What is a good testosterone stack?

[Jeepguy]

I'm currently trying to gain as much muscle and burn as much fat as possible. There are so many test boosters on the market these days I'm not sure what works and what doesn't. Im on a pretty strict diet right now was weighing 309lbs I'm down to 267 with no strength loss and starting to see my abs. I'm 6'2" I eat 5-6 times a day each meal contains about 9oz of protein and 4oz of carbs ( no junk ) I've been eating really clean. I workout 5-6 days a week and do 30 min a cardio after my workouts.

Just looking for a good test stack to take that I can see some good muscle gains with. I've ran steroids in the past (real testosterone) and d Bol nothing to hard but me and the wife are planning on having a kid within the next year and I'm looking for something to hold me over untill I can get back on another real cycle also planning to do a show next year. Been training off and on for 7 years or so.

 

[mechka_grizli]

Right now the popular stack seems to be, Alphamaxx and an aRa supplement ( x factor or x gels)

 

[blacklac]

Test booster won't give you any more muscle gains.

 

[AntM1564]

If you've ran real test before, then nothing will compare. However, a good stack would be:

Alphamax
X-Gels
LCLT
GMS

Alphamax is very versatile and does not contain a prop blend, you know what you're getting.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

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[Grayson]

Go for reduce xt and x-gels + gms + alcar +agmatine. Test boosters (with the exception of maybe natadrol) don't put on muscle. The aforementioned stack will.

 

[Jeepguy]

Go for reduce xt and x-gels + gms + alcar +agmatine. Test boosters (with the exception of maybe natadrol) don't put on muscle. The aforementioned stack will.

How many weeks could I stack these 8-10?

 

[Jeepguy]

Only supplements I'm on now are a multivitamin c4 for preworkout, amino acids during workout and some nitro tech protein. About the only time I take the protein is after my workout I've been trying to incorporate a lot more whole food in my diet instead of shakes.

 

[Grayson]

How many weeks could I stack these 8-10?

X-Gels with all the amenities for 50 workout days. So if you workout 3-4 times a week, that's about 3 months.
Natadrol - anywhere 8-12 weeks at max dosage.
Reduce Xt - the SNS boys will have to chime in, but I've only seen it 4-8 weeks on, 2-4 weeks off. Reduce XT is for cortisol modulation and therefore highly synergistic with X-Gels.

 

[mw1]

Go for reduce xt and x-gels + gms + alcar +agmatine. Test boosters (with the exception of maybe natadrol) don't put on muscle. The aforementioned stack will.

That would be an awesome stack...maybe add in Growth Factor if funds allow

 

[mw1]

How many weeks could I stack these 8-10?

Using Xgels 3-4 days per week you could easily do 10 weeks. Reduce XT is very effective for cortisol. I would recommend to caps per day then increase if needed

 

[Jeepguy]

X-Gels with all the amenities for 50 workout days. So if you workout 3-4 times a week, that's about 3 months.
Natadrol - anywhere 8-12 weeks at max dosage.
Reduce Xt - the SNS boys will have to chime in, but I've only seen it 4-8 weeks on, 2-4 weeks off. Reduce XT is for cortisol modulation and therefore highly synergistic with X-Gels.

X Gels + GMS + Alcar + Agmatine 8-12 weeks
Natadrol 8-12 weeks
And reduce xt 4-8 weeks

Will this require a PCT if so what?
Where is a good place to order this from?
And im assuming this is a all natural stack?

 

[mw1]

X Gels + GMS + Alcar + Agmatine 8-12 weeks
Natadrol 8-12 weeks
And reduce xt 4-8 weeks

Will this require a PCT if so what?
Where is a good place to order this from?
And im assuming this is a all natural stack?

No PCT is required
NP should have all that as well as sportsnutritiononline.com(use AM8 for 8% off order)

 

[Grayson]

X Gels + GMS + Alcar + Agmatine 8-12 weeks
Natadrol 8-12 weeks
And reduce xt 4-8 weeks

Will this require a PCT if so what?
Where is a good place to order this from?
And im assuming this is a all natural stack?

From what I've seen, natadrol is slightly androgenic so no pct is required, but I wouldn't take anything hormonal for half at least 3 weeks. That's just me, though.

For the other stack, you don't need a PCT.

 

[packers6211]

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/finaflex-redefine-nutrition-mass-550-60-capsules.html Im currently doing a log on this. I've used some of their products in the past and use their creatine as my g2. But this stuff is insane. I noticed a great increase in volume and strength is increasing as well. Last week on chest day i ended my incline barbell press on 275 lbs for 4 reps. Not bad for a lil old 5'5 hulk lol. If you get a chance try it out.

 

[Ptoro09]

Hello peeps I'm new to this forum but been on for 2 years....In my P.O. I love test prop. W/ anvar....but that's just my P.O. And it has done wonders for me.....most other get me bloated :/

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Hello peeps I'm new to this forum but been on for 2 years....In my P.O. I love test prop. W/ anvar....but that's just my P.O. And it has done wonders for me.....most other get me bloated :/

:blink:

 

[Ptoro09]

:blink:

Don't blink you might miss it brotha ?

 

[jimbuick]

I would recommend Endosurge Turbo personally.


With it you should notice increased libido, mood improvement, deeper sleep, increase in free T, and strength gains.


Plus, the price is hard to beat.

 

[geniusesq]

1 Andro?

 

[MultiVitamin]

I think you'd really like a Derm/Form cycle (8-10wk)

Then you could "PCT" w/ EndoSurge/AlphaMax & ArA + Anabeta stack. Would be a nice little while of gainzz

 

[mr.cooper69]

A lot of you guys would like AS' new Cistamax. Cistanche deserticola acts as an exogenous androgen and directly agonizes the androgen receptor...yet at the same time, it IMPROVES fertility. Very cool pro-testosterone effect

 

[JD261985]

A lot of you guys would like AS' new Cistamax. Cistanche deserticola acts as an exogenous androgen and directly agonizes the androgen receptor...yet at the same time, it IMPROVES fertility. Very cool pro-testosterone effect

As Cistamax? I'll check it out never heard of it

 

[Jiigzz]

Hello peeps I'm new to this forum but been on for 2 years....In my P.O. I love test prop. W/ anvar....but that's just my P.O. And it has done wonders for me.....most other get me bloated :/

Not supplements dawg

 

[Jiigzz]

So many options!

Mass 550 + Xgels
Growth Factor XT + Xgels
Anabeta + Endosurge + DAA

 

[mr.cooper69]

As Cistamax? I'll check it out never heard of it

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1. Cai, R. L., et al. "Antifatigue Activity of Phenylethanoid-rich Extract from Cistanche Deserticola." Phytother Res 24.2 (2010): n. pag. Web.
2. Han, L. C., and J. F. Hou. "Effects of Cistanche Deserticola Y.C. Ma on Serum Creatine Kinase and Ultrastructures of Skeletal Muscles in Mice." Zhongguo Zhong Yao Za Zhi 18.12 (1993): 743-45. Web.
3. Gu, Li, Wen-Ting Xiong, Chao Wang, Hong-Xia Sun, Guo-Fu Li, and Xin Liu. "Cistanche Deserticola Decoction Alleviates the Testicular Toxicity Induced by Hydroxyurea in Male Mice." Asian Journal of Andrology 15.6 (2013): 838-40. Web.
4. Zhang, Ke, Xu Ma, Wenjun He, Haixia Li, Shuyan Han, Yong Jiang, Hounan Wu, Li Han, Tomohiro Ohno, Nobuo Uotsu, Kohji Yamaguchi, Zhizhong Ma, and Pengfei Tu. "Extracts of Cistanche Deserticola Can Antagonize Immunosenescence and Extend Life Span in Senescence-Accelerated Mouse Prone 8 (SAM-P8) Mice." Evidence-Based Complementary and Alternative Medicine 2014 (2014): 1-14. Print.
5. Xuan, G. D., and C. Q. Liu. "Research on the Effect of Phenylethanoid Glycosides (PEG) of the Cistanche Deserticola on Anti-aging in Aged Mice Induced by D-galactose." Zhong Yao Cai 31.9 (2008): 1385-388. Web.

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[jeff32]

Coop, is cistamax some sort of a testosterone booster? Where cycle will be needed?

 

[mr.cooper69]

Coop, is cistamax some sort of a testosterone booster? Where cycle will be needed?

You should cycle most any supplement you use. Read the writeup above. It doesn't boost testosterone, but rather agonizes the androgen receptor. In other words, it's a naturally occuring androgen. But shutdown isn't a concern...in fact, it improves fertility

 

[JudgementDay]

congrats on your accomplishments and obvious hard work & dedication...diet seems to be pretty solid as well
yes test boosters very different from actual test as you prolly know, but we have just released a brand new natural muscle-builder that you may be a good candidate for and have interest in, MASS 550

check it out
Redefine Nutrition (FinaFlex) NEW Mass 550 & FREE Custom T-Shirt (LIMITED TIME): Discount NEW Mass 550 & FREE Custom T-Shirt Supplements
special pricing with a cool tee included as well, nutraplanet exclusive

I bet a 12 week cycle of Mass 550 would bring on some pretty impressive gains!

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

You should cycle most any supplement you use. Read the writeup above. It doesn't boost testosterone, but rather agonizes the androgen receptor. In other words, it's a naturally occuring androgen. But shutdown isn't a concern...in fact, it improves fertility

best combined with Erase for AI?

 

[Young Gotti]

i'm a big fan of tropinol xp, testopro, and bulbine as test booster products

coming up shortly i'll combine tropinol xp with anabeta, should be good for fullness and hopefully lean out just a bit

 

[laneanders]

Tropinol XP + Intimidate SRT is a good test stack.

 

[cubsfan815]

Not to be biased but I'm gonna have to go with Alphamax/ArA as well. That stack has been getting a lot of great reviews.

cistamax is intriguing as well, I hate to admit it but I skipped the intro sale because of saving money for a vacation.

 

[MultiVitamin]

As Cistamax? I'll check it out never heard of it

It pretty much just released

Coop; any ideas when/if this will be on NP?

 

[cbsharpe]

Not to be biased but I'm gonna have to go with Alphamax/ArA as well. That stack has been getting a lot of great reviews.

cistamax is intriguing as well, I hate to admit it but I skipped the intro sale because of saving money for a vacation.

Aw c'mon man...you can always go on vacay next year! :laugh:

Naw, but I hear you though. Doing the same thing as we speak. I've been buying something practically every week this year it seems.

 

[Jeepguy]

If I wanted to stack mass 550 + x gels together would I need anything else to go with it?

Seems like everyone has a different opinion lol

 

[snagencyV2.0]

If I wanted to stack mass 550 + x gels together would I need anything else to go with it?

Seems like everyone has a different opinion lol

that actually sounds like a pretty intriguing stack...nice

 

[veaderko]

I just finished Tropinol and Intimidate and really enjoyed it. Thats my recommendation.

 

[snagencyV2.0]

I just finished Tropinol and Intimidate and really enjoyed it. Thats my recommendation.

yeah we know...we were already minionized ~an hour ago

Tropinol XP + Intimidate SRT is a good test stack.

 

[mtinsideout]

yeah we know...we were already minionized ~an hour ago

 

[ddfox]

Running AlphaMax now (4 wks)... Got a free bottle of APE to try next. Surprised I haven't heard APE mentioned yet. Anybody try it?

 

[cubsfan815]

Aw c'mon man...you can always go on vacay next year! :laugh:

Naw, but I hear you though. Doing the same thing as we speak. I've been buying something practically every week this year it seems.

Me too. I have so much stuff at home. My wife is not happy that most of the cupboards are full.

 

[aaronuconn]

i'm a big fan of tropinol xp, testopro, and bulbine as test booster products coming up shortly i'll combine tropinol xp with anabeta, should be good for fullness and hopefully lean out just a bit

Glad to hear you're a fan of Bulbine. What sort of dose did you use?

 

[Jeepguy]

Running AlphaMax now (4 wks)... Got a free bottle of APE to try next. Surprised I haven't heard APE mentioned yet. Anybody try it?

Alphamax come in a white bottle or blue? I noticed the one on NP is in a white bottle with red lettering.

 

[cubsfan815]

Alphamax come in a white bottle or blue? I noticed the one on NP is in a white bottle with red lettering.

The one on NP is correct.

 

[Young Gotti]

Glad to hear you're a fan of Bulbine. What sort of dose did you use?

for me bulbine is simple...1 cap in the pm, stack it with intimidate or daa and libido is almost too much

 

[Jiigzz]

If I wanted to stack mass 550 + x gels together would I need anything else to go with it?

Seems like everyone has a different opinion lol

That would make for a good stack as it is. No need to go overboard

There are so many products that its just a matter of going with what piques your interested

 

[cbsharpe]

Me too. I have so much stuff at home. My wife is not happy that most of the cupboards are full.

LOL..you need your own stackable shelves like I do. I have room for them in our bedroom and I stash all of my supplements in there minus the 8 proteins I have on hand. LOL!

But yeah, you can get them Lowe's or Home Depot and even Walmart. They're plastic and the drawers pull out. Pretty convenient. If my supps were in the cupboard, my wifey would kill me.

 

[cbsharpe]

Running AlphaMax now (4 wks)... Got a free bottle of APE to try next. Surprised I haven't heard APE mentioned yet. Anybody try it?

I tried APE last year and it was pretty good.

 

[Jeepguy]

That would make for a good stack as it is. No need to go overboard

There are so many products that its just a matter of going with what piques your interested

About to place my order on NP

Mass 550 4c/day 2 in morning 2 at night with meals.
X gels 4c/day 2 in the morning and 2 at night except on workout days ill take 4c before training.
Was thinking about throwing in som GMS 1 scoop before training with my preworkout.
And some LCLT.

Do you think the GMS and LCLT are not needed and i should just role with the mass 550 and x gels?