- 05-17-2014, 05:55 PM
What's good everyone.
I just started using (non-caffeinated). I'm not sensitive to caffeine at all, but. I can only lift at 6 earliest and gotta be up at 6 next morning. Anyone elsewhere like non-caffeinated PW's? Or even better; what about PW's that have the least amount of caffeine?
I gotta double check the amount of caffeine in C4, but people say that C4 ain't too bad on keeping you up. I do somewhat agree on that.
Is anyone using other good ones? Recommendations?
- 05-17-2014, 05:57 PM
to name a few, there's a million others"if there's one thing women love, it's a vascular man" - stewie griffin
- 05-17-2014, 06:12 PM
You can put a lot of stuff together to make your own stim free preworkouts.
I personally love Caffein Free Focus XT + Agmatine. Great price too.
Then thrown in some Cit Mal if you want.
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05-17-2014, 06:17 PM
05-17-2014, 06:22 PM
I'm running white pump right now and it's a solid product, taste is decent but it could be better.
Heard great things about High Volume, and that would definitely be another one worth looking at. SNS has a Stim Free Focus product that a lot of people enjoy stacking with other non stim pres (like High Volume).
05-17-2014, 06:41 PM
I'm getting ready for a stim break and I'm probably going for High Volume (and probably potassium nitrate too).
05-17-2014, 06:46 PM
Thanks TJ. Warbird I give you props for that. Interesting. Personally I leave work at 5 pm, get in my car and throw a scoop of [insert PW] and drive to the gym. Anyone else in a situation like that? It sounds like a cop-out but convenience is huge for me.
05-17-2014, 06:49 PM
Jakey... You bring up a point I was thinking about. Taking a "stim" break...would you still use a "stim-free" pre-workout drink? It seems like it defeats the purpose. I'm asking tho cuz I'm def mentally addicted to PW's.
05-17-2014, 07:21 PM
D-Ribose - 5,000mg(5g)
Creatine Hydrochloride (HCl) - 3,000mg (3g)
Creatinol-O-Phosphate - 2,500mg (2.5g)
Beta-alanine - 2,000mg (2g)
Leucine - 2,000mg (2g)
Citrulline Malate - 2,000mg (2g)
Agmatine Sulfate - 1,000mg (1g)
Electrolyte Blend - 150mg
I personally believe this is the blood of mythical gods.
05-18-2014, 01:37 AM
Focus xt caff. Free version
Add bulk agmatine or nitrates for even more pump.
05-18-2014, 03:06 AM
High volume for pumps and performance, stim-free focus XT for focus
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
05-18-2014, 04:02 AM
1 scoop Caffeine Free Focus XT
1 G Agmatine
6-9 G Citrulline Malate
I get pumps from that when sitting down typing lol. Try it out, you'll like. For a little extra fun drink down the CM and Agmatine with half a Gatorade. I know, I know, people are terrified of sugar but it'll do well by you, promise
Dose is important with CM, a lot of formulated pre's don't have enough for my liking which is why I go bulk. SNS bulk products are G2G, OP
05-18-2014, 05:07 AM
^^ this guy knows his stuff that's for sure.
I'll buck the trend and say go for Amentomax (love this stuff), COP, Nitrates (KNO3 is good) and Focus XT (stim free).
If you're looking for something pre formulated, High Volume or White Pump + COP and Amentomax would be awesome.
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05-18-2014, 06:17 AM
Anyways most take stim breaks to reduce their tolerance to the stims so no reason to avoid a non stim pre workout. If you think your are addicted to them then you may want to re evaluate their use (stims can be hard to drop though so I feel you on that).
As far as choices either grabbing some bulks like Citrulline, Agmatine, Anmentoflavone, TMG/Betaine, or Nitrates. Personally I think the White Pump or High Volume and Amentomax combo would be tough to beat for a stim free pump and performance pre.
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05-18-2014, 06:52 AM
I like the love for White Pump in here. It'd be a great option. I've got to add MN's PeakBeta+ onto the list of others as well.
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05-18-2014, 07:16 AM
there was another I liked by man sports but the name is escaping me.. was it game day or something?>
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05-18-2014, 07:38 AM
05-18-2014, 10:50 AM
05-18-2014, 11:07 AM
Caffeine free Focus XT if you're looking for something that may help with mind-muscle-connection and "feel good" effects.
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05-18-2014, 11:09 AM
05-18-2014, 11:15 AM
Muslce Feast Ingite 2.0 has a very solid profile.
Is a non prop blend and contains significant doses of Citrulline, TMG, BA, Agamatine, Leucine, Tyrosine and electrolytes.
05-18-2014, 12:13 PM
My favorite non stim pre workout is iForce Hemavol. Another great option is MAN Sports Body Octane. You cannot go wrong with either one.
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05-18-2014, 12:15 PM
05-18-2014, 12:16 PM
Hemavol and Potassium Nitrate would be the best things for non stim'd pre workouts
ppl can also build their own by using bulk products but i know for me, i don't tend to want to have six bottles all over my shelf just to build a preworkout
05-18-2014, 12:23 PM
High Volume + Amentomax + TMG + Nitrate
05-18-2014, 05:44 PM
05-18-2014, 08:46 PM
Caffeine free Focus XT + Iforce Potassium Nitrate
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05-18-2014, 09:16 PM
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05-18-2014, 09:20 PM
05-19-2014, 09:20 AM
When I do stim breaks I use Hemavol and KNO3.
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05-19-2014, 02:11 PM
05-19-2014, 03:13 PM
05-19-2014, 03:20 PM
05-19-2014, 06:26 PM
Peak Beta+, High Volume and Hemavol are some of the best on the market.
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05-19-2014, 06:39 PM
05-23-2014, 10:01 AM
05-23-2014, 10:28 AM
this is my preferite custom pre-wo (no stims):
- agmatine 1g
- norvaline 750mg
- taurine 2g
- L-carnitine L-Tartrate 500mg
- beta alanine 2g
- aakg 1g
if i need stims I just add caffeine and yohimbine.
What's do you think?
05-23-2014, 12:13 PM
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