The Arachidonic Acid Help Guide

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by STA View Post
    Perfect timing with this thread, I just checked my order status and my X-Gels will be here Thursday!!! So here is my question, I usually have a pre-workout cocktail of 4g beta alanine, 6g citrulline malate, 200mg caffeine (and occasionally I will include 750mg agmatine sulfate). Should I discontinue this and only use X-gels and alcar or can I keep taking my normal pre-workout drink along with the x-gels and alcar? Forgive my ignorance on this subject
    Be careful of too much of a pump... restricting ROM isn't conducive to many of our goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post

    Be careful of too much of a pump... restricting ROM isn't conducive to many of our goals.
    Should be a warning on ARA products. Do not use in a GVT regiment.

    I remember my arms wanting to explode on days I wrapped up workouts with drop sets to failure.
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  3. OK I've got a dumb question... is there anything in my (current) favorite pre-workout stims Uncut or Stimul8 that will impact my Xgels effectiveness??

    Been stacking 1g Xgels, 2 grams LCLT and 6 grams of GMs and its been simply amazing.

    Thanks in advance for your time.

    -Matt

  4. What are the more common sides with ARA, particularly any gi sides reported commonly?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by STA View Post
    ^^^ Perfect thanks gents. One more question. So should I dose the ArA+ALCAR 45 minutes out then my normal pre-workout like I always do (about 15 minutes pre?) or take it all 45 minutes before
    The first way with the seperate dosing would work very well.

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Be careful of too much of a pump... restricting ROM isn't conducive to many of our goals.
    Haha this indeed. If it gets to the point where you cannot scratch your traps, you've gone too far

    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    Should be a warning on ARA products. Do not use in a GVT regiment.

    I remember my arms wanting to explode on days I wrapped up workouts with drop sets to failure.
    I used Max Pump with my first ever Xgels run. Pumps were crazy. I tend to wear lose fitting t shirts to the gym but by the time I was done, the thing felt like an XS lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by slimsaw00 View Post
    OK I've got a dumb question... is there anything in my (current) favorite pre-workout stims Uncut or Stimul8 that will impact my Xgels effectiveness??

    Been stacking 1g Xgels, 2 grams LCLT and 6 grams of GMs and its been simply amazing.

    Thanks in advance for your time.

    -Matt
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by MultiVitamin View Post
    Post this before, but for what it's worth..

    The standard ArA cycle would contain;
    1-2g ArA (1.5g seems to be the sweet spot)
    2g LCLT (or some form of carinitine)
    3-6g GMS

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    Advanced Cycle:
    1-2g ArA
    2g LCLT
    3-6g GMS
    2-5g HCA
    4caps ABE

    Each having their own reason, of course.

    Carnitine would would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes, enhances lipid packaging and enterocyte (lymphatic) absorption

    GMS enhance emulsification in attempt to kinetically enhance the delivery of ArA to the enterocytes, and then to the lymphatics

    HCA will aid in cellular uptake of extra ArA

    Anabeta Elite (via the ingredient Lodhra Bark) going to inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes

    Good thread. Hopefully you can get a sticky
    What is HCA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by drseuss6969 View Post

    What is HCA?
    Hydroxycitric acid,

    Found in supplements such as Metabolic Powder as it is usually used as a carb-blocker
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  8. Good thread man.
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  9. That's a really good writeup dude.

    Just change norepinephrine to epinephrine in the insulin part and you can have my unbridled love

  10. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    That's a really good writeup dude.

    Just change norepinephrine to epinephrine in the insulin part and you can have my unbridled love
    Thanks Coop. Noted and changed.
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  11. Is a four week break from ara enough?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by drseuss6969 View Post
    Is a four week break from ara enough?
    Good Q! Ill find an answer and then include it in the OP
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by slimsaw00 View Post
    Great post!! ArA stacked with LCLT and Micronized GMS has quickly become my favorite stack.

    -Matt
    How much GMS Micronized are you taking with it?

  14. I wanted to stack this with NATADROL, however it has a cissus extract in it? Any thoughts to dosing these together?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    How much GMS Micronized are you taking with it?
    3-6g

  16. @mr.cooper69 or anyone else who wants to comment

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    Adenosine Antagonism stimulates PLA2a.

    Caffeine -> Adenosine Antagonism -> PLA2a -> Arachidonic acid metabolism

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    NMDA Receptor activation stimulates PLA2a.

    DAA -> NMDA Receptor -> PLA2a - > Arachidonic acid metabolism

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    Both of these of course dependent on increased 6:3 fat ratio in cell membranes, as PLA2a doesn't discriminate.

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    @mr.cooper69 or anyone else who wants to comment

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    Adenosine Antagonism stimulates PLA2a.

    Caffeine -> Adenosine Antagonism -> PLA2a -> Arachidonic acid metabolism

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    NMDA Receptor activation stimulates PLA2a.

    DAA -> NMDA Receptor -> PLA2a - > Arachidonic acid metabolism

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    Both of these of course dependent on increased 6:3 fat ratio in cell membranes, as PLA2a doesn't discriminate.

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    This is true, but this step is really way too upstream to be specific to muscle hypertrophy. First, the relevant PLA2 would have to be localized to skeletal muscle (which rules out NMDA) and second, all it's doing is freeing arachidonic acid, which can be converted into any number of hundreds of possible endpoints. The one we want to increase expression of specifically is PGF2a. So perhaps in a PGF2a-inducing state (i.e. exercise), caffeine may free up additional ArA for this pathway. But that's really just conjecture on my part

  18. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    This is true, but this step is really way too upstream to be specific to muscle hypertrophy. First, the relevant PLA2 would have to be localized to skeletal muscle (which rules out NMDA) and second, all it's doing is freeing arachidonic acid, which can be converted into any number of hundreds of possible endpoints. The one we want to increase expression of specifically is PGF2a. So perhaps in a PGF2a-inducing state (i.e. exercise), caffeine may free up additional ArA for this pathway. But that's really just conjecture on my part
    Well, with regards to caffeine there has actually been study on synergy of arachidonic acid in caffeine induced apoptosis.

    While that's obviously entirely irrelevant in the exercise context, that indicates some level of interaction between them.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by De__eB View Post
    Well, with regards to caffeine there has actually been study on synergy of arachidonic acid in caffeine induced apoptosis.

    While that's obviously entirely irrelevant in the exercise context, that indicates some level of interaction between them.

    Yeah of the two you mentioned caffeine has potential, just gotta induce the right pathway

  21. Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    How much GMS Micronized are you taking with it?
    Approximately 5-6 grams. . . My AS GMS did not have a scoop (that I'm aware of) so I use one full/heaping 5g scoop from an old jug of creatine.


    -Matt

  22. Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post
    I wanted to stack this with NATADROL, however it has a cissus extract in it? Any thoughts to dosing these together?
    bump?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by chainsaw View Post

    bump?
    Ill have a look. A small amount is fine but too high is counter productive. Does it need to be dosed bear Ara?
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Ill have a look. A small amount is fine but too high is counter productive. Does it need to be dosed bear Ara?
    Cissus is the first ingredient in the blend. And I believe a higher dose of Natadrol is suppose to be dosed pre-workout.
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post

    Cissus is the first ingredient in the blend. And I believe a higher dose of Natadrol is suppose to be dosed pre-workout.
    Ah, thanks kbayne. I cant google from this crappy phone. It may be a good idea, if the dose is significant enough, to run Ars after natadrol
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