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Here is an article from Jim Stoppani's website, exposing another of the supplement industries tricks from Feb 22, 2014.

Protein Spiking

Another dirty trick that many supplement companies use to fool you!

It’s time I filled you in on yet another dirty trick that many supplement companies use to make more money.

If the lies of “proprietary blends” and “concentrated” products weren’t enough, yet another lie many supplement companies are making involves the amount of protein that is actually in protein powders.

While some companies just outright lie on the label about how much of their protein powder is actually protein, the more clever ones use a trick known as “nitrogen spiking”. Nitrogen spiking, which is also known as “amino spiking” or “protein spiking,” is a technique that allows supplement companies to put in less protein than what is listed on the label without actually getting caught. And you would be surprised to learn how many companies are doing this. But the problem is that protein powder is so expensive to make these days. So many companies take extreme measures to cut corners to save money on manufacturing protein powders in an effort to make more profit. Nitrogen spiking is a filthy trick. But in this article, I will teach you an easy way to tell if a protein powder is actually nitrogen spiked. Once you know what to look for, you can spot them a mile away. And they are out there!

Nitrogen spiking is just a way to manipulate the test used to measure the protein content of protein powders.

The current method used to measure the amount of protein in a protein powder involves measuring the nitrogen content, which is then converted into protein amount. Nitrogen is used because protein is made of amino acids that are strung together in a chain, much like a pearl necklace. Every amino acid contains nitrogen. So measuring nitrogen content of a protein powder can indicate the amount of protein it contains per serving. But that is assuming that the protein powder contains just complete proteins, such as whey protein, casein protein, and egg protein. Unfortunately, many protein powders not only include these complete proteins, but they also have “extra” amino acids added to them.

Most people think that having extra amino acids added to their protein powder is a good thing.

After all, I recommend taking extra branched-chain amino acids (BCAAs) before and after workouts in addition to a protein powder. The major problem with protein powders that have added amino acids is that the amino acids are not added to provide an added benefit to the protein powder. Instead they are only added for their nitrogen. Most amino acids, such as taurine and glycine are much cheaper than whey protein, casein protein, milk protein, or egg protein. Even highly beneficial amino acids, such as BCAAs and glutamine are cheaper than protein powders. So by adding a bunch of cheaper amino acids to their protein powders, supplement companies can boost their nitrogen content, which technically means they boosted the amount of protein per serving, at least according to the nitrogen test.

Because the added amino acids are not complete proteins, the protein content of a protein powder with added aminos is not what the test claims it to be.

For example, a whey protein powder may claim to contain 20 grams of protein per one scoop serving. If they added 5 grams of glycine per serving, then you are only getting 15 grams of actual whey protein and 5 grams of glycine, which would read as 20 grams of protein per serving. At least glycine is one of the 20 amino acids used as the building blocks for protein. However, having an extra 5 grams of this non-essential amino acid is not going to do you any real benefit when it comes to muscle growth. So that serving of whey protein is really only 15 grams of actual whey protein per serving.

A bigger problem arises when amino acids are used that are not proteogenic amino acids.

Proteogenic amino acids are the 20 amino acids that are used as building blocks to form proteins in the body, such as muscle protein. Non-proteogenic amino acids are ones that are not used as protein building blocks. When companies add non-proteogenic aminos to a protein powder, those aminos are not providing any direct muscle-building benefits at all and are just boosting the nitrogen (“protein”) content of the protein powder. Taurine is a popular non-proteogenic amino that is added to protein powders for its nitrogen. You may think that having taurine added to a protein powder is a great bonus because taurine helps with energy production. However, if 5 grams of taurine has been added to your protein powder that claims to contain 20 grams of protein per serving, then you are only getting 15 grams of real protein and 5 grams of taurine. The taurine is at the expense of total protein.

So how do you know how much of a protein powder that has added amino acids is true protein and how much is just amino acids?

You NEVER will know. That’s why supplement companies only list the amount of total “protein” on the label and not the amount of each type of protein and each type of amino acid added. If your favorite protein powder has taurine and glycine listed in the ingredients list, you’re actually better off throwing it out. That brand is simply lying to you about how little protein is actually in that protein powder. If they’re willing to go to the extent of nitrogen spiking to lie about protein content, then there is no telling where they are willing to buy their protein from. So not only are you getting less protein than listed on the label, but you are likely also getting very low-quality protein to boot.

If your favorite protein powder lists BCAAs, glutamine, beta-alanine, betaine (trimethylglycine), and/or creatine, you might think it’s a great product because in addition to protein you get all those key amino acids and amino-acid-derived nutrients.

And yes, you are getting those additional key nutrients, but you are getting them at the expense of the protein, NOT in addition to the protein. All those ingredients are nitrogen-containing compounds and count towards the total protein amount listed on the label. You might be getting up to 10 grams less protein per serving than listed on the label thanks to these “bonus” ingredients. If you are looking to take extra BCAAs, glutamine, beta-alanine, or creatine, then get them from a different product and not from your protein powder. When you buy a protein powder you ONLY want real protein and NOTHING else added. That includes fat burning ingredients like green tea, carnitine, and CLA. I won’t go off here on a rant about the so-called “fat-burning” protein powders on the market today. But suffice it to say that they are just another way for supplement companies to screw you with underdosed fat-burning ingredients in addition to less protein than is listed on the label.

The widespread use of nitrogen spiking is the main reason why I list the precise amount of each type of protein that is in every 24 gram serving of Pro JYM.

Whey protein isolate makes up 7.5 grams, micellar casein makes up 7 grams, milk protein isolate makes up 7 grams (5.5 of those grams being micellar casein and 1.5 of those grams being whey), and the remaining 2.5 grams comes from egg white protein (egg albumen). That totals 24 grams, all coming from complete proteins with no added amino acids to pull one over on you.

Pro JYM is the only protein powder that lists the exact amount of protein from each protein source.

Yes, other protein powders list the percent of protein from each protein source, but that doesn’t really tell you if that all adds up to the total listed on the label. For example, let’s say that Brand X had a protein blend of whey, casein and egg protein that claimed to have 20 grams of protein per serving. They claim that 40% of the protein is from whey protein, 50% of the protein is from casein protein and 10% of the protein is from egg protein. You would assume that that means that 8 grams is whey protein, 10 grams is casein protein and 2 grams is egg protein. However, you do not really know that for a fact. They may only list the percent from each protein and not the total grams from each protein because the total doesn’t add up to 20 grams. For example, if Brand X had 6 grams of taurine added to each serving, then that would mean that the whey, casein and egg protein make up only the remaining 14 grams. So in reality, there would only be 5.6 grams of whey (40% of 14), 7 grams of casein (50% of 14), and 1.4 grams of egg (10% of 14). But you wouldn’t know that because the company only listed the percent of each protein and not the total grams from each type of protein. With Pro JYM, I list the total grams from each protein. I want you to rest assured knowing that there is no sneaky business going on and that you are getting not only the highest-quality sources of each protein, but that you are also getting the exact amount listed on the label.

Just say no to nitrogen spiking.

Unfortunately, due to legal reasons, I cannot list what protein powders on the market today use nitrogen spiking to trick you. And there are a lot of them! But you are now armed with info that can help you know what to look for on a protein powder label. So go out there and make wiser and savvier protein powder purchases. It’s up to you to make these companies stop the lies and the nonsense. And you can only do that by being smart with your supplement purchases and not buying spiked protein powders. Don’t be lured by the cheap price of a particular protein powder. If the price is much cheaper than most of the other protein powders, then there is something fishy going on. Read the label and look for the mention of amino acids or other “bonus” ingredients. If you keep buying crap, they are going to keep making crap and selling crap. Force the rest of the supplement industry step up and formulate better protein powders and better products all around. Enough is enough!
 
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And with that being said, there are only a handful of companies who are true and honest with their labeling..the one topping my list is PES. Get Select, and you won't have to worry about a thing.
 
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Had to switch out literally every powder I was using when I first learned this. Aside from my whey isolates
 
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He doesn't list gycline that registers as 1.6 grams of nitrogen for every gram added. Creatine Monohydrate gives off 1.8grams of nitrogen per gram added.

Look at bb.com top protein list and wonder how in the world some brands advertise a buy 1 get 1, impossible to make money with an honest label, its would be a significant loss...
 
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They need a more effective method of determining protein content apparently. I'm sure loopholes would just be found again though
 
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He doesn't list gycline that registers as 1.6 grams of nitrogen for every gram added. Creatine Monohydrate gives off 1.8grams of nitrogen per gram added.

Look at bb.com top protein list and wonder how in the world some brands advertise a buy 1 get 1, impossible to make money with an honest label, its would be a significant loss...
Why does glycine register so high?
 
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These articles are nice especially when people are wanting to buy supplements and you gotta love the sales pitch at the end. Probably will buy this though lol.
 
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These articles are nice especially when people are wanting to buy supplements and you gotta love the sales pitch at the end. Probably will buy this though lol.
Other quality brands include PES Select, USP, and Cellucor.

Read their ingredients lists and/or write-ups.
 
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Jim Stoppani, late to the party as always.
 
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And with that being said, there are only a handful of companies who are true and honest with their labeling..the one topping my list is PES. Get Select, and you won't have to worry about a thing.
Add Dymatize Elite, ON, and SAN to that list ;)
 
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I've got a long list of brands on my 'bad' list now.


Some labels are tricky, for instance a blend that lists the protein sources then says "providing: insert amino acid list here"

Not sure if that means they are only naturally occurring amounts or a sneaky way to include them into the ingredients if some were added.

I am referring to MusclePharm protein, which just became available cheap in Costco here and saves me hefty shipping charges, but I'm not sure if I trust it.
 
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I've got a long list of brands on my 'bad' list now.


Some labels are tricky, for instance a blend that lists the protein sources then says "providing: insert amino acid list here"

Not sure if that means they are only naturally occurring amounts or a sneaky way to include them into the ingredients if some were added.

I am referring to MusclePharm protein, which just became available cheap in Costco here and saves me hefty shipping charges, but I'm not sure if I trust it.
Speaking of MP, I was just privy to their "shady" practices as well. Not sure if it's true or not but this is the 2nd time today I've heard about MP in a negative way.
 
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Speaking of MP, I was just privy to their "shady" practices as well. Not sure if it's true or not but this is the 2nd time today I've heard about MP in a negative way.
Just look at the Arnold line? A lot of those products are basically rehashed MP products but less comprehensive.
 
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This article is incredibly misleading.
This. All that shows us is % protein by weight but who's to say that protein is all complete protein and not just spiked which is the whole premise of this thread. A 25g protein reading in a 30g scoop may seem great but what if Glycine accounted for 5+g of that 25? Not so good anymore
 
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Other quality brands include PES Select, USP, and Cellucor.

Read their ingredients lists and/or write-ups.
Yeah, my cabinet has cellucor and PES and thanks for the suggestions will look into USP.
 
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I vote for AA profile on all protein supplements please. Even if they spiked it with free form, at least you know how much EAAs/BCAAs you're getting per serving.
MuscleFeast list an AA profile on their label. Just one more reason I really like their products :)
 
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wait so is *cough* ON okay or no bueno

all i have right now, my select is here today though :DDD
 
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use google and "Taurine/Glycine Spiking"

You will find some helpful threads.
oh lawd, yeah i already knew about it, and some of the ones that were doing it. can't see anything about on though. such a mind fk

then on the PES, Facebook page in the comments i notice two guys saying select is down there with syntha 6.. um wot lol. want to try controlled labs pronom though saw it the thread thats gtg. thinking of trying cellucor whey soon to never had it before only ever used ON never cared about flavor really, going through two tubs of select made me cringe at on's flavour lol there casein is nice and cake batter flavor + choc pb + extreme milk choc have been my favorites
 
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This is a pretty old issue now. I am not supporting any companies that ahev T/G on their labels, but, we need to keep in mind that the supplement industry isn't tightly regulated. With that in mind, just because a company doesn't put T/G on the label, doesn't mean it isn't spiked.
 
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Many threads but still no labs from anyone
If a company was questioned and they cannot provide a lab test or statements reflecting their product. that may be a "red" flag.
 
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If a company was questioned and they cannot provide a lab test or statements reflecting their product. that may be a "red" flag.
Can you provide Cellucor's? Just saying I see a lot of companies making accusations but no one even posts their own..hell for any products
 
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Can you provide Cellucor's? Just saying I see a lot of companies making accusations but no one even posts their own..hell for any products
Marc has it in his hand right here:

[video=youtube;Zuzgko6OUos]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuzgko6OUos[/video]

we even had a guy overseas test it as well and it came back 100% Clean:

 
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Marc has it in his hand right here:



we even had a guy overseas test it as well and it came back 100% Clean:

I think there are tons of foreign labs that will give you a good COA. Im not knocking on Cellucor, im just speaking in general terms here
 
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Many threads but still no labs from anyone
I think controlled labs posted one on bb.com just this week. I'll see if I can find it
 
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Does that say there's no added taurine, glycine or creatine? Again, 3rd party testing means nothing if the method used is nitrogen as well.
Have you even read the label for the whey? Its not even on the ingredient profile. there is 0 Glycine, Taurine and Creatine in that product.
And did you even watch Marc's video? He gives you a breakdown on all things tested and why it came back 100% Legit.

If you are curious test it yourself. I bet your results will come back 100% identical to Marc's.
 
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Like Jack3d or OEP ?? :)
You get that big and change the industry landscape...getting sued is part of business.

Like it or not...the two most copied products in our time......
 
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Have you even read the label for the whey? Its not even on the ingredient profile. there is 0 Glycine, Taurine and Creatine in that product.
And did you even watch Marc's video? He gives you a breakdown on all things tested and why it came back 100% Legit.

If you are curious test it yourself. I bet your results will come back 100% identical to Marc's.
I was not implying cellucors was spiked at all, I just literally cannot read whatever language that test is written in.
 
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I was not implying cellucors was spiked at all, I just literally cannot read whatever language that test is written in.
thats cause its overseas and why i linked Marc's video which has an american paper in his hand, and reads it for you.
 

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