Ephedrine vs Yohimbe for fat loss

[dpk33]

I'm mainly concerned about fat loss and side effects. Which would be better stacked with caffeine and why? (assuming i'm at a proper caloric deficit and macros, etc)

 

[vujade]

ECA has university studies proving its effectiveness,

Yohimbe can be a vasodilator or vasoconstrictor based on dosages, that's why it has more potential sides.

 

[dpk33]

ECA has university studies proving its effectiveness,

Yohimbe can be a vasodilator or vasoconstrictor based on dosages, that's why it has more potential sides.

So EC would be better for fat loss? I haven't tried EC yet, but I have tried YC and I have experienced negative side effects (mainly heartrate). Would the EC side effects be similar or even worse?

 

[T-Bone]

ECA by a long-shot.

 

[heavylifter33]

EC. However, adding alpha-yohimbe to EC is probably the best OTC fat loss stack available.

 

[dpk33]

EC. However, adding alpha-yohimbe to EC is probably the best OTC fat loss stack available.

Thanks, I was actually planning on running an ECY stack, except I've read about how the E and Y could make each others' side effects worse. Is this only with Yohimbine HCL and not the case with Alpha-Y?

And what are good Alpha-Y products?

 

[kbayne]

Thanks, I was actually planning on running an ECY stack, except I've read about how the E and Y could make each others' side effects worse. Is this only with Yohimbine HCL and not the case with Alpha-Y? And what are good Alpha-Y products?

Have you tried EC or Yohimbine HCL or Alpha-Y solo yet?

 

[mr.cooper69]

Actually, while ECA gets a lot of talk and has more studies, the documented magnitude of fat loss form yohimbine is on par with EC: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/pes/241417-coops-corner-4-a.html.

And this is yohimbine in isolation. Adding caffeine, b-agonists, or forskolin would make it even more potent

 

[dpk33]

Have you tried EC or Yohimbine HCL or Alpha-Y solo yet?

I have never tried EC solo, but I have tried Yohimbe in the form of the PES SA2-A extract in alphamine and alpha t2.

Actually, while ECA gets a lot of talk and has more studies, the documented magnitude of fat loss form yohimbine is on par with EC: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/pes/241417-coops-corner-4-a.html.

And this is yohimbine in isolation. Adding caffeine, b-agonists, or forskolin would make it even more potent

Actually I was considering using E together with Alphamine or Norcodrene, but stacking E and Higenamine, as they are both b-agonists doesn't sound like a good idea.

 

[kbayne]

I have never tried EC solo, but I have tried Yohimbe in the form of the PES SA2-A extract in alphamine and alpha t2. Actually I was considering using E together with Alphamine or Norcodrene, but stacking E and Higenamine, as they are both b-agonists doesn't sound like a good idea.

You should probably try EC solo for at least 4 weeks to see how you react before considering adding any form of Yohimbine IMO.

 

[vujade]

You should probably try EC solo for at least 4 weeks to see how you react before considering adding any form of Yohimbine IMO.

This ^

 

[z28spd]

On EC 24mg(4everfit)E + 200c 3x a day with alpha-t2 2/1 dose. My favorite stack.

 

[dpk33]

Yeah, i was planning on trying EC by itself. In general, how are the side effects of EC in comparison to SA2-A yohimbe extract?

 

[Quadzilla99]

On EC 24mg(4everfit)E + 200c 3x a day with alpha-t2 2/1 dose. My favorite stack.

What is this 4efverfit? You can't sell ephedrine as a fitness supplement so I'm not sure what you're referring to unless you mean you got the caffeine from there or something. Doesn't make any sense.

 

[vujade]

What is this 4efverfit? You can't sell ephedrine as a fitness supplement so I'm not sure what you're referring to unless you mean you got the caffeine from there or something. Doesn't make any sense.

It's Canadian Ephedrine HCL

 

[Younglifter16]

What is this 4efverfit? You can't sell ephedrine as a fitness supplement so I'm not sure what you're referring to unless you mean you got the caffeine from there or something. Doesn't make any sense.

they sell it from canada, I used it its legit

 

[z28spd]

this, expensive as **** though to ship. Wanted to try it for once without the guif. from bronkaid or primatene.

 

[Quadzilla99]

Ah, ok I see. thanks

 

[dpk33]

Ok so basically, I start off with just EC and work my way up to full dose. Then if I can tolerate full dose ec, then I can contemplate adding Alpha-Y? What is a good product ?