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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Start my EP in two weeks. Im on a summer long cut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    summer????
    Yea, pretty much gonna cut until aug or sep
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Yea, pretty much gonna cut until aug or sep
    Well at least till may or june. Im wanting to get about 6-8%. Im probably 16-20% right now. How long would do you think it will take me to get sub10%, without losing a ton of muscle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Well at least till may or june. Im wanting to get about 6-8%. Im probably 16-20% right now. How long would do you think it will take me to get sub10%, without losing a ton of muscle?
    i would do a serious cut for a month or so then do recomp. if bf is still too high then repeat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i would do a serious cut for a month or so then do recomp. if bf is still too high then repeat.
    Im eating roughly ~400 below maintenance right now. I started with 5 min of cardio 4days a wk, and im going to add 1-2 mins of cardio per week to each day. Im probably gonna drop my cals by about 50-100 come next week. I started jan 15. I got a log if you want to follow. Can you go look at my before pics and guesstimate bodyfat % for me? The supps im taking is alphamine, forskolin(100mg), ALCAR, Beta alanine, cycle support(for health purposes), and Agmatine, and bcaa, fish oil, multi and whey. In two more weeks i start m bottle of EP(new version). Anyway my macros are 288g pro, 187.5g CHO, and 98g fat. I am probably gonna drop a rice cake or two come next week. My kcals are currently ~2815.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Well at least till may or june. Im wanting to get about 6-8%. Im probably 16-20% right now. How long would do you think it will take me to get sub10%, without losing a ton of muscle?
    too many factors to state this, do you really know your 16-20? Did you get a dexa/bodpod done? Using calipers are no where near correct usually off a good 3% (lower) than what you are due to not measuring internal bodyfat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Im eating roughly ~400 below maintenance right now. I started with 5 min of cardio 4days a wk, and im going to add 1-2 mins of cardio per week to each day. Im probably gonna drop my cals by about 50-100 come next week. I started jan 15. I got a log if you want to follow. Can you go look at my before pics and guesstimate bodyfat % for me? The supps im taking is alphamine, forskolin(100mg), ALCAR, Beta alanine, cycle support(for health purposes), and Agmatine, and bcaa, fish oil, multi and whey. In two more weeks i start m bottle of EP(new version). Anyway my macros are 288g pro, 187.5g CHO, and 98g fat. I am probably gonna drop a rice cake or two come next week. My kcals are currently ~2815.
    You got yourself a solid stack and your macros looks pretty good. Best of luck with the cut
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    You got yourself a solid stack and your macros looks pretty good. Best of luck with the cut
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    mine starts monday
    get ready for an epic log starting with my own PES stash.
    If you log it post a link so we can follow

    (Mostly for the food porn )
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    If you log it post a link so we can follow

    (Mostly for the food porn )

    i will
    im awaiting the next insider for the new alphamine

    Just sayin

    how about some PES Clothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    i will
    im awaiting the next insider for the new alphamine

    Just sayin

    how about some PES Clothing?
    Im trying to get some myself!

    Apparently the diva ( aka @bdcc ) has taken all inventory so we have to wait untill @nattydisaster gets some more in.
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    I logged into the PES main email to get all clothing forwarded to my home address instead of the warehouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    I logged into the PES main email to get all clothing forwarded to my home address instead of the warehouse.
    Do we get your crummy trunks too?
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    Cherry Limeade Alphamine shipped to us today
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Cherry Limeade Alphamine shipped to us today
    **** just got real.
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    P.S. I almost never swear on the forum so I hope that indicates how important this is to me lol.
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    In my mouth, Cherry Limeade Alphamine, I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    In my mouth, Cherry Limeade Alphamine, I need.
    This completes my stack

    CL Alphamine
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    all 3 flavors PES Select
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    Time to shred it up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    This completes my stack CL Alphamine CL Amino IV all 3 flavors PES Select PES erase Pro Forskolin 95 Alpha T2 Time to shred it up! In for the INSIDER!!!!!!!!
    You better log that!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    You better log that!!
    Course
    why dont you get that stuff up for sale so i can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    This completes my stack CL Alphamine CL Amino IV all 3 flavors PES Select PES erase Pro Forskolin 95 Alpha T2 Time to shred it up! In for the INSIDER!!!!!!!!
    Im running alphamine for 8 wks, then norcodrene for 4. I also have AT2. My question is should i take a 4wk break after the norco before i start taking AT2, or would it hurt to take alphamine, norcodrene and at2 back to back to back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Im running alphamine for 8 wks, then norcodrene for 4. I also have AT2. My question is should i take a 4wk break after the norco before i start taking AT2, or would it hurt to take alphamine, norcodrene and at2 back to back to back?
    always take a break after 8 weeks of stim use(as many companies and stimmed products state) you could stretch 12 weeks but your tolerance may be pretty high by then. Its personal in the end. for me 200mg is enough, if i continued to take products after 8 weeks around 200mg, i start losing the effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    always take a break after 8 weeks of stim use(as many companies and stimmed products state) you could stretch 12 weeks but your tolerance may be pretty high by then. Its personal in the end. for me 200mg is enough, if i continued to take products after 8 weeks around 200mg, i start losing the effects.
    True, but just cause you dont "feel" alphamine doesnt mean its not working.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    True, but just cause you dont "feel" alphamine doesnt mean its not working.
    That takes away a major factor of the product is the added stim, sure the other benefits are great, but if you are not getting something out of the product which you should (the stim) doesnt mean you can just take it over and over again

    Same applies with boosters/burners etc. cant just keep taking em because you dont feel the effects, there is a law of diminishing returns with taking supplements and products, hence why they always need to be cycled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post
    That takes away a major factor of the product is the added stim, sure the other benefits are great, but if you are not getting something out of the product which you should (the stim) doesnt mean you can just take it over and over again Same applies with boosters/burners etc. cant just keep taking em because you dont feel the effects, there is a law of diminishing returns with taking supplements and products, hence why they always need to be cycled.
    Yes i know. Thanks, but would it hurt to take alphamine for 8wks, then go 4wks of norcodrene? 12 wks should be max, then take stim break.
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    my purpose in using erase pro seems different than most... since i lost my insurance i will be at least a month off trt. i am using erase pro as part of a natty stack to get me thru this timeframe.

    erase pro
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    might throw in some i-force tropinal for the fadogia?
    gaspari size on and maybe myofusion protein, i can get it really cheap!!!
    dcp 2.0
    i have used everything before except for erase pro, dcp 2.0 and dopadex.
    i got my shipped email and tracking#, but no eta yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    Yes i know. Thanks, but would it hurt to take alphamine for 8wks, then go 4wks of norcodrene? 12 wks should be max, then take stim break.
    Id ask the PES reps, personally if i go over 8 weeks with stims i lose effect from the actual stim, so its not really benefitting me much, if i have to increase a higher dose i start to get cracked out and takes away from my focus/workouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Cherry Limeade Alphamine shipped to us today
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Woohoo
    INSIDER!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Solution View Post

    INSIDER!!
    I know you're signed up, hope everyone else is!

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    How's the new erase pro treating everyone thus far??? Better than the old??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjg View Post
    How's the new erase pro treating everyone thus far??? Better than the old??
    that is the question, lol.....in their enthusiasm for other pes products this thread kind of got sidetracked......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cjg View Post
    How's the new erase pro treating everyone thus far??? Better than the old??
    I feel great, zero joint issues, just added anabeta elite and ArA today
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    I feel great, zero joint issues, just added anabeta elite and ArA today
    EP and ArA might be to much for the joints for some people correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    EP and ArA might be to much for the joints for some people correct?
    The new EP may actually be joint protective
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post

    EP and ArA might be to much for the joints for some people correct?
    I wouldn't say that, the new EP is very joint friendly
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    Quote Originally Posted by NattyForLife View Post
    EP and ArA might be to much for the joints for some people correct?
    This depends on the individual. I haven't had joint issues from ArA or EP (old formula). And the feedback from the new EP seems that it is doing very well on the joints and not causing any problems.
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