pump supplement for fasted training

[rhoadx]

just like the title says. Looking for the best supplement to get a pump while training fasted.

 

[louisaboy]

Hemavol or High volume

 

[Young Gotti]

hemavol or potassium nitrate

 

[Montego1]

Max Pump for the win!

Hemavol and High Volume are good as well.

 

[aaronuconn]

I like plain Agmatine for this. SNS offers it in bulk form as well as in capsules.

 

[rhoadx]

I like plain Agmatine for this. SNS offers it in bulk form as well as in capsules.

Is agmatine ok to take fasted. I always thought it should be taken with or just prior to carbs

 

[AntM1564]

Fitmax is a great option. You get your Agmatine for your pump. You also have a focus blend, so if you're training first thing in the morning, it could help you mentally. Also, you don't have to add our own creatine if you like to take it pre workout, although it does not really matter when you get it.

 

[schizm]

Curious to know what, if any, pump supps you've used before, OP...

 

[blacklac]

I always workout ~5hrs after a meal and all good pumps supps work excellently. Nitrates, Agmatine, Cit Mal, HemaVol, GMS, etc...

 

[SwolenONE]

Hemavol, High Volume and Peak Beta+ are my favs

 

[cubsfan815]

Fitmax and High Volume for me.

 

[packers6211]

http://www.orbitnutrition.com/cart/lecheek-nutrition-pump-x3.html This has worked well for me and I have combined it with other pwo as well. Hemavol like mentioned above is awesome stuff. A lot of my friends live off Super pump 250

 

[rhoadx]

Curious to know what, if any, pump supps you've used before, OP...

Before starting I.f. I always used slinsane or a similar product and agmatine with carb heavy preworkout meal now that I train fasted I can't take the gda products preworkout

 

[schizm]

Before starting I.f. I always used slinsane or a similar product and agmatine with carb heavy preworkout meal now that I train fasted I can't take the gda products preworkout

Gotch ya...So you looking for more of a single ingredient pump product, a non stim pump pre or stimmed pump pre...or does it matter? Lol
Many have already been stated...I'm a fan of metabolic bioshock (stimmed pre) and is great for fasted training or Purus Condense...otherwise
Non stim pre pump: high volume, Noxygen, hemavol
Single ingredient pump: agmatine, citrulline/cit mal, GMS...

 

[USPlabsRep]

just like the title says. Looking for the best supplement to get a pump while training fasted.

20 grams protein whey/casein...

which contrary to belief (it would stall fat loss in fasted state) could help thermogenesis from the thermic effect of food and the most obvious thing, stop muscle wasting which happens in the fasted state...

 

[McCrew530]

Im logging Quake Right now by Ironflex and it provides a solid pump. I train in the AM and almost always train fasted
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/247006-attn-quake-just.html
In there I have some pre and post work out pics that show the effectiveness of the pump that I get.

 

[mw1]

SNS Agmatine or Iforce potassium nitrate

 

[schizm]

Also, I've been quite impressed with AL's Thunderbolt, which is a pump product...

 

[AaronJP1]

How about that NOxygen from Purus?
Can stack with any pre work out.

 

[abformulations]

Fitmax is a great option. You get your Agmatine for your pump. You also have a focus blend, so if you're training first thing in the morning, it could help you mentally. Also, you don't have to add our own creatine if you like to take it pre workout, although it does not really matter when you get it.

Always wanted to know how much caffeine per scoop on fitmax

 

[digitalducki]

Uncut.

 

[AntM1564]

Always wanted to know how much caffeine per scoop on fitmax

Since it is a prop blend, I do not have that answer. I can try to find out, but cannot make any promises on providing an answer.

 

[cubsfan815]

Always wanted to know how much caffeine per scoop on fitmax

Since it is a prop blend, I do not have that answer. I can try to find out, but cannot make any promises on providing an answer.

While Ant, is checking that out, I can say the caffeine content can't be too high. I am stim sensitive for the most part, and have taken about 1.5 scoops an hour after 1 scoop alphamine, with no ill effect.

Of course I don't recommend doing 1.5 scoops mixed with any other stims.

 

[The Solution]

Hemavol or High volume

These Or Glycergrow or White Pump

 

[Sean1332]

Should start seeing some awesome deals on White Pump as well.

I still need to try High Volume!

 

[Jiigzz]

So many options.

If you're going for single ingredients, check out Citrulline Malate, Potassium Nitrate, Agmatine or GMS.

I don't seek the pump during my workouts, but love feeling full all day. For that I recommend Agmatine @ 500mg pre high carb meals, 500mg pre bed and 500mg upon waking, Xgels pre workout and a GDA like Glycophase or Recompadrol pre high carb meals and bed.

If a pump during a workout is what you're after, Iforce KNO3, High Volume or White Blood are solid options.

 

[xhrr]

You can't go wrong with nitrates and or citrulline which will positively effect performance along with the pump being a welcomed side effect. Doesn't hurt that they have literature to back their effectiveness either.

A product for all day fullness that doesn't get nearly enough love is BBS Protovol. 500mg Hica and 750 mg Agmatine per serving taken 3x a day.

 

[reps4jesus]

just like the title says. Looking for the best supplement to get a pump while training fasted.

People already mentioned it but definitely Try sns agmatine, its effective and affordable.
Some of my best pumps where also when using PWO supps. Gaspari superpump Max was great in terms of pumps. And when I beta tested Olympus labs new preworkout I also had nice pumps.
Just for the straight pump and no stim factor id def go with the agmatine though.

 

[PuZo]

I always take my Hemavol in a fasted state and not other pre's can keep up with it.

 

[money0351]

20 grams protein whey/casein...

which contrary to belief (it would stall fat loss in fasted state) could help thermogenesis from the thermic effect of food and the most obvious thing, stop muscle wasting which happens in the fasted state...

I do not see any reason not to dose a GDA prior to FT (aside from some mild dizziness for some sensitive individuals) personally I dose AP with a preworkout (jack3d or enhanced) and sip BCAA's intra. My feeding windows are generally between 12-8pm and training is around 9am and I have been doing this for years now. I remember a while back USPlabs was beta testing a FTP but don't recall what happened to the protocol logs

 

[RecompMan]

20 grams protein whey/casein... which contrary to belief (it would stall fat loss in fasted state) could help thermogenesis from the thermic effect of food and the most obvious thing, stop muscle wasting which happens in the fasted state...

Boo yah!

I have something in the works that I'm pretty excited about. Still waiting on qoute. But damn it's awesome

 

[veaderko]

I train fasted in the morning. Hemavol is what I use and love it.

 

[cbsharpe]

Boo yah!

I have something in the works that I'm pretty excited about. Still waiting on qoute. But damn it's awesome

Aware us EBF...don't keep us hanging! LOL!

 

[SwolenONE]

I'm surprised I havent seen more votes for arachidonic acid/ X-Factor in this thread.

Take that along with your pre of choice and the pumps will be plentiful!

 

[Bnatural]

Wouldn't take anything with GMS while fasted.

I'd go with citrulline malate (2.5g-5g) + agmatine(1g).

 

[Afi140]

I'm about a week deep on white pump and like the compounding effects as time progress

 

[SwolenONE]

I'm about a week deep on white pump and like the compounding effects as time progress

Great feedback, love the betaine dose in there.

 

[cubsfan815]

Always wanted to know how much caffeine per scoop on fitmax

As far as caffeine, I've never been given a definitive number but we like to liken it to a cup of coffee.

 

[Colbert]

I take agamtine at 500mg-1g pre-workout. Most of the time I take 750mg and it works wonderfully.

 

[FireRescue]

Muscle Feast Ignite 2.0 with Analyzed Supplements GMS. It works great. FWIW - Ignite has a good dose (3.8g) of Leucine.

 

[SwolenONE]

I take agamtine at 500mg-1g pre-workout. Most of the time I take 750mg and it works wonderfully.

Congrats on the new late night gig

 

[Colbert]

Congrats on the new late night gig

Thank you very much sir. I will truly miss my old show but this new theater is WAY bigger than our current one and my staff and I will finally be able to move around freely without being so cramped.

 

[laneanders]

Hemavol is great fasted.

 

[AaronJP1]

You can't go wrong with nitrates and or citrulline which will positively effect performance along with the pump being a welcomed side effect. Doesn't hurt that they have literature to back their effectiveness either. A product for all day fullness that doesn't get nearly enough love is BBS Protovol. 500mg Hica and 750 mg Agmatine per serving taken 3x a day.

Took a look at the Protovol, I may snag a bottle.
Anyone tried the Body Forge 2.0?

 

[aaronuconn]

Took a look at the Protovol, I may snag a bottle. Anyone tried the Body Forge 2.0?

BodyForge 2.0 gets ton of positive feedback. I don't believe NeoGenix has reps on this board (they're not doing promo's here), but you should give it a try.

 

[ddfox]

BodyForge 2.0 gets ton of positive feedback. I don't believe NeoGenix has reps on this board (they're not doing promo's here), but you should give it a try.

Agreed. I was a rep for them a couple years ago -- BodyForge was always my fav. Great non-stim option.

 

[AaronJP1]

BodyForge 2.0 gets ton of positive feedback. I don't believe NeoGenix has reps on this board (they're not doing promo's here), but you should give it a try.

Agreed. I was a rep for them a couple years ago -- BodyForge was always my fav. Great non-stim option.

Yeah they say it's a non stimulant pre work out, but the directions state for everyday use twice a day.
DD, yeah I remember you use to rep for em...

 

[ddfox]

Yeah they say it's a non stimulant pre work out, but the directions state for everyday use twice a day. DD, yeah I remember you use to rep for em...

If I remember, the twice a day was to get your daily does of creatine & beta alanine.

 

[AaronJP1]

If I remember, the twice a day was to get your daily does of creatine & beta alanine.

:thumbsup:

 

[tyga tyga]

Ironflex quake
Appnut N.O uptake
Iforce hemavol