Laxogenin 5a-hydroxy (str3ngth)
- 06-25-2014, 01:12 PM
5ALaxo is a steroidal saponin. There is no PH version, however some companies place it in their PHs as a "boost." Str3ngth, DermaStr3ngth and Anogenin are simply 5ALaxo with no other ingredients. Whether or not this stuff works (biochemically) is up in the air. There are a few scant research papers, but no peer reviewed studies.
I've only seen feedback from SecretABridge in which "subjects" report:
-Better/more fluid joints
-Some strength in the form of new PRs
-Some leaning (but this could be the alleged cortisol reducing properties)
PA had a thread about this way back: (3b,5a,6a,25R)-Spirostan-3,6-diol
I'm interested in anecdotal feedback, but I will never waste money on this when there are such better options out there.
- 06-25-2014, 01:20 PM
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06-25-2014, 01:55 PM
Iron mag labs have it in their halodrol clone but I notice no difference in theirs vs other legit hdrol clones that don't.
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06-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Laxogenin is pretty new to me personally so I haven't done that thorough of legwork to look into it but I have seen numerous claims that most laxogenin products are not effective because they are bogus? I also seem to recall that it's a pretty expensive raw to source in the first place. Any general consensus on this? I only thus far had one person actually tell me over PM that the Blackstone product is super legit but I've never tried any laxo or Blackstone products and for all I know, it may be placebo or it may not be. Anybody else whom have had experience with various laxo products have input on this matter?
06-25-2014, 02:01 PM
06-25-2014, 02:11 PM
I have tested so many H-Drol raws as of late and may have finally found a presentable one but we will see, I am very picky when it comes to Quality Control and having access to options is a must.
06-25-2014, 02:35 PM
06-25-2014, 03:18 PM
That's for the added info
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06-25-2014, 03:51 PM
I was just looking at Str3ngth and DermaStr3ngth, I was pretty surprised at the huge price differential between Str3ngth and Anogenin. It's a $10 difference and you get double the amount with Str3ngth per bottle, how is this possible? Anybody tried both products that can make a compare and contrast? If I give this stuff a go, I would much prefer to go the more economic route, obviously.
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06-26-2014, 12:00 AM
Yes, increased absorption. Oral bioavailability with this ingredient is poor.
06-26-2014, 09:46 AM
I can say this. I was using secretabridge for two months and def had good strength gains. I was using and still am using follidrone and clear muscle. When I stopped the secretabridge I added micro pa. Within the past couple of weeks my strength started to dip, not drastically but enough that I noticed. Anyway I just bought a bottle of Olympus strength yesterday and will see if my strength comes back. I ordered the trans version as well but did not want to wait. I will update in a couple of weeks. Current stack is
olympus strength added as of yesterday
the normal staples
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06-26-2014, 01:40 PM
DermaSTRENGTH will be shipping today a long with DermaTREN and DermaTREST, TransFORM will ship by tomorrow, there was a problem with the labels on that one. I'm 2 doses down on the DermaSTRENGTH and no problems thus far with applying. Dries very fast.
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