Would it be wise to take that + 300 mg of Alpha-GPC + a preworkout that doesn't have choline?
And what is that?Think I'll just stick with my current focus/brain health stack.
Noopept + alpha GPC + ce[FONT=Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]ntrophenoxine + uridine. [/FONT]Noopept for the focus boost, alpha GPC for a choline source, centrophenoxine to hydrolyze acetylcholine as well as help increase RNA, uridine to provide a substrate for RNA.And what is that?
You can find generics without a scrpt...Isn't provigil prescription only?
It's good stuff Ever trained with it? Gives you quite some pep. It also stacks well with certain things.
^^^^This!! Some people don't even realize it is working until they haven't used for a day or 2.It's good stuff Ever trained with it? Gives you quite some pep. It also stacks well with certain things.
Just to note, I haven't used it long term though. As for feels, completely different from usual CNS stimulants. Doesn't really make you jitter either.
Feels very different. I've used adrafinil maybe twice and modafinil a handful of times. I did use modafinil first and then later on try adrafinil so my impressions may be skewed due to that.Adrafinil is really great and I've heard that modafinil is even better. I haven't used the latter but adrafinil definitely makes me more alert, focused and I'm convinced has improved my strength and cardio on days that I have taken it.
Don't forget to buy CDP-Choline or Alpha-GPC. Have to feed that noopept in your system with some extra cholineLGI Noopept is like $15 a bottle. Maybe I'll look into that instead.
That's what one would think right? However, the two feel and act very differently. Might have to do with how adrafinil metabolizes, how much of it ends up circulating in the system as modafinil, etc.seems like adrafinil would feel very similar to modafinil since its metabolized into modafinil in vivo.
How did you dose it?noopept didn't do sh1t for me really. a very mild relaxation effect maybe. possibly placebo. i liked piracetam better but quit taking it because it made my p1ss burn. idk what thats all about. havent tried the other racetams, but if you want to try noopept you can buy it in bulk off of ebay alot cheaper. i got like 5grams for 10$ free shipping if i remember correctly.
Oh, I am in no way doubting you. Nootropics will most likely work differently on different people since we have different neuro balances. I took 10-15 mg's with 300 mg's of Alpha-GPC once to twice a day. I had some awareness effects as well as better cognition which overall assisted in being able to focus better.10-20mgs. anything more and it seemed like it gave me these weird depressive thoughts. i know that the studies on it show potential. i just didn't care for it though.
I take everything on an empty stomach unless it's something fat solubleas for adrafinil, thats true of alot of "prodrugs". dont seem to have the same effect. not to mention purity issues with the otc stuff. imo prodrugs need to be taken on an empty stomach for the most effect. at least thats been my experience.
Yeah, you get a lot less sides with piracetam. It's probably the most benign out of all the racetams.like i said, i actually liked piracetam. could definitely feel the cognitive improvement. 1-3 grams of lecithin with it is even better. i'm gonna get around to trying the other racetams eventually. have you tried the other ones?
Adrafinil is actually not so great on the liver from what I've read so it is important to take time off from using it. Also adrafinil/modafinil have some synergy with yohimbe so take caution when using both.Adrafanil/Modafanil are always potentiated by Coffee! lol. Good mix though. Still say it's under dosed, nevertheless; a good product.
Lol I thought the same until I got a sample pack of nuvigil (150mg armodafinil) and tried taking my normal yohimbe dose with it. Kept me awake for over 24hrs lol...I've used modaf + Yohimbe + Caffeine. No negative sides to speak, but then again, my nervous system/BP is on the low side, contrary to most people who have anxiety issues..I have almost a complete absence of natural "anxieties". So stimulants are really my thing, and I am not that sensitive to them.
Not really, it's fine on the liver unless you have underlying liver issues to begin with. The main reason they got rid of adafinil and replaced it with modafinil and now Nuvigil is most likely because like all pharmaceuticals, the one with a patent on it is more desirable to the pharmaceutical companies.Adrafinil is actually not so great on the liver from what I've read so it is important to take time off from using it. Also adrafinil/modafinil have some synergy with yohimbe so take caution when using both.
I never had the issue with nuvigil on its own or with yohimbe on its own. The combination however hit me a lot harder than I thought, especially since I took it early in the day. Other than that I really didn't do anything different that day so I'm sure it had to be that. After that I haven't taken nuvigil and yohimbe in the same 24hr period and haven't had any further issues.Well that will happen..they are "wakefulness" drugs..don't forget pilots during WW II used these drugs on their 72 hour missions. They are used for a lot of activity in hollywood as well when needed, and even by some music artists...(although in this case amphetamines are more common)..
Modafinil/adrafinil will amplify the effects of other stimulants you might be taking, thus not a great idea to mix other stimulants in with modafinil/adrafinil.I never had the issue with nuvigil on its own or with yohimbe on its own. The combination however hit me a lot harder than I thought, especially since I took it early in the day. Other than that I really didn't do anything different that day so I'm sure it had to be that. After that I haven't taken nuvigil and yohimbe in the same 24hr period and haven't had any further issues.
^^^ Agreed, aside from my coffee I don't take anything else with moda.Modafinil/adrafinil will amplify the effects of other stimulants you might be taking, thus not a great idea to mix other stimulants in with modafinil/adrafinil.
You could... and I'll admit that I have tried it, but I personally wouldn't recommend it.
Why's my username attached to that quote? Pretty sure it's not my postOmni has chemicals to prevent acetylcholine breakdown, so taking it with choline or other substrates would be ideal.
Post number 1 in this thread.Would it be wise to take that + 300 mg of Alpha-GPC + a preworkout that doesn't have choline?
Ha ha. Totally forgot I started this thread. Lol. I answered my own question after seeing how underdosed the stuff is.Post number 1 in this thread.
You realize it's a controlled substance right?You can find generics without a scrpt...
It is known for inducing electrolyte imbalances and muscle cramps, and would be a very poor choice preworkout. And again, it's a felony to possess if you're not prescribedIt's good stuff Ever trained with it? Gives you quite some pep. It also stacks well with certain things.Just to note, I haven't used it long term though. As for feels, completely different from usual CNS stimulants. Doesn't really make you jitter either.
Interesting, have only tried that dosing a handful of times.It is known for inducing electrolyte imbalances and muscle cramps, and would be a very poor choice preworkout. And again, it's a felony to possess if you're not prescribed
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