The Arachidonic Acid Help Guide

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  1. Do u guys notice much of a difference between 6 gels pre workout and 8-10? also has anyone used this following IF and noticed much different than a regular diet? trying to keep BF down/slight loss while getting back into lifting more. I have been basically going 2-3 das a week with very little attentnion to diet. I am wanting to quickly get back some lost size and hopefully recomp some


  2. I honestly don't know how Ara could cause water retention.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    I honestly don't know how Ara could cause water retention.
    same way creatine makes select few ppl super water bloated

    (it doesnt)

  4. Quote Originally Posted by igflift View Post
    same way creatine makes select few ppl super water bloated

    (it doesnt)
    This might be something I look into once im near a computer haha.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    This might be something I look into once im near a computer haha.
    lol I suppose its possible, same withcreatine but I think its mostly in peoples heads/other factors contributing
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by igflift View Post
    Do u guys notice much of a difference between 6 gels pre workout and 8-10?
    4-6 xgels preworkout on an empty stomach gives me a great pump. 8-10 makes my muscles so full that my arms go numb sometimes and interferes with the workout. Try it and see if dosing that high has any positive effect for u I guess.

  7. more muscle fullness leading to higher water retention like creatine. l-arginine, peak02, creatine all do this for me. im gonna see the difference coming off ara for a week without changing diet nor activity level to see how my body responds.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by 50Magnum View Post
    ah no, my metabolism is alot faster because of my workload and activity level compared to my teenage years, i use to bulk on 2600 calories when i was younger, nowadays if i eat 2600 calories a start to drop weight. ive been eating around 2000-2100 calories since taking x-gels and i usually drop a ****load of weight with this little calories, but literally i havent lost much weight and dont even really look leaner. i think ara causes water retention for me, i take 1.5-1.75 pre workout, when i was on x factor i never even took that amount so thats why i couldnt really see the changes, i guarantee that once im come off ara, my weight will prolly drop an extra 6-7 lb of water.
    That is really strange. Never heard of ArA causing water retention. And like I said earlier, the original x factor and x gels are exactly the same thing so it's probably not the x gels.
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  9. It's funny maybe it's in my head but I feel like I am on. I have only been on ara for about a week and it reminds me of being on nice alpha feeling and pump is nice!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by dcoen21 View Post
    It's funny maybe it's in my head but I feel like I am on. I have only been on ara for about a week and it reminds me of being on nice alpha feeling and pump is nice!
    I notice the pumps pretty quickly. I'm getting anxious to try it again soon, I used it on a cut last time and it was good, but bulking is better. If I can get a good deal I'd like to try it at 2g or more to experiment lol

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    I notice the pumps pretty quickly. I'm getting anxious to try it again soon, I used it on a cut last time and it was good, but bulking is better. If I can get a good deal I'd like to try it at 2g or more to experiment lol
    Was just searching around online and I'm not finding any real deals on xgels right now. Honestly it's kind of weird I'm seeing hardly anybody with them in stock at the moment. Best deal I can find is for like $37/bottle from a supp website I've never heard of or used before. If anybody finds something a pm would be greatly appreciated

  12. Quote Originally Posted by JPARKS42 View Post
    Was just searching around online and I'm not finding any real deals on xgels right now. Honestly it's kind of weird I'm seeing hardly anybody with them in stock at the moment. Best deal I can find is for like $37/bottle from a supp website I've never heard of or used before. If anybody finds something a pm would be greatly appreciated
    Strange. Let me ask the boss and get back to you.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by JPARKS42 View Post
    Was just searching around online and I'm not finding any real deals on xgels right now. Honestly it's kind of weird I'm seeing hardly anybody with them in stock at the moment. Best deal I can find is for like $37/bottle from a supp website I've never heard of or used before. If anybody finds something a pm would be greatly appreciated
    Yeah I've never really seen it for anything cheaper than that. I haven't looked into whether anyone's tried or had success with a higher dose than normal. Otherwise 3 bottles comes out to a decent price for what it does.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JPARKS42 View Post
    Was just searching around online and I'm not finding any real deals on xgels right now. Honestly it's kind of weird I'm seeing hardly anybody with them in stock at the moment. Best deal I can find is for like $37/bottle from a supp website I've never heard of or used before. If anybody finds something a pm would be greatly appreciated
    Yeah there is a big shortage of x gels right now. I'll get back to you when I know when places will be restocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    Yeah I've never really seen it for anything cheaper than that. I haven't looked into whether anyone's tried or had success with a higher dose than normal. Otherwise 3 bottles comes out to a decent price for what it does.
    Sometimes you see it for $31-32.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by rascal14 View Post
    Yeah I've never really seen it for anything cheaper than that. I haven't looked into whether anyone's tried or had success with a higher dose than normal. Otherwise 3 bottles comes out to a decent price for what it does.
    I can usually find them for $33-35/ bottle but at stores I've heard of/board sponsors or a few of the other popular websites that have other things I want to order with them. Upon a second look I found them at nutriverse, nutraplanet is sold out, a few other of my favorite sites are sold out or maybe not carry them. The priceplow search is the first thing I used and the results aren't very impressive which is what raised my initial concern.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by warbird01 View Post
    Yeah there is a big shortage of x gels right now. I'll get back to you when I know when places will be restocked.



    Sometimes you see it for $31-32.
    I though I was beginning to lose my mind. Thank you.

  17. I must be buying at the wrong times then.. lol

  18. Bought X factor og formula 200 capsules a couple of months ago. Was taking 4-6 capsules on training days. DOMS pain and joint pain was unbearable - had to stop doing skull crusher's as i do them heavy (80kg) and elbows were getting @&#&#. Shoulder joints were also regularly in extreme pain after doing heavy military presses. Was not functional at all. Soldiered through to 158 capsules. Throwing the rest away now as the pain from the inflammation is getting more and more horrible. On the plus side pumps were wicked and looked more muscular/vascular in general though nothing mind blowing as no size increase or substantial strength gains. Just good body recomp. As I'm on a bulk and looking to add size, am taking magnitropin instead now which I'm absolutely loving.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by lfc1 View Post
    Bought X factor og formula 200 capsules a couple of months ago. Was taking 4-6 capsules on training days. DOMS pain and joint pain was unbearable - had to stop doing skull crusher's as i do them heavy (80kg) and elbows were getting @&#&#. Shoulder joints were also regularly in extreme pain after doing heavy military presses. Was not functional at all. Soldiered through to 158 capsules. Throwing the rest away now as the pain from the inflammation is getting more and more horrible. On the plus side pumps were wicked and looked more muscular/vascular in general though nothing mind blowing as no size increase or substantial strength gains. Just good body recomp. As I'm on a bulk and looking to add size, am taking magnitropin instead now which I'm absolutely loving.
    That sucks man. At least you know your body doesn't respond to x factor now? lol
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  20. I've been on SNS Xgels for 20 training sessions now and without a doubt I've gotten stronger but the pumps are incredible as well lol

    Literally, hands down the best non hormonal product on the market. I prefer this to all the 5a lax and -(-)epi supplements.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    I've been on SNS Xgels for 20 training sessions now and without a doubt I've gotten stronger but the pumps are incredible as well lol

    Literally, hands down the best non hormonal product on the market. I prefer this to all the 5a lax and -(-)epi supplements.
    How much are you dosing?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by JPARKS42 View Post
    How much are you dosing?
    1g with my pre workout. Typically 30-40min before I lift.
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  23. Was mostly curious to see if you were going with 1g as it seems a lot of people have "recently" determined that they prefer 1.5g. I've only tried 1g with good results but have been considering 1.5 on my upcoming run

  24. Ok so I tried reading through the entire thread and got about halfway through before say f it and taking the lazy route.. about to start my bulk and plan on adding in CEL M-test, ABE, and X-Gels into my stack. my peri workout nutrition looks like this:
    2:00- 30g whey, 80g oats
    2:45- follidrone 2.0, 500mg agmatine
    3:15- pre workout (Tr1umph+ Re1gn or Rupture, extend GO, HMB)
    4:00- workout
    6:00- 50g whey, 75g carbs, HMB, creatine, and l-carnitine.

    How should I dose the X-Gels and ABE to maximize effectiveness? Forgive my laziness as this is a very long thread and I have bad ADD lol
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    The Arachidonic Acid Help Guide


    Np, we appreciate that you read as far as you did sir

    ABE is best used 2 caps per dose with your 2 largest meals, proximity to your lift is not necessary.

    X-gels should be taken either 4 or 6 caps at a time for 1-1.5g ARA,
    It should be taken with your pre

    Looks like your pre varies, if it has a carnitine salt in it that is a bonus alongside ARA.
    If not consider adding a cheap bulk LCLT or ALCAR
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