And it's not that bad a price either compared to that Biotest crap. Is anyone thinking of running this? I'm thinking this + myosynergy or follidrone would be pretty nice.
It really isn't.
Yeah, I'm very surprised by this inclusion of PA. I was expecting a very mediocre line tbh
The inclusion of the L aspartic acid in their T booster is a little odd. Its the D isomer you want.
I also think it's in their creatine sell as well.
Clear Muscle logs should start in a week, can't wait.
Exactly. The L isomer needs to be flipped to the D to get the desired effect.
Exclusive licensing isn't nearly as lucrative. Probably realized it and changed his/her mind
Wasn't there already a Cutler something brand?
Not that I recall. Cutler used to be with MT I believe but he didn't have his own brand.
Yeah there was. EXT was the original one "made for Jay" but then he came out with his own line under BPI which was white and black then they regarded it again under the black and purple.
Supposedly I was making steroid talk (I really wasn't, someone was trying to compare HMB data with AAS data, I was just pointing out how this was nonsensical since training protocols, etc. needs to be the same for both types of studies in order to be able to properly meta-analyze the studies). Can't start posting in my log until the 21st. Smh. Oh well. There you are lol. King is definitely stirring the pot and getting the discussion started. Looking forward to more feedback on thisbb.com just temp banned me
I was really surprised how BPI more or less didn't try to push King harder prior to me finding the darn product listed as coming soon over on the other site and then posting about it. Out of the entire Cutler series and even the entire BPI line currently, King is arguably the most noteworthy.
Dug into this PA and inflammation thing. Looks like PA is an important regulator for systemic inflammation. Though I don't think that this is directly why one would supplement it preworkout for the purpose of muscle building though.
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Yeah buddy! Would be interesting to see if ArA compliments the PA or if there's a ceiling to mTOR activation. Next gen crazy natty stacks, lol.Have some on the way to run after MysoSynergy
Absolutely. running ArA and Myo right now and am so sore it's unbelievable haha. This year is really shaping up to be a big one for the supplement industry.
I like itAbsolutely. running ArA and Myo right now and am so sore it's unbelievable haha. This year is really shaping up to be a big one for the supplement industry.
Our new ArA study will be published in July, and right around the time it hits you'll see ArA products exploding onto the scene left and right
I also like the new ArA price points
BB.com is strict on AAS talk. It cant be discussed no matter what side of the fence you sit on.I'm receiving a bottle from BPI to run (thanks Fugitive if you're reading this). I'm almost done with my second bottle of Micro-PA and about to start on my third bottle. I will run King after I finish my next bottle of Micro-PA.
Obviously I will see if there's any noticeable drop offs (if there is then there may either be a dosing difference that the label would not be reflecting or maybe Biotest's emulsifying whatever adds something to the bioavailibility of PA). I'm suspecting that there will not be any drop offs as both products provides the 750 mg's of Mediator PA. Would be interesting if the herbs and Niagen in King will bring anything noticeable to the table. Also, not logging the product (I opted out of logging) but will give my impressions on the King product.
In general though, I'm a fan of PA and currently, King is the best value for PA available on the market. I'll break down the costs here:
Micro-PA by Biotest - 20 days supply for $50
MaxxxTOR by Max Muscle (never heard of them) - 21 day supply for $85 (this product also contains leucine and HMB, but I doubt that there's all that much HMB in the product so the 3.3 gram proprietary blend is going to be the 750 mg's of Mediator PA + mostly leucine)
King by BPI - 30 day supply for $40 and it contains Niagen and some other curious herbs (apart from PA, we don't know how everything else is dosed, plus I don't think anybody know if 1) Niagen does anything or 2) what the efficacious dose of Niagen should be).
bb.com just temp banned me
Probably some sort of timed exclusive deal would be my guess.
Seeing how I've been unbanned, it would appear to have been a mistake on their part
They basically banned everyone on that thread but later lifted the bans.If you followed that thread before half the posts were removed, it would have been blatantly obvious that we were not discussing the use of AAS. It's basically as if someone just searched for the word steroid or AAS and deleted/banned people based on the word appearing regardless of context/content.
I think even comparing supps to AAS is rather touchy. I was infracting just for quoting someone who mentioned AAS lolSeeing how I've been unbanned, it would appear to have been a mistake on their part
So BPI owns BPI, Cutler and EXT brands?
As well as image sports, pro nutra & king
I'm running both right now. Too early to tell if there's a synergistic effect.
I'd agree with this, or if you're adding it to a current stack, at minimum have a good feel for the stack one is already on before adding the PA, just so you can have a better idea of what changes, if any, there are.
Perfectly said dook!
I would venture to say ARA. Too many positive logs and results with this compared to PA at this point in time.
Valid question but for a first time user, I think it's best to use one supplement to see how well, if any, your body responds to it.
Tough question to answer TBH.
Well, as you may have caught in my earlier post, I've given the whole LCLT + GMS with my ArA preworkout only protocol a good solid run and did not think highly of it and instead found daily dosing of 1 gram to work out better for myself, I might be an outlier
Great advice, use them all separately and see which works best for you!
