Higher ArA dosage, or ArA stack?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I agree, this issue is loss of flexibility. If you want 6 or 8 caps of ArA preworkout, you now have to **** yourself, literally
    Yeah, imagine the issues one would face if a product had something like 250 mg of ARA and 25 mg of forskolin per cap, it'd be terrible.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post

    Yeah, imagine the issues one would face if a product had something like 250 mg of ARA and 25 mg of forskolin per cap, it'd be terrible.
    I think 5mg would be the dose you needed

    But questions @Synapsin and @mr.cooper69

    If something were to enhance cox2 expression theoretically would you need less ara?

  3. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I think 5mg would be the dose you needed

    But questions @Synapsin and @mr.cooper69

    If something were to enhance cox2 expression theoretically would you need less ara?
    Then you would need 5g of ArA to get 100mg forskolin lol. I think if anything 100mg ArA/5mg forskolin. (1g ArA = 50mg fors, 1.5g ArA = 75mg fors, 2g ArA = 100mg fors). Again, as others said I believe ArA is far better off being a standalone than trying to add in other ingr. because of the wide range of doses people use.

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  4. Quote Originally Posted by MultiVitamin View Post

    Then you would need 5g of ArA to get 100mg forskolin lol. I think if anything 100mg ArA/5mg forskolin. (1g ArA = 50mg fors, 1.5g ArA = 75mg fors, 2g ArA = 100mg fors). Again, as others said I believe ArA is far better off being a standalone than trying to add in other ingr. because of the wide range of doses people use.

    Also interested in your Q, bump
    No you wouldn't

    1 cap ara = 250mg.

    1.5g ara = 6 caps.

    5mg/cap is 30mg

  5. Quote Originally Posted by MultiVitamin View Post

    Then you would need 5g of ArA to get 100mg forskolin lol. I think if anything 100mg ArA/5mg forskolin. (1g ArA = 50mg fors, 1.5g ArA = 75mg fors, 2g ArA = 100mg fors). Again, as others said I believe ArA is far better off being a standalone than trying to add in other ingr. because of the wide range of doses people use.

    Also interested in your Q, bump
    Toleration if forskolin differs. You want lowest appreciable dose then you can add to it

  6. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Toleration if forskolin differs. You want lowest appreciable dose then you can add to it
    This has seemed to be the case even with F-95. Some just can't tolerate it for whatever reason.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Toleration if forskolin differs. You want lowest appreciable dose then you can add to it
    I have a high tolerance, usually run 100-125mg so I kind of overlooked that. Good point
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I think 5mg would be the dose you needed

    But questions @Synapsin and @mr.cooper69

    If something were to enhance cox2 expression theoretically would you need less ara?
    No. And that is a horrible endpoint to seek
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I think 5mg would be the dose you needed

    But questions @Synapsin and @mr.cooper69

    If something were to enhance cox2 expression theoretically would you need less ara?
    That's what I was thinking, 5-10mg per cap could be pretty ideal.

    With it having such mixed feedback on GI issues, you have a very good point about it probably being better kept separate/added to an existing ArA product though.

    Really excited to see what your idea is, and Im hoping it comes to fruition!!
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  10. OK, so hypothetical: could one attack X Factor, ALCAR, GMS, and Tropinol for max absorption and gains? Just trying to make sure I've understood everything to this point.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by mountainman33 View Post
    OK, so hypothetical: could one attack X Factor, ALCAR, GMS, and Tropinol for max absorption and gains? Just trying to make sure I've understood everything to this point.
    Yes, absolutely. That would make for a potent stack!
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Yes, absolutely. That would make for a potent stack!
    SWEET!!! Then I'm set after my current PCT. Thanks Swole.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mountainman33 View Post
    SWEET!!! Then I'm set after my current PCT. Thanks Swole.
    Nice stack, brother!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by Misfit28 View Post

    Nice stack, brother!
    Yeah! After my Max-Bulk log that's my next run. :-D
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by mountainman33 View Post
    Yeah! After my Max-Bulk log that's my next run. :-D
    Im excited to hear your feedback!!
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Im excited to hear your feedback!!
    You got it. I'll post log link when I start it.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    Im excited to hear your feedback!!
    So one more for you: I currently have the stack previously mentioned ready to go. A friend of mine is heading overseas for his job for a year and has 2 bottles of MAN PR-XT he wants to sell to me for cheap. Would that be stackable with everything else or would that be overkill?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bmoore View Post
    Few months ago I ran x-gels for 50 days. I started at 1g a day and went up to 1.5g. Do y'all think it would be more beneficial, from a recomp standpoint, to up the dosage to 2g a day or stack it with gms and alcar?
    did it work for you? how good did it work on a scale of 1 to 10
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  19. I can't really be fasted for more than an hour and a half before my lift because I have a pretty tight schedule, would it still be okay to take ArA if I take forskolin with it?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Mvp42 View Post
    I can't really be fasted for more than an hour and a half before my lift because I have a pretty tight schedule, would it still be okay to take ArA if I take forskolin with it?
    Yep! Sometimes, I do this....take forskolin before my workouts...only if I remember though..LOL!!!

  21. Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    Yep! Sometimes, I do this....take forskolin before my workouts...only if I remember though..LOL!!!
    Can you explain what the forskolin does in this situation? I've searched around but can't find anything clear

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Mvp42 View Post
    Can you explain what the forskolin does in this situation? I've searched around but can't find anything clear
    Read this thread from the beginning. You'll find that as well as ton of other info here.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mvp42 View Post
    I can't really be fasted for more than an hour and a half before my lift because I have a pretty tight schedule, would it still be okay to take ArA if I take forskolin with it?
    Absolutely, you can take your X-Factor with forskolin and with or without food, depending on what your schedule allows for.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by Mvp42 View Post
    I can't really be fasted for more than an hour and a half before my lift because I have a pretty tight schedule, would it still be okay to take ArA if I take forskolin with it?
    That's fine.
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  25. id say 8 out of ten, i gained a lot of strength while leaning outa bit without really trying to

  26. Quote Originally Posted by bmoore View Post
    id say 8 out of ten, i gained a lot of strength while leaning outa bit without really trying to
    Great feedback, I lean out rapidly on X-Factor and so do many of our customers. It's a strange thing actually, many buy it to gain size and report back they only gained a few lbs but look much leaner so they are beyond pleased.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post

    Great feedback, I lean out rapidly on X-Factor and so do many of our customers. It's a strange thing actually, many buy it to gain size and report back they only gained a few lbs but look much leaner so they are beyond pleased.
    And just so happened it seems like the effects build up even when you stop taking it. Seems to carry over another 10 days or so

  28. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    And just so happened it seems like the effects build up even when you stop taking it. Seems to carry over another 10 days or so
    This for sure. I noticed I was still gaining after stopping my ArA for roughly another 10-14 days.
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  29. Yes sir, we have heard the effects last for a good 2-3 weeks post cycle for a decade now, such a damn cool effect. Most supplements dont even work while you're taking them, let alone afterwards haha.
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