your opinion, just it works great on endurance and added some weight, all I need to hear.
    People giving their experience and providing workout logs should not be misconstrued as hype. If people are saying it works better than anything they have tried, that is their experience and very valid at that.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    A lot of the skepticism over new supplements comes down to two general archetypes of people around forums.

    The Scientist and the Practitioner.

    Compare forum response to the following two things:

    1). (-)-epicatechin, which has no placebo controlled human trials whatsoever and is being marketed solely on theoretical and anecdotal evidence. The one non-placebo controlled human study was fully funded by the pharmaceutical company that has patents on (-)-epicatechin and is currently recruiting for another human study. But the user reports have been outstanding indicating incredible results.

    The Practitioners love it and say you can't argue with all of these awesome anecdotal results that every user is reporting.
    The scientist says slow the **** down lets get some real evidence.

    2). HMB Free-Acid, which has a recent placebo-controlled peer reviewed human trial clearly demonstrating an overwhelmingly beneficial outcome in both strength and lean body mass, as well as multiple other recent human trials, and multiple other forthcoming published papers.

    Practitioners say these results are insane and impossible because anecdotally they've never experienced or seen those kinds of results.
    Science people say, but the study was well-designed and appears to control for all of the relevant variables, so the results are what they are.

    --

    Neither camp of people is inherently wrong in their beliefs.

    Practitioners have been burned by numerous novel ingredients that lacked clinical evidence but had lots of positive 'beta test' reviews.

    Scientists have been burned by numerous ingredients where the clinical studies indicated they would work, but the result didn't carry over to the masses in uncontrolled settings.

    --

    Just some thoughts on why these sorts of debates and skepticism happen revolving around every single new ingredient that shows up in the industry.
    I think we get where you are coming from. Just hope those scientists hurry with their research to tell us what we are finding out on our own.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by grocker View Post
    Yes, you're right. Sorry. I apologize for that rant.
    Wasnt really pointed at you but I appreciate you helping us keep our discussions polite and intelligent.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    I think we get where you are coming from. Just hope those scientists hurry with their research to tell us what we are finding out on our own.
    I have been in contact with the authors of 2 studies currently underway.
    1 for MS and 1 for Sarcopenia.
    THings look pretty positive although only one of them is being 100% open with results. The other is hinting at things but with a wink wink at the end.
    Soon.....there will be ALOT of viable research available regarding both muscle mass accumulation and strength increases.
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