It's been going on for about 10 years and I've seen a neuro surgeon, chiropractor and physical therapist. The recommended exercises help some but from there they've just recommended cortisone shots when it gets too bad.
I do the stretches every day and reverse hypers and planks a few times each week but will look in to adding yoga. I'm sure my wife would like it if I joined her in doing that. I may take you up on your offer and pm you with questions. Thank you.
I got the same problem, plus facet of the joint and 2 more bulged discs.
I had the same surgery... crushed disc on sciatic nerve
Forskolin
That's a good list of supplements for me to check out. Thank you! Are there one or two that you found to be most effective? I'd like to keep costs as manageable as possible.
Thank you. I'll check into that one.
Already taking fish oil. But I'll increase my dosage and buy a better quality. Have you heard anything about curcumin as an anti-inflammatory?
Definitely not thinking I can reverse my DDD. The neuro surgeon I saw years ago explained how all I can do is help things by doing specific stretches/exercises (and I've had to avoid basically every exercise that loads my spine) and add in any pain medication as needed. I'm following the first part of his advice but have been resisting the second part with the exception of taking Aleve often. I don't really want to get put on anything stronger as I don't think the daily pain is bad enough to warrant anything stronger and I don't want to take anything with the potential for abuse and addiction. I figured taking Aleve as often as I do probably isn't the best thing either so wanted to check on these forums to see if anyone knew of some supplements which were safe for longterm use in pain reduction.
Cool (not your pain but that you found something that helps)! Nerve Restore seems to be recommended a lot. Just checked out Flexible and it looks good too.
They work in dif ways,but both are awesome. Within1-2 weeks and Flexible is starting to ease all joint issues for me and the Nerve Restore gives a great mind to muscle conn.
I use 2-2.5 grams daily. 1-1.5 gram first thing in the morning upon waking and 1 gram about 8-12 hrs later. I have a ruptured and herniated disc in my lumbar and the agmatine helps dial down the pain. This was one of my main reasons for using agmatine along with its gda and noortropic effects. The first few times I cycled it and played with the dosages until I found what range worked for me. After a few cycles it became a daily staple.
This. The supplements recommended here are really being taken out of context. You can't fix DJD or lumbar radiculopathy with a supplement, sorry to say
I understand. Not trying to fix the problem since that can't be done. Just wanting to dial down the daily pain (as the post above phrased it).
You're correct
Interesting. I'll have to keep an eye on TB4. Something that can slow things down would be great.
Sorry to hear that. I'm hoping to avoid any kind of surgery in the future. Thank you for the advice.
Same surgery as me.
Did you notice lower doses actually making your back pain worse? I've started slow at just 630 mg in the morning and late afternoon and the last couple days I woke up with much worse back pain. Just not sure if this is a coincidence, if things get worse before improving or if lower doses make it worse while higher doses reduce pain. I don't understand how that can be possible though.
I have never used less than 1 gram daily. I started with 1 gram daily (500mg am/500mg pm) for the first week and added from there (ie - 1.5g, 2g, 2.5g, 3g etc). The beneficial effects take time to build up so there was no immediate relief or improvement. After 2-3 weeks I was at a dosage of 2-2.5g daily and at that point I started to notice many of the cumulative effects such as improved mood, lowered bp, improved sleep quality, and pain relief. After trying different dosing schemes and amounts, I found my sweet spot to be 2-2.5g daily (1-1.5g am/ 1g pm). When I cycled off, the difference was noticeable. Since last summer, agmatine has been a daily staple for me.
Glad I could help.
Being a physical therapy student, I will hop on this quote for emphasis. External loads placed upon the spine while lifting ANYTHING can be enough to stress the area in question. The anterior shearing force re: L5-S1 can be extremely problematic. I'm sure you are already doing this, but I would definitely suggest making posture throughout the day a major part of keeping pain away. I'm not sure what your work environment is like, but a good therapist (or someone else skilled in this area), should be able to create the best setup to reduce stressed based upon your specific body. Loaded lumbar flexion can certainly be bad, but excessive extension can be extremely problematic as well. Keeping the spine in a neutral (assuming your normal posture is in neutral of course), would be my focus with any exercise. Stability-work for the abdominal area that doesn't include too much flexion or extreme extension (So do things like Planks/Side Planks and Pallof Presses) would be my go-to, along with some other conservative things based upon your exact clinical evaluation. Back extensions working with the glutes and contralateral lat would be useful as well.
That's exactly what I'm in school for too! I agree with you completely. Posture is quite often overlooked and yet can contribute significantly to the overall problem. Worksite ergonomics can be adjusted to help improve posture as you pointed out as well.
Badass. Where at if you don't mind me asking? I'm at the University of Maryland in Baltimore.
Oh nice! I'm at the University of Saint Augustine, going for DPT like you. Learning the Stanley Paris method.
In Austin?
Saint Augustine Florida. It was a little cheaper COA and right next to the beach!
Cost of living in Austin is absurd and it's only getting worse. Good luck on the DPT.Saint Augustine Florida. It was a little cheaper COA and right next to the beach!
Yeah I never expected that for Austin. Thanks bro, I only got about a year and a half left. Can't wait to get out there and practice!
Rodja can you give me any tips on finding a program or explanation of these movements?
There are some decent videos on YouTube, but explaining them accurately is impossible. The stretches are very detailed.
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