Leucine content in Amino IV

[fadi]

Not sure if this was discussed before, but does anyone know the Leucine content per serving of Amino IV?

 

[bolt10]

Not sure if this was discussed before, but does anyone know the Leucine content per serving of Amino IV?

I don't think well disclose because it is a prop blend, but considering how it's formulated on recent research I'd feel it's safe to assume each scoop would have enough leucine to sufficiently spike MPS.

 

[Afi140]

I don't think well disclose because it is a prop blend, but considering how it's formulated on recent research I'd feel it's safe to assume each scoop would have enough leucine to sufficiently spike MPS.

Agreed. Probably 4-5 grams I would guess Edit: actually looking it's a 10-1-1 ratio. Would it not be higher than 5 grams? Not sure but it's at least that I believe.

 

[bolt10]

Agreed. Probably 4-5 grams I would guess Edit: actually looking it's a 10-1-1 ratio. Would it not be higher than 5 grams? Not sure but it's at least that I believe.

I'd assume more than 5g per 2 scoops but that's nothing official.

 

[GQNemesis]

15 g is being shared by 13 ingridents, I would guess close to 2g

AMINergO™ Matrix with 10:1:1 BCAA:
L-Leucine, L-Threonine, L-Malate, L-Phenylalanine, L-Lysine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, L-Histidine, L-Methionine **
Amino Ancillary Matrix:
Taurine, α-Hydroxyisocaproic Acid, Lemon Verbena Leaf Extract

 

[bolt10]

15 g is being shared by 13 ingridents, I would guess close to 2g AMINergO(TM) Matrix with 10:1:1 BCAA: L-Leucine, L-Threonine, L-Malate, L-Phenylalanine, L-Lysine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, L-Histidine, L-Methionine ** Amino Ancillary Matrix: Taurine, ?-Hydroxyisocaproic Acid, Lemon Verbena Leaf Extract

You'd assume 2g of Leucine?.....

 

[bdybldnaam]

15 g is being shared by 13 ingridents, I would guess close to 2g

AMINergO™ Matrix with 10:1:1 BCAA:
L-Leucine, L-Threonine, L-Malate, L-Phenylalanine, L-Lysine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, L-Histidine, L-Methionine **
Amino Ancillary Matrix:
Taurine, α-Hydroxyisocaproic Acid, Lemon Verbena Leaf Extract

Keep in mind it's a 10:1:1 BCAA ratio.

 

[Driven2lift]

15 g is being shared by 13 ingridents, I would guess close to 2g

AMINergO(TM) Matrix with 10:1:1 BCAA:
L-Leucine, L-Threonine, L-Malate, L-Phenylalanine, L-Lysine, L-Isoleucine, L-Valine, L-Histidine, L-Methionine **
Amino Ancillary Matrix:
Taurine, ?-Hydroxyisocaproic Acid, Lemon Verbena Leaf Extract

Lol

Definitely higher.
Yes there are 13 ingredients but remember that the 10 in that 10:1:1 ratio is leucine

 

[GQNemesis]

.001 mg - .0001mg
^ that's 10:1 ratio too

 

[aaronuconn]

I would agree with Bolt.. most likely enough to maximize MPS.

 

[bdybldnaam]

.001 mg - .0001mg
^ that's 10:1 ratio too

Yes, but also keep in mind that leucine is listed as the first ingredient.

 

[bdcc]

.001 mg - .0001mg
^ that's 10:1 ratio too

How would that equate to the correct serving size? lol

 

[GQNemesis]

How would that equate to the correct serving size? lol

Perhaps you missed the point

13 ingridents of 15g and if it's 10:1 ratio

Leucine can be 1g and other 12 ingridents can divided out to the remaining 14g

Or leucine can be 13g and other 12g can equal out to the remaining 15g

I'm not saying it is or anything just answering OP, in a prop blend can be anything

 

[bdcc]

Perhaps you missed the point

13 ingridents of 15g and if it's 10:1 ratio

Leucine can be 1g and other 12 ingridents can divided out to the remaining 14g

I'm not saying it is or anything just answering OP, in a prop blend can be anything

Edit: never mind. It is not 2g of leucine lol.

 

[bdcc]

Perhaps you missed the point

13 ingridents of 15g and if it's 10:1 ratio

Leucine can be 1g and other 12 ingridents can divided out to the remaining 14g

Or leucine can be 13g and other 12g can equal out to the remaining 15g

I'm not saying it is or anything just answering OP, in a prop blend can be anything

You either don't understand labelling laws or you are miscalculating the maths.

If there are 13 ingredients in a 15g blend, there is no way the first ingredient can be 1g.

The first ingredient has to have the highest inclusion by weight therefore no other ingredient can be dosed higher. If leucine was 1g then the maximum dose of the blend could be 12g (there are 12 ingredients in the blend, not 13). We have declared a 10:1:1 ratio so it is impossible that all ingredients in there are at equal dosages which means our leucine content has to be even higher than 15g divided by 12.

This is ignoring if the blend is split into two sections as well as the fact we have declared a 10:1:1 ratio. I am doing this for ease of explanation.

 

[GQNemesis]

You either don't understand labelling laws or you are miscalculating the maths.If there are 13 ingredients in a 15g blend, there is no way the first ingredient can be 1g.The first ingredient has to have the highest inclusion by weight therefore no other ingredient can be dosed higher. If leucine was 1g then the maximum dose of the blend could be 12g (there are 12 ingredients in the blend, not 13). We have declared a 10:1:1 ratio so it is impossible that all ingredients in there are at equal dosages which means our leucine content has to be even higher than 15g divided by 12. This is ignoring if the blend is split into two sections as well as the fact we have declared a 10:1:1 ratio. I am doing this for ease of explanation.

Well I wasn't saying exactly the amount of g .. I'm jus giving an example .. I don't have a cal with me but I can break down to 1.5g or sumthing and make it for to 10:1 ratio with decimal points Was just giving a bigger picture brahHow u find out it's not 2g ?

 

[bdcc]

Well I wasn't saying exactly the amount of g .. I'm jus giving an example .. I don't have a cal with me but I can break down to 1.5g or sumthing and make it for to 10:1 ratio with decimal points Was just giving a bigger picture brahHow u find out it's not 2g ?

Ok. I am just clarifying that the doses you provided as examples would be impossible.

I can confirm, leucine is not at 2g.

 

[GQNemesis]

Ok. I am just clarifying that the doses you provided as examples would be impossible.

I can confirm, leucine is not at 2g.

Lol I hear ya
Can you confirm more or less ?

 

[Driven2lift]

Based on how it mixes, (leucine not liking to mix and sitting on top or foaming in higher ratios) even in a 24 oz. shaker I am saying no doubt more

 

[mw1]

The real question is how much taurine? That would give you a better idea of the first part of the blend. Theoretically it could be up to 7 g of taurine but I doubt it's that high

 

[GQNemesis]

Good to know some1 read the second part of the Ingrident label and not just 10:1:1 bcaa part

 

[bdcc]

I know that leucine is higher than 2g because I asked about this previously due to MPS research.

I do not know the ratio of other aminos within the product.

 

[fadi]

With no disrespect to PES, and I have high respect for Natty, but not to disclose the BCAA amount on a BCAA product makes no sense.

That is like promoting a protein powder with carbs and fat and not disclosing how much protein in the protein (labels aside since you must disclose it) or creatine blend product that doesn't tell you how much creatine in the creatine blend.

The ratio is appealing, but a ratio is just a ratio specially when loaded with so much else. A decent competitor can perform lab analysis and figure it out so who is it being protected from? BCAAs should be disclosed, the rest can be prop blend.

How many scoops do I need to get 5g of leucine? I love the stuff but if I can't figure out how much I'm getting from it, I need to go back to other clearer options. If this is being promoted as just an Amino blend and not BCAA, then so be it. It has its uses. If it is not a BCAA product and we can move on and buy BCAA products. If it is BCAA product, then how much BCAA in a BCAA product.

 

[kissdadookie]

There's enough leucine + HICA to signal mTOR in the product most likely (leucine you only need 3 grams to maximize mTOR whilst HICA I've seen the efficacious dose has been 500 mgs).

The question is if there's enough of the other EAAs in the product for MPS.

 

[cbsharpe]

There's enough leucine + HICA to signal mTOR in the product most likely (leucine you only need 3 grams to maximize mTOR whilst HICA I've seen the efficacious dose has been 500 mgs).

The question is if there's enough of the other EAAs in the product for MPS.

BINGO!

 

[mr.cooper69]

With no disrespect to PES, and I have high respect for Natty, but not to disclose the BCAA amount on a BCAA product makes no sense.

That is like promoting a protein powder with carbs and fat and not disclosing how much protein in the protein (labels aside since you must disclose it) or creatine blend product that doesn't tell you how much creatine in the creatine blend.

The ratio is appealing, but a ratio is just a ratio specially when loaded with so much else. A decent competitor can perform lab analysis and figure it out so who is it being protected from? BCAAs should be disclosed, the rest can be prop blend.

How many scoops do I need to get 5g of leucine? I love the stuff but if I can't figure out how much I'm getting from it, I need to go back to other clearer options. If this is being promoted as just an Amino blend and not BCAA, then so be it. It has its uses. If it is not a BCAA product and we can move on and buy BCAA products. If it is BCAA product, then how much BCAA in a BCAA product.

Take 2 scoops for your goals.

That's not a bad idea though, to take the BCAAs out of the blend. I'll see what natty thinks. We certainly have nothing to hide

 

[Auslifter]

^ yeah i would like to know this to. i mean i like amino iv.. but cmon need to see what im getting. also would like to know x amount of HICA in it ect

 

[mr.cooper69]

^ yeah i would like to know this to. i mean i like amino iv.. but cmon need to see what im getting. also would like to know x amount of HICA in it ect

Until I get confirmation that I can say something, I'll just say that unless you're an absolute mammoth (i.e. ronnie coleman), 2 scoops has enough Leucine and enough HICA for your needs.

If you want an idea of the EAA blend, check the human study was cited in our writeup since it is molded around that

 

[fadi]

Until I get confirmation that I can say something, I'll just say that unless you're an absolute mammoth (i.e. ronnie coleman), 2 scoops has enough Leucine and enough HICA for your needs. If you want an idea of the EAA blend, check the human study was cited in our writeup since it is molded around that

Thank you, I love the product and I do trust Natty, it is just makes it easier to know. I am mixing three scopes now, will cut back to two.

 

[Jiigzz]

Thank you, I love the product and I do trust Natty, it is just makes it easier to know. I am mixing three scopes now, will cut back to two.

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

 

[Jiigzz]

Thank you, I love the product and I do trust Natty, it is just makes it easier to know. I am mixing three scopes now, will cut back to two.

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

 

[Jiigzz]

Thank you, I love the product and I do trust Natty, it is just makes it easier to know. I am mixing three scopes now, will cut back to two.

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

 

[mr.cooper69]

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

PES makes quality products with quality dosages. I have zero doubt the leucine and HCA content is sufficient and not just label fluff.

I love your enthusiasm

 

[Synapsin]

I love your enthusiasm

Haha, so excited he had to say it three times.

 

[bdcc]

In my head, Hayden shouted that repeatedly.

LOUD NOISES!

 

[Jiigzz]

In my head, Hayden shouted that repeatedly.

LOUD NOISES!

I was creating an echo haha

Sigh, my phone keeps dropping out of wifi range lol

 

[Younglifter16]

2 scoops (one serving) would be more then enough to maximally stimulate PS with that high of a ratio. PES isnt stingy with their prop blends either, check alphamine for proof

 

[Rostam]

If you want an idea of the EAA blend, check the human study was cited in our writeup since it is molded around that

Can somebody direct me towards the write up or the study cited above? I can't find them. Thanks in advance.