new formula erase pro
- 02-13-2014, 07:20 PM
- 02-14-2014, 09:15 AM
02-14-2014, 02:31 PM
I'm using 1 cap of erase pro and loving it. I know I work for PES but I prefer the new version. Joints are great, libido is good, shoulder striations more noticeable.
02-14-2014, 09:21 PM
it's been 3 days since I started 2 caps/day of the new erase pro, more dry as compared to new erase@ 4caps/day
I think it is the boerhaavia accounting for the dryness since the old erase pro was too strong for many: 75mg arimistane and boerhaavia which is already very drying
I would rather have 2-3 caps of old erase than new erase pro. pricewise too
so PES reps nobody knows whether new formulation needs tapering or not?
02-14-2014, 10:56 PM
02-15-2014, 01:44 AM
02-15-2014, 01:51 AM
For example in case I wasn't clear
Caffeine usage. Metabolized by cyp450 1a2 and 3a4. Continued and increase use cause up regulation of this pathway
If DHAa works via this pathway it's rapidly metabolized thus needing much more for desired effect?
02-15-2014, 02:29 AM
What I am talking about is pharmacogenetic variation. The main one we look out for in medicine is CYP2C9, which is can be up to 30% less efficient in metabolizing warfarin in certain populations.
The key difference here is producing more enzyme (caffeine) vs having a hyperfunctional/dysfunctional polymorphism of the enzyme (possibly DHAA)
02-15-2014, 04:06 AM
02-15-2014, 02:28 PM
02-15-2014, 04:26 PM
Does it means its not working ? I'm not sure. Without the labs it's hard to say....
The new erase+dopa stack looks tempting.
Would you guys use the new erase as AI after PH run.? Or it's better to stick right now with older and more trusted AIs ?
02-16-2014, 01:26 AM
02-16-2014, 07:23 AM
Yes it's really good to pass (:
Gonna grab me one.
Just curious. I probably missed this information in this big thread. Is this AI suicidal?
02-17-2014, 11:52 PM
02-20-2014, 07:28 PM
02-21-2014, 07:51 PM
02-21-2014, 11:08 PM
02-22-2014, 05:31 PM
i have been using the new formula erase pro for almost 3 weeks now days.
just a few thoughts:
no decrease in libido
no joint pain[keep in mind i am 55]
no bad sides of any kind
with that said, i think this formula has great potential....but i have never been a one size fits all kinda guy. being a big guy all my life and topping off atm at 203 i feel it is slightly underdosed, at least for me. keep in mind that i did double dose one time and almost immediately felt joint discomfort start to creep in. imho i think a 3 cap option, with 50% more actives split between 3 caps would be the best way to go. even a 2 cap option at a 1.5 actives increase. i don't think doubling of the dose is neccessary, but it is a little lacking as far as results i am used to from ai's.
before everyone starts thinking i am knocking the product, on the contrary...i think the ingredients in the new formula are effective and best of all don't kill my joints or libido, i am only pointing out that the dose might need a little tweaking...afterall this is a high price point product!!!
02-22-2014, 05:36 PM
BigT- Aren't you taking it with other products though?. I thought I read that you were using something like 4 other products that also effect hormones because you went off TRT for a while.
02-22-2014, 05:36 PM
02-22-2014, 05:39 PM
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance." - Socrates
02-22-2014, 05:53 PM
02-22-2014, 06:22 PM
Same here. I was using the new erase not the new pro. At 3 caps it's did nothing. Then I upped to 5 dosing it 2-2-1. And it worked. So at five a day I get only 18 days. Had to let that go. Check out nutraclipse formadrive. Arimistane and formestane in one.
02-22-2014, 06:37 PM
Doesn't the new Erase Pro have some different benefits than the old one without the joint issues?. I could never afford to take double the dosage of the new Erase Pro. I had joint problems with the last one. I am planning on using the new Erase Pro soon though. Think it will work much better for me this time around. When I tried Erase Pro I couldn't stay on it, even with every other day dosing my joints just couldn't handle it. Looking forward to trying it out.
02-22-2014, 06:48 PM
02-22-2014, 07:31 PM
I forgot I had bought some of the New Erase Pro...need to start it next week
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02-23-2014, 03:33 AM
Thanks for the feedback, Tom.
Cyrus has outlined possibilities of why someone may need a higher or lower dose to achieve the same effect.
We are confident with our dosing scheme for the majority of individuals. It is in the same way other people used 50mg or 100mg of Erase due to physiological differences.
By no means did I think you were being offensive. If everyone on this forum had your approach to feedback it would be a happier place.
02-23-2014, 07:15 PM
with that said, i was thinking of reordering more erase pro, since 1 is on the slight side i was considering also ordering a regular erase. what do you and the maestro think of 1/1?
btw-thanks for the good words!!!
02-23-2014, 08:24 PM
02-23-2014, 11:56 PM
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