A GOOD NATTY STRENGTH/ HARDENING STACK WHILE CUTTING?

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Ya I think I'm gunna get rid of the CLA and look at ArA some more, but the reviews look good, just confused on what effects it is really gunna have, or what people's real results from it have been during a caloric deficit??? Also for taking both ARA and ABE during a cut. What are some dosing recommendations?
    Reviews I have seen from people cutting with ArA are keeping and even adding strength while noticing body composition changes. I ran ArA and ABE on a recomp and my body composition drastically changed while adding LMB and strength shot through the roof.

    ArA: dose 1-2 grams pre-workout. No need for dosing on off days.
    ABE: 2 pre / 2 post. Off days - 1/1/1/1
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  2. Okay looks like this is gunna be what I run for three weeks:

    Creatine
    ArA (x gels i guess?)
    Fish oil
    Multi
    Protein
    Pre-workout
    Agmatine

    And then add Anabeta Elite to this after three weeks or so...thoughts??

    Anyone see any problems with anything in this stack, or have any last minute recommendations?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Okay looks like this is gunna be what I run for three weeks: Creatine ArA (x gels i guess?) Fish oil Multi Protein Pre-workout Agmatine And then add Anabeta Elite to this after three weeks or so...thoughts?? Anyone see any problems with anything in this stack, or have any last minute recommendations?
    X-Gels or X-Factor.

    If you do the fish oil, dose 4-6 hours away from ArA.

    Looks good otherwise.
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  4. Ya I forgot to take fish oil out of my list, I know ARA is supposed to rise vascularity, among other things would taking Agmatine still be beneficial?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Ya I forgot to take fish oil out of my list, I know ARA is supposed to rise vascularity, among other things would taking Agmatine still be beneficial?
    For sure. Can be used pre-workout, pre-meals, or pre-bed.
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  6. The agmatine?

  7. Yes
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  8. Alphamine for the HICA
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  9. I'd add forksolin-95 to the earlier part of your stack for the recomp effects

  10. Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post
    Alphamine for the HICA
    Dumb question but does HICA stand for again on here? Haha

  11. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Dumb question but does HICA stand for again on here? Haha
    Alpha-hydroxy-isocaproic acid

  12. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I'd add forksolin-95 to the earlier part of your stack for the recomp effects
    Do you mean during like the first 3 weeks, and then stop when I add the ABE?

  13. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Do you mean during like the first 3 weeks, and then stop when I add the ABE?
    No. Start the Forskolin with the ArA and continue running it even when you add in ABE (1-2 Forskolin caps a day).
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    No. Start the Forskolin with the ArA and continue running it even when you add in ABE (1-2 Forskolin caps a day).
    Does the Anabeta not have enough Forskolin in it I guess?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Does the Anabeta not have enough Forskolin in it I guess?
    It has enough, it is just that a higher dose (75-100mg) seem to give better effects.

    And running Forskolin for a longer period of time (12 weeks) is recommended also.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    It has enough, it is just that a higher dose (75-100mg) seem to give better effects. And running Forskolin for a longer period of time (12 weeks) is recommended also.
    And the ABE for 8weeks? And how long for the ARA?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    And the ABE for 8weeks? And how long for the ARA?
    Yes for ABE. ArA, run for 50 workout days. So depending on how many days a week you workout, ArA could last for a while.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Yes for ABE. ArA, run for 50 workout days. So depending on how many days a week you workout, ArA could last for a while.
    So that's about 50-100 grams of ARA needed for that, right? And what is recommended forskolin dosing times?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    So that's about 50-100 grams of ARA needed for that, right? And what is recommended forskolin dosing times?
    Yes. Need 2 100ct bottles for 1 gram a day , about 3.25 bottles for 1.5 grams, and 4 bottles for 2 grams.

    You can either dose in the AM, pre-workout, post-workout, or pre-bed.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Yes. Need 2 100ct bottles for 1 gram a day , about 3.25 bottles for 1.5 grams, and 4 bottles for 2 grams. You can either dose in the AM, pre-workout, post-workout, or pre-bed.
    Alright got it. Hey thanks for all the help on this *kbayne n others. Helps out a lot. I'll try to keep you posted on what it end up going with and the progress

  21. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Alright got it. Hey thanks for all the help on this *kbayne n others. Helps out a lot. I'll try to keep you posted on what it end up going with and the progress
    Yeah, keep us posted.
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  22. Also last? any side effects from stopping taking these supplements (ARA, ABE, forskolin) when done, or possible gains going back down or anything like that? But be dumb question, but just wanna double check from anyone with experience with these.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Also last? any side effects from stopping taking these supplements (ARA, ABE, forskolin) when done, or possible gains going back down or anything like that? But be dumb question, but just wanna double check from anyone with experience with these.
    No side effects should take place. Diet will play a huge role in keeping the gains. You will actually keep seeing gains for about 2 weeks after stopping the ArA.
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  24. Same thing with progress on cutting body fat % progress I'm assuming?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by HollingW View Post
    Same thing with progress on cutting body fat % progress I'm assuming?
    You got it.
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