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    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22292054/

    Take a look, cheap additive to cutting stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22292054/

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    Very interesting
    Recommended source/brand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post

    Very interesting
    Recommended source/brand?
    Any brand. I've been playing with 500mg few times a day with 30000iu vitamin a and 3.2g calcium per day.

    Been using a few other herbs to. But seems to be keeping me lean, regular, and body temp up

    Actually my body temp was pretty high last night for no reason. Well probably the ingredients I'm using but couldn't cool down it was pretty cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Any brand. I've been playing with 500mg few times a day with 30000iu vitamin a and 3.2g calcium per day.

    Been using a few other herbs to. But seems to be keeping me lean, regular, and body temp up

    Actually my body temp was pretty high last night for no reason. Well probably the ingredients I'm using but couldn't cool down it was pretty cool
    I love the Thermo-feel from some products. Damn body keeps adapting though. 3 scoops metabolic powder on top of stims won't even cut it anymore

    Doesn't mean its not working but I just enjoy physically feeling an effect from my supplementing, like when first starting to take Beta-Alanine.

    I will look into this for sure
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    Incase your wondering my specific morning routine upon waking;

    3G leucine or 8-10g eaas
    1.2g calcium
    500mg bromelain
    500mg new propilus
    20,000 IU vitamin a

    Along with that I take 5-7 other things I'm testing for a reformulation

    I wait about 20-30 min have my pre workouts

    Then 30 min later I start on my intra workout mix that does include bitter melon, loquat, ala, plus one other ingredient that will remain nameless for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Incase your wondering my specific morning routine upon waking;

    3G leucine or 8-10g eaas
    1.2g calcium
    500mg bromelain
    500mg new propilus
    20,000 IU vitamin a

    Along with that I take 5-7 other things I'm testing for a reformulation

    I wait about 20-30 min have my pre workouts

    Then 30 min later I start on my intra workout mix that does include bitter melon, loquat, ala, plus one other ingredient that will remain nameless for now
    So are these hints to future Feb products? Recompdrol is my favorite gas by far
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    Quote Originally Posted by drseuss6969 View Post

    So are these hints to future Feb products? Recompdrol is my favorite gas by far
    I'm reformulating adipose annihilation, again.

    Or may just make a completely different product

    I have an intra I want to do.

    There's a lot I want to do, it's whether I can.

    Still in early phase of testing a few ingredients
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    Very interesting. Looks like a lot of people use it for the anti-inflamation effects based on reviews.

    How high is it being dosed as an alternative weight loss supp? I didn't see it on the article
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    Quote Originally Posted by rphash49 View Post
    Very interesting. Looks like a lot of people use it for the anti-inflamation effects based on reviews.

    How high is it being dosed as an alternative weight loss supp? I didn't see it on the article
    It was only in vitro. I'm playing around w 2g a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    It was only in vitro. I'm playing around w 2g a day.
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Incase your wondering my specific morning routine upon waking;

    3G leucine or 8-10g eaas
    1.2g calcium
    500mg bromelain
    500mg new propilus
    20,000 IU vitamin a

    Along with that I take 5-7 other things I'm testing for a reformulation

    I wait about 20-30 min have my pre workouts

    Then 30 min later I start on my intra workout mix that does include bitter melon, loquat, ala, plus one other ingredient that will remain nameless for now
    Thanks for sharing. Why the calcium?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post

    Thanks for sharing. Why the calcium?
    Here you go

    http://trace.tennessee.edu/utk_graddiss/2244/
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Thanks. Interesting. Would there be need to supplement with magnesium with taking that much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjobe6 View Post

    Thanks. Interesting. Would there be need to supplement with magnesium with taking that much?
    Always want to have some sort of balance.

    I use it in the form of bone meal
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    Are you mindful of hypercalcaemia? I'm aware the body has pretty good homeostatic responses to calcium, but 3.2g? Can you aware me if this is safe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Are you mindful of hypercalcaemia? I'm aware the body has pretty good homeostatic responses to calcium, but 3.2g? Can you aware me if this is safe?
    Yes aware of hypercalcaemia,

    As far as safety, I have had zero adverse effects thus far, but remember not all is absorbed, and there are synergists and antagonists of calcium.

    I'm being pretty mindful of what I am noticing. So far not much in terms if general tox issues that are reported with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    Yes aware of hypercalcaemia,

    As far as safety, I have had zero adverse effects thus far, but remember not all is absorbed, and there are synergists and antagonists of calcium.

    I'm being pretty mindful of what I am noticing. So far not much in terms if general tox issues that are reported with it.
    However no true way of testing.
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    The ability to absorb calcium drops off sharply after 600-800mg. Most of the rest will be excreted if taken at once
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    The ability to absorb calcium drops off sharply after 600-800mg. Most of the rest will be excreted if taken at once
    Do you supplement with calcium Coop and if so how much/how often? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoforce View Post
    Do you supplement with calcium Coop and if so how much/how often? Just curious.
    I do not. Dairy is my primary protein source or at least 50/50 with meat, so I'm pretty good on that front
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    @EBF , forgot about this until today when a package showed up with 2 bottles of Jarrow Bromelain.
    You mentioned 2g a day, how/when do you split that up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    @EBF , forgot about this until today when a package showed up with 2 bottles of Jarrow Bromelain.
    You mentioned 2g a day, how/when do you split that up?
    I generally use it 1 hour pre workout, in between meals and pre bed
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    I had assumed pre-meal or with meals for the digestive benefits, I take it that for fat loss fasted is better. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post
    @EBF , forgot about this until today when a package showed up with 2 bottles of Jarrow Bromelain.
    You mentioned 2g a day, how/when do you split that up?
    I get 1-2doses with meal because I onmy eat 2xa day
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post

    I get 1-2doses with meal because I onmy eat 2xa day
    That makes sense then. I will try out 500mg with my 3 meals and 500mg preworkout, thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driven2lift View Post

    That makes sense then. I will try out 500mg with my 3 meals and 500mg preworkout, thanks again
    Careful going to high. Start easy and watch bowel movemte
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