A GOOD NATTY STRENGTH/ HARDENING STACK WHILE CUTTING?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    I just finished up a stack of Alphamax and Alphamine for a cut and had awesome results. Alphamax get's you all these goodies to help with hardening and strength increases.
    1.4g Divanil
    300mg 98% L-DOPA
    75mg Arimistane
    50mg 95% Forskolin
    4000iu Vitamin D3
    120mg ZMA

    Just Alphamax alone would be good for what you propose, but add in Alphamine and you're really going to see some nice results.
    I know people have said that Erase has given them bad side effects, from like bad joints n stuff like that, would that be from the Arimistane? and if so would i expect to see any of those bad side effects with Alphamax? what kind of results did you get?


  2. Armistane can definitely dry out your joints, but it also dries out your muscles to harden them up. Most run erase/alphamax/armistane products with some fish oil to help with that, while some people have no joint issues at all. I had great results but I'll link you to a few reviews from other users here. http://anabolicminds.com/forum/produ...-alphamax.html We've also got someone running a log right now, and quite a few people picked up the sale at NutraPlanet and we're getting great feedback.
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  3. Only thing I can think of since everything else has been covered is sleep. Probably something that is missed the most. So if you start having issues sleeping at all, look into Lights Out or Intimidate.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by veaderko View Post
    Only thing I can think of since everything else has been covered is sleep. Probably something that is missed the most. So if you start having issues sleeping at all, look into Lights Out or Intimidate.
    I def agree with the sleeping aspect, but would something like Alphamax help with that, because of ingridients like the ZMA?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    I def agree with the sleeping aspect, but would something like Alphamax help with that, because of ingridients like the ZMA?
    Alphamax definitely helps with sleep, all users have reported great, deep sleep while running alphamax. I personally had great sleep, albeit with some pretty vivid dreams!
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  6. Does ArA help with the joints in the sense that Fish oil does, like if ArA was ran with Alphamax or Erase?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Does ArA help with the joints in the sense that Fish oil does, like if ArA was ran with Alphamax or Erase?
    ArA most likely won't alleviate or prevent joint issues.
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  8. So.... before I purchase, Any more comments/ thoughts/ experience with ArA while cutting body fat %???? Will also add some forskolin in there most likely, because of the solid reviews.

  9. If you do choose alphamax the forskolin may not be necessary as it already contains 50mg 95% Forskolin, if you want to bump it up to 75-100 you can but watch out for stomach issues.


    As for sleep, the LDopa + ZMA make a huge difference in sleep quality.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by Adizzle1 View Post
    If you do choose alphamax the forskolin may not be necessary as it already contains 50mg 95% Forskolin, if you want to bump it up to 75-100 you can but watch out for stomach issues.


    As for sleep, the LDopa + ZMA make a huge difference in sleep quality.
    But in your experience, would someone that is 23 and probably doesn't have low test, really benefit from a product like Alphamax from the test standpoint?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    So after doing more research it does look like ABE will make you feel a lot hungrier, which i dont think i would want since I am trying to lose Body Fat, and the diet is hard enough as it is to maintain, is there a better alternative than ABE for a cut while stacking with ARA?
    You know ArA is going to increase your hunger as well right?

    Also, just because others have reported hunger increases doesn't mean you will. Plenty of people have reported no hunger increases with ABE.

    But if you don't want to go with ABE, go with Forskolin and Alphamine. Another solid choice is Bioforge.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    You know ArA is going to increase your hunger as well right?

    Also, just because others have reported hunger increases doesn't mean you will. Plenty of people have reported no hunger increases with ABE.

    But if you don't want to go with ABE, go with Forskolin and Alphamine. Another solid choice is Bioforge.
    Ya Im not sure I really understand ArA, even tho iv been trying to research it.....

  13. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    You know ArA is going to increase your hunger as well right?

    Also, just because others have reported hunger increases doesn't mean you will. Plenty of people have reported no hunger increases with ABE.

    But if you don't want to go with ABE, go with Forskolin and Alphamine. Another solid choice is Bioforge.
    Also so are you saying if I went with ABE, I wouldnt need the forskolin or alphamine, unless i wanted bigger dose of forskolin obviously

  14. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Ya Im not sure I really understand ArA, even tho iv been trying to research it.....
    You may be over complicating things. I mean I know you want to get something that is going to be effective on your cut, and many people have ran ArA and/or ABE on cuts and found them very effective.

    And then again, people have ran them on bulks and found them very effective as well.
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  15. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Also so are you saying if I went with ABE, I wouldnt need the forskolin or alphamine, unless i wanted bigger dose of forskolin obviously
    Yes, you do not need either Forskolin or Alphamine, but combining the three will yield greater results.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    You may be over complicating things..
    this is what happens when you ask for answers, and get a gazillion different replies in feedback .. being force-fed the info does absolutely nothing, if the poster does not understand the compounds or even the basic premise behind the compounds
    kudos to you however for your patient attempts here..

    OP -- spend some time reading and observing on your own, before you listen to someone online and their suggestions
    make certain a product fits all of your own personal needs, and that you know how to use it

  17. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    But in your experience, would someone that is 23 and probably doesn't have low test, really benefit from a product like Alphamax from the test standpoint?
    At that age you may not see much of a boost in test, but would notice the other benefits from Alphamax. I have to agree with other posters in here as well, you don't NEED anything. Supplements are meant to do as they're named, supplement hard work and a dedication to nutrition.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    At that age you may not see much of a boost in test, but would notice the other benefits from Alphamax. I have to agree with other posters in here as well, you don't NEED anything. Supplements are meant to do as they're named, supplement hard work and a dedication to nutrition.
    AMEN! too many ppl/reps around here acting like supplements are the answers to everything....diet and training will really give you the results, supplements are just there to supplement those and rn't the end all be all

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
    AMEN! too many ppl/reps around here acting like supplements are the answers to everything....diet and training will really give you the results, supplements are just there to supplement those and rn't the end all be all
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  20. I have similar questions as the OP. I just started taking Alphamine which will last me about a month on 3 scoops a day. I am on a leangains style cut and am incredibly detailed with macro counting (it's fun to me). I've used alphamine one time before but my diet was ****, which is not the case now, so I'm very excited to see if the hype is justified.

    I ordered two bottles of ABE which will last 8 weeks, which I'll start taking as soon as they get here. I assume I should consume my ABE in my 8 hour feeding window, even on off days? Have heard it causes a hypoglycemia effect if taken on an empty stomach.

    So will 8 weeks of ABE and 4-5 of alphamine be benefitted by adding additional forskolin? I could just add one forskolin 95 a day and the $20 bottle would last the entire ABE cycle.

    I'm kind of hesitant to add ArA as well since I do want to see how the ABE works. Ironically I got the last of last years formula so won't be able to rebuy it even if it does work! I'm definitely curious about ArA but I worry it ya be supplement overload.

    Edit: forskolin 95 is out of stock everywhere, weird...

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Young Gotti View Post
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by hypo View Post
    I have similar questions as the OP. I just started taking Alphamine which will last me about a month on 3 scoops a day. I am on a leangains style cut and am incredibly detailed with macro counting (it's fun to me). I've used alphamine one time before but my diet was ****, which is not the case now, so I'm very excited to see if the hype is justified. I ordered two bottles of ABE which will last 8 weeks, which I'll start taking as soon as they get here. I assume I should consume my ABE in my 8 hour feeding window, even on off days? Have heard it causes a hypoglycemia effect if taken on an empty stomach. So will 8 weeks of ABE and 4-5 of alphamine be benefitted by adding additional forskolin? I could just add one forskolin 95 a day and the $20 bottle would last the entire ABE cycle. I'm kind of hesitant to add ArA as well since I do want to see how the ABE works. Ironically I got the last of last years formula so won't be able to rebuy it even if it does work! I'm definitely curious about ArA but I worry it ya be supplement overload. Edit: forskolin 95 is out of stock everywhere, weird...
    Yes, get your ABE doses in your 8 hour feeding window.

    8 weeks of ABE with 4-5 weeks of Alphamine and additional Forskolin (if you can find it) will be great. And with a well detailed diet, you should see some awesome gains.
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  24. Officially am going with ArA and Forskolin 95 (after I finally found some)...I will run these for about 4 weeks along with my staples (creatine, agmatine, PWO, BCAAs)

    Then, depending on where I'm at progress wise, I'll add either AnaBeta Elite or Alphamax and running that with the ArA and Forskolin 95 for an additional 8 weeks.

    And at the very end if I'm still not looking as lean as I would want, maybe do a short cycle of just Erase and Alphamine....

    Thoughts on my final cutting cycle/ dosing recommendations?

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  26. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Officially am going with ArA and Forskolin 95 (after I finally found some)...I will run these for about 4 weeks along with my staples (creatine, agmatine, PWO, BCAAs)

    Then, depending on where I'm at progress wise, I'll add either AnaBeta Elite or Alphamax and running that with the ArA and Forskolin 95 for an additional 8 weeks.

    And at the very end if I'm still not looking as lean as I would want, maybe do a short cycle of just Erase and Alphamine....

    Thoughts on my final cutting cycle/ dosing recommendations?
    Quick questions. Have you used Erase or Erase Pro before? How long is a "short cycle"?

    I would run both together at least for 4 weeks. As for dosing, I love Alphamine first thing in the morning whether I am doing a fasted workout then or not and then an additional dose in the middle of the afternoon. The second dose may change though depending on how much additional caffeine I am drinking in a day and if I am using a different product for a pre-workout.

    As for Erase, I prefer Erase Pro and only take 1 pill in the morning with my Alphamine. For original Erase, I would suggest starting with 1 pill in the morning and an additional dose about 8 hours later. Do that for a few days and then add in a third dose before bed. If you start feeling sides like sore joints, then just drop back to 2 a day. You can take all 2 or 3 pills first thing in the morning as well for convenience, but some people like to spread it out.

    Looks like a good game plan!
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by Aleksandar37 View Post
    Quick questions. Have you used Erase or Erase Pro before? How long is a "short cycle"?

    I would run both together at least for 4 weeks. As for dosing, I love Alphamine first thing in the morning whether I am doing a fasted workout then or not and then an additional dose in the middle of the afternoon. The second dose may change though depending on how much additional caffeine I am drinking in a day and if I am using a different product for a pre-workout.

    As for Erase, I prefer Erase Pro and only take 1 pill in the morning with my Alphamine. For original Erase, I would suggest starting with 1 pill in the morning and an additional dose about 8 hours later. Do that for a few days and then add in a third dose before bed. If you start feeling sides like sore joints, then just drop back to 2 a day. You can take all 2 or 3 pills first thing in the morning as well for convenience, but some people like to spread it out.

    Looks like a good game plan!
    No I have never used Erase before, which is why I was going to run ArA/ Forskolin and then add either ABE or Alphamax....and only if after that I still wasn't as lean as I wanted, but muscle/ strength was still good, I would consider running Erase and Alphamine (4 wks or so)..What about dosing my weeks 1-12 (ara, forskolin, and then addition of ABE or Alphamax)?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Officially am going with ArA and Forskolin 95 (after I finally found some)...I will run these for about 4 weeks along with my staples (creatine, agmatine, PWO, BCAAs)

    Then, depending on where I'm at progress wise, I'll add either AnaBeta Elite or Alphamax and running that with the ArA and Forskolin 95 for an additional 8 weeks.

    And at the very end if I'm still not looking as lean as I would want, maybe do a short cycle of just Erase and Alphamine....

    Thoughts on my final cutting cycle/ dosing recommendations?
    I would consider running Alphamine with the last 4 weeks of Alphamax. I saw great results in the leaning out department with that combo. After 8 weeks you probably wouldn't want to run Erase, as that would be 12 weeks in a row with armistane, and the reccomended time for that is 8 weeks.
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  29. X factor
    Bioforge
    Anabeta Elite
    Erase Pro
    Forakolin 95

    That would be sick. I currently running this stack except anabeta elite

  30. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    I would consider running Alphamine with the last 4 weeks of Alphamax. I saw great results in the leaning out department with that combo. After 8 weeks you probably wouldn't want to run Erase, as that would be 12 weeks in a row with armistane, and the reccomended time for that is 8 weeks.
    Okay so Run ArA and Forskolin and then Add in ABE/ Alphamax and Alphamine for the leaning out.. Sounds good to me.

  31. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Okay so Run ArA and Forskolin and then Add in ABE/ Alphamax and Alphamine for the leaning out.. Sounds good to me.
    that would be a perfect set up but keep in mind AlphaMax already contains 50mg of 95% Forskolin so dont over due it with the F95.
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  32. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Okay so Run ArA and Forskolin and then Add in ABE/ Alphamax and Alphamine for the leaning out.. Sounds good to me.
    Sorry misread your prior post and was only seeing Alphamine, not Alphamax. I agree you would not want to run a 4 week of Erase right after 8 of Alphamax.
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  33. Tis thread has been informative as OP had many of he same questions I have had. I start my ArA (4caps) /Forskolin (@100mg) stack tomorrow. Will use with my pwo, Creatine, bcaa, OT and fish oils taken later, and some zma at night until I run out. Can't wait to see what this stack can do!
  

  
 

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