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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    That literally says nothing about how the insulin spike with'high gi carbs' is the same as low lol
    No but thats how fat storage works. My work calls tonight . Ill post my link tomorrow. In the mean time...please link the difference between the insulin response from a high gi carb and a low that is not related to bodybuilding. Also make sure its relative to trained individuals. Believe it or not we do store less fat than sedentary individuals.

    Also please enlighten me why bodybuilders should use the glycemic index.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    No but thats how fat storage works. My work calls tonight . Ill post my link tomorrow. In the mean time...please link the difference between the insulin response from a high gi carb and a low that is not related to bodybuilding. Also make sure its relative to trained individuals. Believe it or not we do store less fat than sedentary individuals.

    Also please enlighten me why bodybuilders should use the glycemic index.
    Seriously? Are you saying that the insulin response from a monosaccaride non fructose compound is the same as a polysaccaride or fructose compound?

    Cmon man; the higher the GI of a substance, the more insulin is secreted to deal with it. Im not saying it causes greater fat storage in isolation, but the response does happen. I do glycometer testing and insulin response testing all the time at uni; there is a vast difference in insulin resultant from glucose taken in isolation and fructose taken in isolation.

    You can see graphs of insulin response/ time comparing high gi with low gi.
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    Interesting debate forming....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    Seriously? Are you saying that the insulin response from a monosaccaride non fructose compound is the same as a polysaccaride or fructose compound?

    Cmon man; the higher the GI of a substance, the more insulin is secreted to deal with it. Im not saying it causes greater fat storage in isolation, but the response does happen. I do glycometer testing and insulin response testing all the time at uni; there is a vast difference in insulin resultant from glucose taken in isolation and fructose taken in isolation.

    You can see graphs of insulin response/ time comparing high gi with low gi.
    Right...fat storage was the subject here. Insulin reacts the same,goes through the same process and at the end of the day if you aren't diabetic there is absolutely no reason to avoid any carb source.

    Just my opinion I guess. I enjoy white rice more than brown, I will continue to eat regular potatos vs sweet potatos and I will add a table spoon of sugar to my coffee. It ends up in the same place in the same way. Elevated blood glucose can even happen when eating turkey which I believe the glycemic index doesn't even cover that haha! Carbs aren't the only source of blood glucose at the end of the day.

    But..I realize this topic is turning into a debate and this is not the topic. So...I won't be covering anymore of that here. Give this guy some suggestions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post

    Right...fat storage was the subject here. Insulin reacts the same,goes through the same process and at the end of the day if you aren't diabetic there is absolutely no reason to avoid any carb source.

    Just my opinion I guess. I enjoy white rice more than brown, I will continue to eat regular potatos vs sweet potatos and I will add a table spoon of sugar to my coffee. It ends up in the same place in the same way. Elevated blood glucose can even happen when eating turkey which I believe the glycemic index doesn't even cover that haha! Carbs aren't the only source of blood glucose at the end of the day.
    Ok now I see where you are going with that. I just thought you meant there wasnt a spike at all. Yeah im of the same mindset as yoh
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    I thought whole point was to not raise blood sugar levels too rapidly- keep them stable or go up slowly. Glycemic index should be considered by also glycemic load. Not that I strictly follow that, but I thought that was the point. To stop the yo-yo effect of blood sugar up and downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Seriously? Are you saying that the insulin response from a monosaccaride non fructose compound is the same as a polysaccaride or fructose compound?

    Cmon man; the higher the GI of a substance, the more insulin is secreted to deal with it. Im not saying it causes greater fat storage in isolation, but the response does happen. I do glycometer testing and insulin response testing all the time at uni; there is a vast difference in insulin resultant from glucose taken in isolation and fructose taken in isolation.

    You can see graphs of insulin response/ time comparing high gi with low gi.
    Higher GI = higher insulin spike in isolation. Total insulin release is the same

    key phrase: "in isolation"
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Higher GI = higher insulin spike in isolation. Total insulin release is the same

    key phrase: "in isolation"
    Absolutely; i thought i included that in there.

    I don't use the GI index because I rarely eat foods in isolation.

    I just thought he meant there was no spike following a high gi food taken in isolation, but i misinterpreted that.
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    Conclusion? Get SELECT Protein! (=
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Conclusion? Get SELECT Protein! (=
    I'm saving up to get a bulk supply with my 75% off coupon from the recipe thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyjd View Post

    I'm saving up to get a bulk supply with my 75% off coupon from the recipe thread
    Smart move, stock up at that discount!
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    Smart move, stock up at that discount!
    I'm thinking to get like 6 tubs among other things
  

  
 

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