The Arachidonic Acid Help Guide

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    ARA can make insulin sensitivity worse?
    Supplemental Ara or ARA in general?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Supplemental Ara or ARA in general?
    Supplemental Ara!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bb333 View Post
    ARA can make insulin sensitivity worse?
    Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    I've never heard of it doing that.
    If anything quite the opposite. The signaling that occurs from arachidonic acid during and after exercise increases insulin receptor sensitivity, as well as igf-1 receptor sensitivity, among others.

  4. I am not sure if someone mentioned GLA supplementation in regards to ArA supplementation, so I thought I'd add this info to the thread. I have a bottle of borage oil in my cabinet and was considering trying it again for eczema (not proven to work here but I already have the oil so what the heck, right?). Borage oil is supplemented for its GLA content. As we can see, referring to the image, GLA converts to DGLA. DGLA can go one of two ways. It can itself directly convert to ArA (another theoretical reason I was considering adding it to the ArA I am taking preworkout), however, in the human body the majority of DGLA (in regards to what came from higher doses of supplemental GLA, not normal dietary amounts) actually goes to the left and creates anti-inflammatory cytokines, which directly compete and inhibit the effects of ArA. So, I concluded that I will be saving the GLA for a later date and not combine with ArA. I know this supplement is not used by many people, or even heard of by some, but in case you got the idea of it converting to ArA and helping, think again. It likely would hinder the benefits of taking ArA in supplemental doses.

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  5. Hi. I have the following supplements that I've bought over the past few month but have not used.

    Two bottle SNS X-Gels
    Two bottles OL Ep1logue
    Two bottles OL Massacr3
    Two bottles Blackstone labs Growth
    Two bottles EPG Testo-shred
    1 lb bag of Glycerol Monostearate
    Two bottles of PES Anabeta Elite

    Along with the normal Protein (PES Select), 12 lbs bag of NOW Carbo gain, a few bottles of BCAAS and pre workouts.
    I have an idea how I was going to stack them but I just never got around to using them since I felt like my diet was not on point and I would just be wasting my money.
    I am 186 lbs and about 17% Body-fat. I want to get to 200 lbs 8-10%.
    I have only ever used the normal protein, creatine, bcaa etc.
    Please give me some advice on how I can stack these to get maximum benefit and reach my goals. If it means I can get two seperate stacks from the above list and run them consecutively or use all together (unlikely).
    I know this is asking alot from your time, but please bear with me.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    If anything quite the opposite. The signaling that occurs from arachidonic acid during and after exercise increases insulin receptor sensitivity, as well as igf-1 receptor sensitivity, among others.
    Good! Thank you!

  7. What exactly are carnitine salts though? Is that like any form of carnitine? Or is it something specific?

    Either way, from reading the thread i guess the consensus would be that the baby aspirin works better?

    Is it ok to use white willow bark in its place?

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  8. Quote Originally Posted by mjm198122 View Post
    Hi. I have the following supplements that I've bought over the past few month but have not used.

    Two bottle SNS X-Gels
    Two bottles OL Ep1logue
    Two bottles OL Massacr3
    Two bottles Blackstone labs Growth
    Two bottles EPG Testo-shred
    1 lb bag of Glycerol Monostearate
    Two bottles of PES Anabeta Elite

    Along with the normal Protein (PES Select), 12 lbs bag of NOW Carbo gain, a few bottles of BCAAS and pre workouts.
    I have an idea how I was going to stack them but I just never got around to using them since I felt like my diet was not on point and I would just be wasting my money.
    I am 186 lbs and about 17% Body-fat. I want to get to 200 lbs 8-10%.
    I have only ever used the normal protein, creatine, bcaa etc.
    Please give me some advice on how I can stack these to get maximum benefit and reach my goals. If it means I can get two seperate stacks from the above list and run them consecutively or use all together (unlikely).
    I know this is asking alot from your time, but please bear with me.
    I would run the X gels and glycerine first. Start X gels at 6 caps on workout days, 30 minutes before you workouts. Run until you are out. Then run the other stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by HAMinTheTrap View Post
    What exactly are carnitine salts though? Is that like any form of carnitine? Or is it something specific?

    Either way, from reading the thread i guess the consensus would be that the baby aspirin works better?

    Is it ok to use white willow bark in its place?

    @Jiigzz
    Most people run ALCAR. You can run 81mg aspirin so white willow bark might work...
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  9. Female dosing? 110lb.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by HAMinTheTrap View Post
    What exactly are carnitine salts though? Is that like any form of carnitine? Or is it something specific?

    Either way, from reading the thread i guess the consensus would be that the baby aspirin works better?

    Is it ok to use white willow bark in its place?
    @Jiigzz
    Baby aspirin is the best, IMO. And super cheap
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Baby aspirin is the best, IMO. And super cheap
    Aspirin instead of salts?
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    Aspirin instead of salts?
    If you're just after the benefit of cox1 inhibition, yeah definitely
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by mase1 View Post
    Female dosing? 110lb.
    Personally, if I were you, I'd start with 4 gels (recommended dosing) and go from there.

    I notice a better pump with 6-8 but I'm usually anywhere between 190-200lbs. If you've never used them before, I'd highly recommend them assuming you don't have any inflammatory related health issues. Great strength, great pumps, much improved all day muscle fullness.
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  15. When do we start putting ara next to creatine as one of the best supplements ever.

  16. I'm thinking about running X-Gels after my 2nd bottle of MassMax is gone as ARA supplementation really seems to be getting more and more proven as time goes on. I may even stack X-Gels and MassMax since my training is in the morning (6am), giving me enough time throughout the day to dose MassMax away from X-Gels. Hmm..

  17. This has so much info, it’s insane. Everything makes sense here so thanks for all the mind blowing knowledge. My small question though: what’s the consensus on off days? Dosing or not dosing? I’m taking the ARA by enhanced athlete with my PWO and it feels amazing, definitely sore. Was just wondering about off days. I usually do 5 on with weekends off. I follow a Keto diet weekdays and carb refeed on weekends. Any advice would be much appreciated. TIA.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Iknownothing View Post
    This has so much info, it’s insane. Everything makes sense here so thanks for all the mind blowing knowledge. My small question though: what’s the consensus on off days? Dosing or not dosing? I’m taking the ARA by enhanced athlete with my PWO and it feels amazing, definitely sore. Was just wondering about off days. I usually do 5 on with weekends off. I follow a Keto diet weekdays and carb refeed on weekends. Any advice would be much appreciated. TIA.
    The general consensus is that ArA only needs to be dosed on training days, before your workout. This allows the ArA to get into the muscle tissue more effectively due to the stimulus from training. There is little to no benefit with dosing on off days
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by john.patterson View Post
    The general consensus is that ArA only needs to be dosed on training days, before your workout. This allows the ArA to get into the muscle tissue more effectively due to the stimulus from training. There is little to no benefit with dosing on off days
    That’s what I was figuring. Thank you for the help. Just picked up some lecithin and baby aspirin so I’m all set.

    Lastly, I am running a DAA stack. Should pose no problem correct? I take the pills at night, and don’t workout until about 4-5pm in the day. I know it’s a different product all together but just wanted to make sure there wasn’t an issue.

  20. as far as the studies state inflammation doesnt occur during ara supplementation, every time I try to take it I get all kinds of aches and pains in my joints and muscles where former injuries occurred. I wish I could continue but never get through a full bottle before its unbearable. With all the results people get from it Id love to give it a full go but Ive tried on 3 separate occasions and never was able to get through a full 50 days. perhaps its my age and injury history but sadly its just not for me.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ironkill View Post
    as far as the studies state inflammation doesnt occur during ara supplementation, every time I try to take it I get all kinds of aches and pains in my joints and muscles where former injuries occurred. I wish I could continue but never get through a full bottle before its unbearable. With all the results people get from it Id love to give it a full go but Ive tried on 3 separate occasions and never was able to get through a full 50 days. perhaps its my age and injury history but sadly its just not for me.
    You certainly are not alone in your experience. Having preexisting injuries and/or an established inflammatory based disease/condition can definitely lead to exacerbations with ARA supplementation. Itís important to remember that the studies showing no increase in inflammatory markers or negative side effects were done with healthy male subject who likely did not have any preexisting issues before taking the ARA. in your case Iíd deff stay away from taking it simply because the risk of reinflaming an old injury could lead to counterproductive results, ie you get hurt again and end up worse off from where you started.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by dcoen21 View Post
    When do we start putting ara next to creatine as one of the best supplements ever.
    Already is in my book There is a reason why most non staple supplements from 2006 aren't around anymore and ArA still is.

    Quote Originally Posted by blongo804 View Post
    I'm thinking about running X-Gels after my 2nd bottle of MassMax is gone as ARA supplementation really seems to be getting more and more proven as time goes on. I may even stack X-Gels and MassMax since my training is in the morning (6am), giving me enough time throughout the day to dose MassMax away from X-Gels. Hmm..

    kick ass stack right there!

    Quote Originally Posted by Iknownothing View Post
    This has so much info, itís insane. Everything makes sense here so thanks for all the mind blowing knowledge. My small question though: whatís the consensus on off days? Dosing or not dosing? Iím taking the ARA by enhanced athlete with my PWO and it feels amazing, definitely sore. Was just wondering about off days. I usually do 5 on with weekends off. I follow a Keto diet weekdays and carb refeed on weekends. Any advice would be much appreciated. TIA.
    Just an FYI but ENhanced Althlete ArA is kind of a scam (or at least super untruthful). They label their supplement so it look like its a large dose but it's actually much more expensive than X gels an X factor. There is discussion on it in this thread. Next time opt for X gels

    Quote Originally Posted by Iknownothing View Post
    Thatís what I was figuring. Thank you for the help. Just picked up some lecithin and baby aspirin so Iím all set.

    Lastly, I am running a DAA stack. Should pose no problem correct? I take the pills at night, and donít workout until about 4-5pm in the day. I know itís a different product all together but just wanted to make sure there wasnít an issue.
    DAA should be fine.
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  23. I was reading that’s Cissus would be counter productive as well as taking ARA. Are there any joint supplements that I can take that wont interfere with the process? How about Hyaluronic Acid? Gluco/MSM mix?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Iknownothing View Post
    I was reading that’s Cissus would be counter productive as well as taking ARA. Are there any joint supplements that I can take that wont interfere with the process? How about Hyaluronic Acid? Gluco/MSM mix?
    It is best to avoid using for roughly 6 hours after ARA, but they can still be taken in the same day. Being that it is a COX-2 inhibitor, for maximum ARA benefit just dose further away
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    It is best to avoid using for roughly 6 hours after ARA, but they can still be taken in the same day. Being that it is a COX-2 inhibitor, for maximum ARA benefit just dose further away
    Understood. Thank you. I was curious because I’ve got a disk that tends to flair up occasionally so I was curious. Although, I feel like cissus doesn’t do that much. I do like my collagen/hyoluranic combo though.
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