Sleep aids

[dbernardo3]

Wondering if you guys can recommend any good sleep products? Been having trouble falling/staying asleep as well as my recovery been lacking due to it.

 

[Synapsin]

Your best bet is to fix your issue, i.e. remove the stress etc. Look into improving your sleep hygiene. If you are looking for a supplement, look into either melatonin or phenibut (but only use the phenibut sparingly). Just don't forget fixing your sleep is important and you shouldn't take a band-aid solution to fix it (I like to use my phenibut sparingly when I know I'm going to have trouble sleeping that night).

 

[tyga tyga]

Wondering if you guys can recommend any good sleep products? Been having trouble falling/staying asleep as well as my recovery been lacking due to it.

Sleephoria by evomuse
Or plain phenibut

 

[veaderko]

Melatonin
Lights Out
Intimidate SRT (works for me)
Minerals

Those are all ones I have tried and like.

 

[Young Gotti]

Lights out
Intimidate Srt
G8
Camomile Tea

I know Vaughn posted Binaural Beats on his FB last night and said it helps him with sleep, I'm going to try that coming up soon

 

[mw1]

Growth Factor xt would be my #1 choice

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I see G8 has already been mentioned (thanks for that btw)..
honestly, best stuff I ever used, and contains the phenibut others have mentioned above as well as other synergistic rest/recovery compounds
and lookit that price! only $25 for 40 servings nutra (better hurry -- only 2 left!)

Redefine Nutrition (FinaFlex) Finaflex G8 (40 servings): Discount Finaflex G8 Supplements

 

[schizm]

I also can vouch for G8 and Growth Factor X, quality sleep, wake up feeling refreshed...GFX has the added bonus of a libido increase...but neither of them keep me asleep all night, rather if I wake up, usually have no problems falling back asleep...
Have you looked into your stim timing in the late afternoon, if you're using any...that's usually my culprit for not being able to get to sleep...

 

[cubsfan815]

I have anxiety issues sometimes that keep me up for hours.

GFX looks nice
Alphamax is similar with LDopa, ZMA, plus test boosters, so those two are a totally different category.

Basically I only jumped in here because I wanted to suggest.....


Palmela Handerson

 

[AntM1564]

Your best bet is to fix your issue, i.e. remove the stress etc. Look into improving your sleep hygiene. If you are looking for a supplement, look into either melatonin or phenibut (but only use the phenibut sparingly). Just don't forget fixing your sleep is important and you shouldn't take a band-aid solution to fix it (I like to use my phenibut sparingly when I know I'm going to have trouble sleeping that night).

I highly agree with the first portion. Most of the time, sleeping problems can be fixed without supplements. Do you have certain things stressing you right now? If so, you just have to try relax and not think about those things. Keep yourself engaged with something so those things are not directly on your mind. It could very well be hygiene as well. Try and go to bed at or close to the same time every night Get into a certain routine, a certain couple of things you may do 30 minutes or so pre bed. Try to not have any noise. I sleep with ear plugs and love it If you have a lot of light in your room, try to cover the sources or get a sleeping mask. Try not to use electronics 15-30 minutes pre bed, those things keep your mind going.

If all that fails, try melatonin; as needed.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I have anxiety issues sometimes that keep me up for hours.

if I were a cubs fan, I too would have never-ending anxiety issues....

 

[cubsfan815]

if I were a cubs fan, I too would have never-ending anxiety issues....

Haha you mentioned that, and didn't even touch on Palmela Handerson?

Hey Cubs have a bright future, I just hope I'm alive to see it!

 

[snagencyV2.0]

didn't even touch on Palmela Handerson?

why in gods name would I wish to touch on that?
ewww

 

[tyga tyga]

G8 didn't do anything for me :/

 

[snagencyV2.0]

G8 didn't do anything for me :/

first I have ever heard anything like this, srs...you are quite the anomaly
our mass feedback details nothing but positives, no one has ever said what you do here
odd that you would list phenibut as worthwhile, but claim this about G8 when we have healthy dose of phenibut included..
sorry about your luck, but thanks for your feedback

 

[tyga tyga]

first I have ever heard anything like this, srs...you are quite the anomaly our mass feedback details nothing but positives, no one has ever said what you do here odd that you would list phenibut as worthwhile, but claim this about G8 when we have healthy dose of phenibut included.. sorry about your luck, but thanks for your feedback

Really? I've seen (unsponsored) reviews that have said the same thing as me. Also, I gave a sample pack to my wife(got it with my order) she said it didn't do anything for her either.

I've never taken phenibut solo, but from http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1527-3458.2001.tb00211.x/abstract is the reason i listed it as a option. Compared to a mild tranq, and the diazepam family.

No need to get offensive, some people are non responders lol

 

[snagencyV2.0]

No need to get offensive, some people are non responders lol

lol...no need to get your panties in a bunch and label others as "offensive" either
I clarified your post, and thanked you for your feedback
if you take that as offensive, I feel very sorry for you

interesting as well that you have no experience with phenibut solo (so very limited experience with combo products too then?), yet you feel it worthwhile to advise because you "read" somewhere it is worthwhile...huh

in any event, you claim this above regarding "unsponsored threads"...okay, please do list these hidden gems you refer to

it's a pretty straightforward directive in dosing scheme, but as with everything "operator error" is always something that cannot be accounted for..perhaps you were taking too close to food...

to summarize: I once again thank you for your feedback, and look forward to you citing the links you claim you have read

 

[tyga tyga]

lol...no need to get your panties in a bunch and label others as "offensive" either I clarified your post, and thanked you for your feedback if you take that as offensive, I feel very sorry for you in any event, you claim this above regarding "unsponsored threads"...okay, please do list these hidden gems you refer to it's a pretty straightforward directive in dosing scheme, but as with everything "operator error" is always something that cannot be accounted for..perhaps you were taking too close to food... in any event: I once again thank you for your feedback, and look forward to you citing the links you claim you have read

Ol classic snags lol

Did you read the link?

Ps. I don't wear panties, nuts are to big. Commando round here.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Ol classic snags lol

Did you read the link?

Ps. I don't wear panties, nuts are to big. Commando round here.

I read the online link you provided on phenibut; however, I did not see you provide links to the unsponsored threads you claim you read where ppl say G8 did "nothing for them", as I have asked for you to please provide

did you read my post thoroughly?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

for those interested in reading G8 reviews posted on this forum by quality individuals many of you know well from this site...

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/product-review/211702-finaflex-g8-20-a.html

enjoy



here too is a nonsponsored review of the old formula..
Finaflex G8 Review

Finaflex G8 Review
MC December 11, 2011

Finaflex G8 Review by Blockhead

The year of 2010 brought us the hip hop club anthem from The Far East Movement G6 but in the dietary supplement world a new company rose out of the ashes like a Phoenix which happens to be their logo.
Enter: Redefine Nutrition. Redefine made big waves in the nutritional supplement/sports nutrition industry with their FINAFLEX line. An innovative company looking to change the game and the way it’s played in this market offering new ideas in formulation of products and unique combination of compounds using what is proven to have effect on body composition and ridding itself of useless fillers and other junk that is used to make a product looked “stacked to the max”.

Last week I was able to try a sample packet of their Rest/Recovery formula known as G8. Sleep aid formulas have been getting popular as of late. We’ve always heard that we grow and change from rest or when we sleep and the most savvy of serious trainers know that natural release of growth hormone is released during deep sleep. There is definitely something to be said about the benefits of quality sleep. Something so misunderstood and so abused. We live in a society that dubbed the phrase “Sleep? Overrated. I’ll sleep when I’m dead”. Lack of deep sleep accelerates the aging process and gradually works against our complex human bodies wrecking havoc in a long run and blunting real gains and change we work so hard to induce.

I know what it’s like to lose sleep. Being a rotating shift worker who still hit the weights I often find myself at night tossing & turning trying or flipping my pillows over and over again. I’ve tried Tylenol PM and even Nyquil but both can make me feel groggy and achy the next morning. Then I tried G8.

I knew based on some of the ingredients that I would have to try it on a day when I don’t have to be up at 6am for work so I picked “my Friday” and poured one packet (one serving) in a glass of water right around 11:00pm. It turned the water into a green murky color but to my surprise it was quite easy to drink. The Lemon Freeze tasted like juice with a slight hint of that medicine-like aftertaste. Tolerable. Like usual I laid in bed and posted on Muscleweek.com and did my round of creeping facebook and downloading music. By 11:30 my eyelids were heavy and sand filled my eyes. I knew it was time to log off and post another day.

What I noticed 11hrs later…

That’s right. I slept like a slumbering dragon for an uninterrupted 11 straight hours. Not once did I toss & turn or wake up to empty my childlike bladder. Here are the dynamics on how it works:

Recovery/Sleep Inducing Matrix – It has L-Glutamine, L-Arginine and L-Dopa in it. L-Dopa is known to be a mood elevating compound that studies show has an effect on our serotonin levels or “feel good hormones”. Glutamine & Arginine I am guessing to support anti-catabolism while we sleep giving us a trickle of important amino acids in our bloodstreams. Also, it has phenibut in it which is actually a prescription drug in Europe used for sedation and promoting calmness and well-being. Very powerful and works much better than the active ingredient in Benedryl in my opinion.

Mood Elevators: Besides the L-Dopa it also contains Tyrosine, L-Phenylalanine and 4 butanoic acid, 2 amino -3 propanoic acid. All chemistry jargon for other active ingredients that can help increase a positive feeling of well being, recovery and restoration of body functions impaired by lack of quality sleep such as sex drive and sensation.

It has Vitamin C and Vitamin B6 in it which I am not sure why exactly. I’m surprised it doesn’t have Magnesium and Zinc in it giving it a ZMA feature.

I woke up feeling as light as a feather and full of energy that can’t be obtained from some STIMULANT or favorite thermogenic. Nothing was aching and it didn’t take me time to “get going”. I wasn’t groggy or crabby like I usually am in the morning before I start my day with coffee and newspaper. I was Alert & Orientated and ready to take on the day. In other words. I felt young, ready, willing and able.

If anything I would say that a full serving might be a bit too much. Most people work most days during the week and I am inclined to believe that a full serving may make you sleep through your alarm on your cell phone and miss work or be very late. The way I would advise to use this product would be on the days you have OFF the next day where you can afford to sleep in a bit but if it were to be used on a nightly basis I would recommend that a half serving or 3/4 serving be used to assess your personal tolerance. I also would suggest it be cycled and tapered off a little. In other words it should be used strategically and responsibly. It’s very effective and worth the price of admission.

the reason I bring this review up and highlight the above portion, is to show this was the overwhelmikng feedback we received on this product, over a period of number of yrs (not simply weeks or months)
so, we reformulated the product and reduced the actives, while also improving taste immensely -- end result, we doubled the serving size (from 20 to 40), with no increase in cost to consumer

we are extremely pleased with this product, and of course stand by it fittingly and appropriately

 

[KrisL]

5htp, deadlifts, and liquor (optional) knock me right out.

 

[tyga tyga]

I read the online link you provided; however, I did not see you provide links to the unsponsored threads you claim you read where ppl say G8 did "nothing for them", as I have asked for you to please provide did you read my post thoroughly?

I did.

A simple google search would turn up what you're asking. Slow your roll grey beard, I shall dig, for you.

 

[tyga tyga]

5htp, deadlifts, and liquor (optional) knock me right out.

You ever try valerian+5htp?

Lolz liquor

 

[KrisL]

I've never used valerian myself, but it's great for calming down anxious dogs. A half cap in dinner will make a high-strung german shephard kind of dopey for the rest of the night, so I assume that it works just as well on people.

 

[Young Gotti]

You ever try valerian+5htp?

Lolz liquor

throw melatonin into that mix....it's a really good trio

 

[tyga tyga]

throw melatonin into that mix....it's a really good trio

Wish I had 2-bromo-melatonin that's in sleephoria.

Ambien will knock you out too lol

 

[Austin118]

Abyss unparalleled and EST SOMADROL best sleep aids I've tried, next Arnold iron dreams

 

[snagencyV2.0]

You ever try valerian+5htp?

you like 5htp eh?
(ironically again) we also have that in G8
so now there are 2 compounds you like, both included in a product you say does nothing for you
huh

still awaiting these links that you say a simple google search will show..
us greybeards are not always the most patient dudes around, despite all the rumors that you gain patience with age

 

[tyga tyga]

you like 5htp eh? (ironically again) we also have that in G8 so now there are 2 compounds you like, both included in a product you say does nothing for you huh still awaiting these links that you say a simple google search will show.. us greybeards are not always the most patient dudes around, despite all the rumors that you gain patience with age

Never said I liked valerian and 5htp lol wut? My brother uses it to help him fall asleep. Valerian did nadda for me.

I see that older you get the grumpier huh? I'm not at a computer, right meow. I shall look, if I was wrong I will surely admit it. I don't have pride over here

 

[rome32]

I use Pro Supps Crash during contest prep.

& AI sports nutrition 3Z when I have trouble sleeping.

I am actually getting ready to run Finaflex G8 after this bottle is up.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I see that older you get the grumpier huh?

nah not really...depends on things like whether hemorrhoids are flaring, etc etc..

I shall look, if I was wrong I will surely admit it. I don't have pride over here

wonderful thanks, this is all I can ask

I know my product very well, and have seen quite literally hundreds of reviews/feedback info from G8
as I have stated, I have never seen one that states what you say

this does not mean one (or even a handful for that matter) may not exist, simply that I have good feel for our products, not only in what I feel personally and know from behind-the-scenes production of manufacture process (ie quality of raws), but also because I run the customer service response department for the company and deal with hundreds of ppl who do not get involved in forums, but represent a good portion more of any company customer base, than any # of forums combined do..

we are confident in the products we produce

 

[tyga tyga]

Never said I liked valerian and 5htp lol wut? My brother uses it to help him fall asleep. Valerian did nadda for me. I see that older you get the grumpier huh? I'm not at a computer, right meow. I shall look, if I was wrong I will surely admit it. I don't have pride over here

And admittedly, I was wrong. The threads I grazed through only spoke of mild to extreme grogginess when waking, not that it wasn't "effective." Suppose my wife and I are in the minute group that doesn't respond to G8

 

[snagencyV2.0]

And admittedly, I was wrong. The threads I grazed through only spoke of mild to extreme grogginess when waking, not that it wasn't "effective." Suppose my wife and I are in the minute group that doesn't respond to G8

if nothing else, appreciate you being man of your word
that seems to be in ever-shorter supply, these days..

 

[Blergs]

Wondering if you guys can recommend any good sleep products? Been having trouble falling/staying asleep as well as my recovery been lacking due to it.

I highly rec Kava kava root drink or extract paste for sleep and/or anxiety.
Also Valarian root is an option.

 

[SwolenONE]

Sleephoria ftw

Abyss is a solid option also

 

[tyga tyga]

Sleephoria ftw Abyss is a solid option also

Profile is ridiculous.

But I'm an evomuse fanboy..

 

[heavylifter33]

Wondering if you guys can recommend any good sleep products? Been having trouble falling/staying asleep as well as my recovery been lacking due to it.

I've had luck with both melatonin and ZMA. Phenibut i've used a few times, but go easy on it. I try not to use melatonin too much either. ZMA has always worked well for me, much deeper sleep and this is coming from someone with horrible sleep patterns. Right now i'm trying our new GH product Growth Factor and i'm really liking the sleep benefits. It's a good product if you have a bit more cash to spend as there are a few benefits outside of deeper sleep.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Sleephoria and abysss unparalleled all the way

 

[mw1]

I would pick Growth factor over Abyss any day

 

[goodvibes]

Google Kirkland sleep aid. This is some serious stuff so only go with half a pill. On the first night of taking it make sure you have the rest of the day off cause all you'll want to do is sleep lol

 

[tony soprano]

Google Kirkland sleep aid. This is some serious stuff so only go with half a pill. On the first night of taking it make sure you have the rest of the day off cause all you'll want to do is sleep lol

The timing of your post is ironic. I was specifically reading this thread to find a potential replacement for Kirkland's Sleep Aid. My mother has been taking that stuff for a couple of years now and has developed a tolerance to it. When she first started, half a pill was effective. Now, she's up to a pill and a half. I was looking at Sleephoria or Abyss Unparalled as potential alternatives for her.

 

[goodvibes]

The timing of your post is ironic. I was specifically reading this thread to find a potential replacement for Kirkland's Sleep Aid. My mother has been taking that stuff for a couple of years now and has developed a tolerance to it. When she first started, half a pill was effective. Now, she's up to a pill and a half. I was looking at Sleephoria or Abyss Unparalled as potential alternatives for her.

Haha dnt worry then. Looks like you have an answer to your problem. Take the pill now and just worry about a replacement in two years when the tolerance had built up. until then happy zzzzzs!

Seriously though I've been taking it for over a year and I'm still at half dosage. that stuff is amaaazing! In 10 mins I'll be lights out and up in 8 hrs like clockwork

 

[goodvibes]

I probably dnt need the pill anymore but my routine had been so good I dnt want to change it yet

 

[tony soprano]

Haha dnt worry then. Looks like you have an answer to your problem. Take the pill now and just worry about a replacement in two years when the tolerance had built up. until then happy zzzzzs!

Seriously though I've been taking it for over a year and I'm still at half dosage. that stuff is amaaazing! In 10 mins I'll be lights out and up in 8 hrs like clockwork

It's not for me, I want to find something she can use while taking a break from the Kirkland product. She's been using the stuff fairly regularly for a couple of years now. I think she needs to cycle off for awhile. I'm going to get some Abyss Unparalleled and hope it's effective for her.

 

[maromo]

I would pick Growth factor over Abyss any day

when Growth Factor XT in Nutra?

 

[maromo]

Sleephoria and abysss unparalleled all the way

maybe i must try Sleephoria, im bit scary with sleep supps containing B6 vitamin, because make me wake up all night (atleast the one i tried along with melatonin)

 

[Jiigzz]

maybe i must try Sleephoria, im bit scary with sleep supps containing B6 vitamin, because make me wake up all night (atleast the one i tried along with melatonin)

Try cleaning up your sleep hygiene first, then look into your routine for bed then lastly at supplement use.

I love agmatine, glycophase and ZMA pre bed. Ths dreams are mad intense.

 

[money0351]

Try cleaning up your sleep hygiene first, then look into your routine for bed then lastly at supplement use.

I love agmatine, glycophase and ZMA pre bed. Ths dreams are mad intense.

I was just going to ask if anyone else likes agmatine pre bed! Great dreams and restful sleep

 

[Jiigzz]

I was just going to ask if anyone else likes agmatine pre bed! Great dreams and restful sleep

Its a simple regime. I love it pre bed!

 

[ikeNball]

Abyss unparalleled. Seems to help me relax greatly and then fall asleep. Anybody know if this is discontinued?
Also it's not a supplement mentioned on here but Alteril (not sure manufacturer) works wonders to keep me asleep, feel rested, & not groggy the next day.