Ara Stack Help

[cotrone407]

Hey Everyone,

I have taken PH's and natty cycles before but been away for a little bit. Im back at it now!

I have been trying to search for a complete stack with dosage and all the info but cannot not find anything helpful. I think if we had a complete list with dosage and information it would give many newbies such as my self great help. I am looking to use the following supps for my next stack.

ARA
Anabeta
Erase

Im so confused when I try and research ARA, I see many people talking about X gels, is that ARA? I would love to do a 8 week cycle for these products but understand some are shorter then others and or longer. Can someone please explain what products of ARA you recommend as well with the dosing. I have taken Erase Original and it dried me out well. Many people say that the original Anabeta and Erase are much better is this true?

If im doing a 8 Week cycle how would you recommend me going about the following, products, dosage and tips?

Thank You as always for your help and input.

 

[R1balla]

Hey Everyone,

I have taken PH's and natty cycles before but been away for a little bit. Im back at it now!

I have been trying to search for a complete stack with dosage and all the info but cannot not find anything helpful. I think if we had a complete list with dosage and information it would give many newbies such as my self great help. I am looking to use the following supps for my next stack.

ARA
Anabeta
Erase

Im so confused when I try and research ARA, I see many people talking about X gels, is that ARA? I would love to do a 8 week cycle for these products but understand some are shorter then others and or longer. Can someone please explain what products of ARA you recommend as well with the dosing. I have taken Erase Original and it dried me out well. Many people say that the original Anabeta and Erase are much better is this true?

If im doing a 8 Week cycle how would you recommend me going about the following, products, dosage and tips?

Thank You as always for your help and input.

First off, ArA isn't really measured by amount of weeks. You only use it on training days and the suggested amount is 50 training days so it ends up being more than 8 weeks usually. And yes, x gels is ArA. ArA is short for the main ingredient in X gels.

As far as dosing, use erase and anabeta as suggested on the product label. Start with 1g of ArA for a little bit and u can work your way up to 1.5g area if you want. Only training days and pre workout. Hope this helps

 

[xLGx]

Unless you want your joints to be hurting REAL bad, I would not recommend ArA and Erase.

 

[thetev]

Unless you want your joints to be hurting REAL bad, I would not recommend ArA and Erase.

I'm currently on xfa and the new formula erase and my joints feel the same. I'm sure it's different for everyone though. It may be because I'm taking the new formula but idk never tried og

 

[xLGx]

X-Gels > XFA. You're going to feel more joint pain without stupidly-included Omega-3s.

 

[thetev]

X-Gels > XFA. You're going to feel more joint pain without stupidly-included Omega-3s.

Yeah I would have rather gotten xgels but xfa was at a much better price. After I'm done ill wait a couple months then hopefully get xgels and maybe anabeta or something with it

 

[warbird01]

You will love ArA and erase! One of my favorite natty stacks

 

[warbird01]

I'm currently on xfa and the new formula erase and my joints feel the same. I'm sure it's different for everyone though. It may be because I'm taking the new formula but idk never tried og

X gels+ OG erase didn't affect my joints at all

 

[R1balla]

Unless you want your joints to be hurting REAL bad, I would not recommend ArA and Erase.

I've never had issues

 

[criticalbench]

X gels+ OG erase didn't affect my joints at all

On paper it should, but I like most others including yourself.. don't feel the effect.

Mike

 

[heavylifter33]

You "could" give X Gels and Erase a try, the beauty is you can play with the dosages of both and find your own sweet spot. Don't let E2 go down too low or you'll really feel it in your joints. At 1.5g a day of ArA i've never had joint issues, but others react differently. Let us know how it goes man.

 

[Jiigzz]

Hey Everyone,

I have taken PH's and natty cycles before but been away for a little bit. Im back at it now!

I have been trying to search for a complete stack with dosage and all the info but cannot not find anything helpful. I think if we had a complete list with dosage and information it would give many newbies such as my self great help. I am looking to use the following supps for my next stack.

ARA
Anabeta
Erase

Im so confused when I try and research ARA, I see many people talking about X gels, is that ARA? I would love to do a 8 week cycle for these products but understand some are shorter then others and or longer. Can someone please explain what products of ARA you recommend as well with the dosing. I have taken Erase Original and it dried me out well. Many people say that the original Anabeta and Erase are much better is this true?

If im doing a 8 Week cycle how would you recommend me going about the following, products, dosage and tips?

Thank You as always for your help and input.

Xgels is indeed Arachidonic Acid (Ara for short). The cycle you have planned will serve you well. As far as Anabeta and Erase potency, the new Anabeta is superior no doubt to the old whilst the old Erase may have a slight edge over the new if anecdotal feedback is the only measure.
IMO PES did the right thing by dropping arimistane and reformulating and I look forward to giving it a try.

Start with 1g of Xgels and see how that treats you.

 

[MultiVitamin]

The standard ArA cycle would contain;
1-2g ArA (1.5g seems to be the sweet spot)
2g LCLT (or some form of carinitine)
3-6g GMS

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Advanced Cycle:
1-2g ArA
2g LCLT
3-6g GMS
2-5g HCA
4caps ABE

Each having their own reason, of course.

Carnitine would would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes, enhances lipid packaging and enterocyte (lymphatic) absorption

GMS enhance emulsification in attempt to kinetically enhance the delivery of ArA to the enterocytes, and then to the lymphatics

HCA will aid in cellular uptake of extra ArA

Anabeta Elite (via the ingredient Lodhra Bark) going to inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes

 

[MultiVitamin]

EDIT: double post

BUT; to answer your question on ArA w/ Erase; I've used both and enjoyed both. I think they would make a nice stack as long as you can handle joint sides. I never had an issue with Erase and up until my last ArA run never had an issue with it either. GL

 

[aaronuconn]

The joint issues are very individualized with ArA and Erase it seems. Some are fine, while others may end up noticing issues.

 

[SpongeTom]

The standard ArA cycle would contain;
1-2g ArA (1.5g seems to be the sweet spot)
2g LCLT (or some form of carinitine)
3-6g GMS

-----------------------

Advanced Cycle:
1-2g ArA
2g LCLT
3-6g GMS
2-5g HCA
4caps ABE

Each having their own reason, of course.

Carnitine would would inhibit ArA being broken down into thromboxanes, enhances lipid packaging and enterocyte (lymphatic) absorption

GMS enhance emulsification in attempt to kinetically enhance the delivery of ArA to the enterocytes, and then to the lymphatics

HCA will aid in cellular uptake of extra ArA

Anabeta Elite (via the ingredient Lodhra Bark) going to inhibit ArA being broken down into luekotrienes

Thanks mate, this is bloody great information!

 

[cotrone407]

Thanks mate, this is bloody great information!

Thats what I'm talking about!

Thanks for this info!

 

[cotrone407]

How do these supps look? I know that Ara is only taken on training days. but do I need more bottles or Erase and ABE for a 8 Week Run?

 

[kissdadookie]

I've never had issues

Same here. My last run was with Erase (OG). I then ran a bottle of Free Test afterwards (so that's a 12-week arimistane run essentially) because I had a bottle from goodness knows when on my shelf that I found. If anything, near the end of the 12-weeks, I felt a little sluggish and I would say that's most definitely due to too much e suppression, but that didn't happen until around week 10. No joint issues that I can strike up to the XF or the arimistane though.

 

[SwolenONE]

For more info on ArA please visit Arachidonic.com

X-gels or X-Factor are the two main ArA products out there. X-Factor has been on the market about 9 years longer, is the original ArA product, has been clinically validated w two human clinical trials, and is actually cheaper at NP. Cant go wrong w either one though.

 

[cbsharpe]

I just started using Erase today as a matter of fact. I'm on bottle #2 with ArA and have experienced zero joint pain. Since I am adding Erase to the mix, this is my arsenal:

Pre workout:
1.5 grams Ara
2 grams of PLCAR
3 grams of DAA
2 grams of TMG

Post workout:
Protein
(1) Erase

I will be taking Erase 3 times spread out through the day. On my work out days, I will be taking one pill post work out per recommendation.

 

[kissdadookie]

I just started using Erase today as a matter of fact. I'm on bottle #2 with ArA and have experienced zero joint pain. Since I am adding Erase to the mix, this is my arsenalre workout:1.5 grams Ara2 grams of PLCAR3 grams of DAA2 grams of TMGPost workoutrotein(1) EraseI will be taking Erase 3 times spread out through the day. On my work out days, I will be taking one pill post work out per recommendation.

Hmmmm... I wonder if it makes a difference to split up the Erase doses (OG). I might try that soon.

 

[Jiigzz]

For more info on ArA please visit Arachidonic.com

X-gels or X-Factor are the two main ArA products out there. X-Factor has been on the market about 9 years longer, is the original ArA product, has been clinically validated w two human clinical trials, and is actually cheaper at NP. Cant go wrong w either one though.

They are exactly the same, ergo they are both clinically validated.

If we are trying to one-up each other and be petty, then i'll remind all people ITT that SNS fives away free product when you save up enough labels

 

[fightnews]

I'm currently on xfa and the new formula erase and my joints feel the same. I'm sure it's different for everyone though. It may be because I'm taking the new formula but idk never tried og

me too

 

[fightnews]

X gels+ OG erase didn't affect my joints at all

Whats the big diffrence between og erase and erase pro that Im using. Don't they have the same amount of the original ingredient?

 

[Jiigzz]

Whats the big diffrence between og erase and erase pro that Im using. Don't they have the same amount of the original ingredient?

OG Erase and OG Erase Pro use the same active but for a full serving of EPro you will use 75mg of the active (to get the proper dosages of the secondary ingredients) whereas OG Erase contains only 25mg of the active so you can customize dosing

 

[cbsharpe]

Hmmmm... I wonder if it makes a difference to split up the Erase doses (OG). I might try that soon.

Well, hopefully in a couple of weeks or so, I will let you if this dosage is working for me....

 

[cotrone407]

I just started using Erase today as a matter of fact. I'm on bottle #2 with ArA and have experienced zero joint pain. Since I am adding Erase to the mix, this is my arsenal:

Pre workout:
1.5 grams Ara
2 grams of PLCAR
3 grams of DAA
2 grams of TMG

Post workout:
Protein
(1) Erase

I will be taking Erase 3 times spread out through the day. On my work out days, I will be taking one pill post work out per recommendation.

What products are you using for the following?
2 grams of PLCAR
3 grams of DAA
2 grams of TMG

What about LCLT and GMS?

 

[cbsharpe]

What products are you using for the following?
2 grams of PLCAR
3 grams of DAA
2 grams of TMG

What about LCLT and GMS?

NGN Glycoenergy (PLCAR)
Vitamin Shoppe (TMG)
AI Sports Nutrition (DAA)
Analyzed Supplements (GMS)

 

[criticalbench]

For more info on ArA please visit Arachidonic.com

X-gels or X-Factor are the two main ArA products out there. X-Factor has been on the market about 9 years longer, is the original ArA product, has been clinically validated w two human clinical trials, and is actually cheaper at NP. Cant go wrong w either one though.

Had no idea about that site.. checking it out now!

Mike

 

[kbayne]

Unless you want your joints to be hurting REAL bad, I would not recommend ArA and Erase.

Yeah, this isn't true for everyone...

 

[kbayne]

How do these supps look? I know that Ara is only taken on training days. but do I need more bottles or Erase and ABE for a 8 Week Run? <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=97944"/>

You'll need two bottle of ABE and Erase for an 8 week run.

Hmmmm... I wonder if it makes a difference to split up the Erase doses (OG). I might try that soon.

Plenty have done the full dose vs splitting up throughout the day and there weren't any noticeable differences.

 

[SwolenONE]

Had no idea about that site.. checking it out now!

Mike

Yes sir, been around for many years and will be getting a lot of new content very soon.

 

[aaronuconn]

Yes sir, been around for many years and will be getting a lot of new content very soon.

The health/wellness section is interesting.

 

[kissdadookie]

Plenty have done the full dose vs splitting up throughout the day and there weren't any noticeable differences.

I'll continue with my 3 caps down the hatch first thing in the morning thing then

 

[SwolenONE]

The health/wellness section is interesting.

Thanks, that will also get a big update as there have been a lot of recent health studies on ArA. Undoubtedly one of the safest ingredients on the market.

 

[aaronuconn]

Thanks, that will also get a big update as there have been a lot of recent health studies on ArA. Undoubtedly one of the safest ingredients on the market.

It's also interesting to see what the studies say about 1.5g ArA and Platlet Aggression.

 

[SwolenONE]

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638

Yet another positive safety study for ArA.

 

[Jiigzz]

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638

Yet another positive safety study for ArA.

I just saw this. Lowers CVD risk? Interdasting.

 

[SwolenONE]

I just saw this. Lowers CVD risk? Interdasting.

Absolutely. Cambridge showed it to lower risk of cardiovascular disease. Baylor showed it to reduce systemic inflammation markers. Now just wait for the University of Tampa results to be published (they told us today May 1st at the latest)... groundbreaking efficacy results on their 8 week human clinical trial on our X-Factor original formula.

It's quickly amounting to ArA having the best safety and efficacy profile of any ingredient on the marketplace, and we couldn't be happier to have been the company to bring the ingredient to market and invest hundreds of thousands into human clinical trials on it with top American Universities.

 

[Jiigzz]

Absolutely. Cambridge showed it to lower risk of cardiovascular disease. Baylor showed it to reduce systemic inflammation markers. Now just wait for the University of Tampa results to be published (they told us today May 1st at the latest)... groundbreaking efficacy results on their 8 week human clinical trial on our X-Factor original formula.

It's quickly amounting to ArA having the best safety and efficacy profile of any ingredient on the marketplace, and we couldn't be happier to have been the company to bring the ingredient to market and invest hundreds of thousands into human clinical trials on it with top American Universities.

Much kudos on getting a study performed on it for sure. Excited to see the results and the methodology.

I saw Bill post that study in the ISSN facebook page yesterday which is rather fascinating. Especially for an omega 6

 

[SwolenONE]

Much kudos on getting a study performed on it for sure. Excited to see the results and the methodology.

I saw Bill post that study in the ISSN facebook page yesterday which is rather fascinating. Especially for an omega 6

Absolutely, the standard model of EFAs is being turned upside down. ArA is quite heart healthy.