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Few months ago I ran x-gels for 50 days. I started at 1g a day and went up to 1.5g. Do y'all think it would be more beneficial, from a recomp standpoint, to up the dosage to 2g a day or stack it with gms and alcar?
This is my thought as well. I would stick to 1 g per workout.It'd be more beneficial to add the GMS and Carnitine IMO.
Carnitine at 2g, GMS at 3g.Okay cool. What should I dose those at?
Quick question. I have seen the GMS listed at 6g before. That seemed high to me, and could possibly cause stomach problems, correct?Carnitine at 2g, GMS at 3g.
Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine.Quick question. I have seen the GMS listed at 6g before. That seemed high to me, and could possibly cause stomach problems, correct?
If so, I'm going to go with the 3g. Thanks for the info!
Metabolic powder pre with ArA? The MP recommended dose good?Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine. Muscular uptake and amount of ara In the stem would be high,
Should be okMetabolic powder pre with ArA? The MP recommended dose good?
That's pricey lol.I've always taken ArA at 2g since that's what Neuron recommended a long while ago, and it has worked out best for me.
Do you have where he posted it? I'm guessing somewhere in the giant Maximizing ArA thread.I've always taken ArA at 2g since that's what Neuron recommended a long while ago, and it has worked out best for me.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=119490141&p=393053291&viewfull=1#post393053291Do you have where he posted it? I'm guessing somewhere in the giant Maximizing ArA thread.
Off topic question: What are your thoughts on taking ArA + carbs (~30g) + leucine first thing in the AM and lifting shortly after? Will that transient increase in insulin shift the likelihood of ArA being delivered to skeletal muscle?
I'm talking taking it in a preworkout setting along with carbs + leucine though.I think I read somewhere in that thread that insulin + ArA = ArA not delivered to skeletal muscle. Is that correct?
In for reply. I believe someone had told me not to worry about it too much, but no CHO amounts were given.I'm talking taking it in a preworkout setting along with carbs + leucine though.
I dont think so. But I'd have to look into itI think I read somewhere in that thread that insulin + ArA = ArA not delivered to skeletal muscle. Is that correct?
True, working out would cease insulin production, right?I'm talking taking it in a preworkout setting along with carbs + leucine though.
To be technical;I have also read that taking Baby aspirin can help with the effects of ArA. Just one 81mg tablet per day.
I think you are supposed to start taking the aspirin before starting the ArA by 10 days, then continue to take it during your run.
Edit: Found it!! This is from another forum.
"Quoting Coop, yet again.
Re-read the benefits of aspirin mentioned ITT:
1. Blockade of TxA2 formation = vasodilation -> performance enhancement
2. Increased availability of ArA for non-thrombotic endpoints
3. Stimulation of AMPK and overall health benefits
Are the effects of 81mg aspirin significant when it comes to ArA metabolism? Absolutely. You and I both know it's one of the most well-studied drugs in existence"
This is correct. Others use Carnitine in place of the aspirin.I have also read that taking Baby aspirin can help with the effects of ArA. Just one 81mg tablet per day.
I think you are supposed to start taking the aspirin before starting the ArA by 10 days, then continue to take it during your run.
Edit: Found it!! This is from another forum.
"Quoting Coop, yet again.
Re-read the benefits of aspirin mentioned ITT:
1. Blockade of TxA2 formation = vasodilation -> performance enhancement
2. Increased availability of ArA for non-thrombotic endpoints
3. Stimulation of AMPK and overall health benefits
Are the effects of 81mg aspirin significant when it comes to ArA metabolism? Absolutely. You and I both know it's one of the most well-studied drugs in existence"
Oh, ok. So if I already take Anavite, I won't need the baby aspirin?This is correct. Others use Carnitine in place of the aspirin.
I would do one or the other. No need to run both if you have 2g carnitine already availableOh, ok. So if I already take Anavite, I won't need the baby aspirin?
Would it hurt/help to do both?
Cool, good to know! ThanksI would do one or the other. No need to run both if you have 2g carnitine already available
No problemCool, good to know! Thanks
I would not advise it.Off topic question: What are your thoughts on taking ArA + carbs (~30g) + leucine first thing in the AM and lifting shortly after? Will that transient increase in insulin shift the likelihood of ArA being delivered to skeletal muscle?
How about just the leucine then...I would not advise it.
Can you give a partial or full explanation as I'm curious as wellI would not advise it.
This right here. I use Compete and Hemavol with my X-gels everytime I run ARA.It'd be more beneficial to add the GMS and Carnitine IMO.
How about Lodhra Bark (symplocos racemosa extract) as a lipoxygenase inhibitor?Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine.
Muscular uptake and amount of ara In the stem would be high,
Great combo. Do you typically add any bulk GMS?This right here. I use Compete and Hemavol with my X-gels everytime I run ARA.
Along with HCA which, as EBF Inc had pointed out a couple post back, may help with cellular uptakeSo your saying use AA and anebeta elite together with alcat
Hes an Iforce minion lolGreat combo. Do you typically add any bulk GMS?
They would stack very wellSo your saying use AA and anebeta elite together with alcat
Interested how you'd set this up?Go with a 5-lpo inhibitor and hca for the next time you use it with GMS and carnitine.
Muscular uptake and amount of ara In the stem would be high,
Yup. As pointed out by EBF IncThey would stack very well
So when we take ArA some of it gets broken down into luekotrienes and thromboxanes via LPO and COX. Now if we could inhibit both of them it would result in more ArA to stay which meams there is more that could be used by our musclesCOX and LPO breakdown the ArA into the luekotrienes and thromboxanes
Inhibiting them (5-LPO and COX-2 inhibitor) leaves more Arachidonic acid available for uptake into muscle cells. This would be a good thing.
So we add HCA to help all that now extra ArA to be able to get used by our musclesThis may also be where garcinia Cambogia (50% hca) can play into effect in the cellular uptake but via a different mechanism (CD36).
Hence the stack of ArA + Anabeta Elite + l-carnitine + metabolic powder
ABE is recommended pre-workout. MP is also recommended pre-workout. Both can be taken with or without food.And so you'd reccomend this all pre-workout? Aren't ABE & MP meant to be taken with food?
Okay thanks manABE is recommended pre-workout. MP is also recommended pre-workout. Both can be taken with or without food.
Yes, that would be fine.How about just the leucine then...
Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).Can you give a partial or full explanation as I'm curious as well
I'll be sending constant messages.Yes, that would be fine.
Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).
I actually just read a study while I was searching showing some sort of blunted effects in the presence of insulin maybe on the prostaglandin formation. **** I wish I rememberedYes, that would be fine.
Short on time, but I will get into it later if I remember. I'm sure Cyrus or someone else can explain if they have time (assuming they're asked nicely ).
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