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  1. So everything went really well yesterday with the added dosing and such. Only thing of not was that I had some serious gas cramps in the evening that had me a bit uncomfortable for a couple hours... Not sure what from as nothing has changed in my diet so I'll be interested to see if it continues or maybe just a passing thing.


  2. I'm guessing it's from the bump up in forsk. Hopefully that'll clear up soon!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by nicksox15 View Post
    I'm guessing it's from the bump up in forsk. Hopefully that'll clear up soon!
    I figure that paired with the excessive amount of cabbage I've had ha.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    I figure that paired with the excessive amount of cabbage I've had ha.
    That's enough to cramp most ppl up
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post
    That's enough to cramp most ppl up
    Yep for sure. I absolutely love cabbage, Brussels sprouts, and broccoli so naturally I'm a bit "cramp prone"
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Product Rep - db77 @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com
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  6. Day:12

    Morning Weight: 195.1lb, 16.1%bf(scale)

    Solid weekend of cardio and a few misc rear delt exercises and pullups. I played hockey sat night for the first time in a few months and man can I feel that extra weight I put on during the holidays. Overall stack is feeling great. I'm not losing weight as fast as I did last time I dieted like this, but I think that's a good thing and that I'll keep more muscle because of the recompadrol as it will better feed my muscles and not just make me lose weight, but fat.

    Today will be back/bi's and I think I'm gonna add deadlifts back in to the beginning of my workout (taken a few weeks off and they're not "technically" part of the program I'm using but I love/miss them and just think the program was designed more for beginners even though it worked last time). Probably gonna sub in squats for leg presses too on Fridays from now on.

  7. Bit late bro but I'm in. Will have to catch up later

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Bit late bro but I'm in. Will have to catch up later
    Good to have you along.

    All GI issues have seemingly subsided so everything is smooth sailing now. Current layout for diet and supplementation (I eat almost exactly the same thing every weekday so this is a Mon-Fri schedule):

    4:36a - x2 AAV2, 50mg F-95, 1.5sc Alphamine - Back to sleep til 4:56a

    5:05a - 20min LISS cardio (treadmill @ 3.5-4mph - my treadmill is a pos and will randomly take off and shoot to 8mph for a min at times so that's always a treat)

    5:25-5:50a Cook meal 1, x2 Recompadrol - Off to work

    6:20a Meal 1: 1c Oats, 2tbsp hot sauce, 5 egg whites, 1.5c spinach, x1 CLA, x1 Fish Oil, 2sc Metabolic Powder (420kcal, 27p/57c/6f)

    9a x2 Recompadrol

    9:30a Meal 2: 3/4c oats, 2sc No Whey! Pumpkin Pie (1srvg), 1c salad, 1tbsp salsa, x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (444kcal, 41p/60c/5f)

    12p x2 Recompadrol

    12:30p Meal 3: 8oz chicken (or venison), 1c salad, 1tbsp salsa, 2 slices whole wheat toast (or 1 med sweet potato), x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (venison and toast: 519kcal, 77p/35c/7f)

    2:10p 1sc Alphamine, 25mg F-95

    2:50p Training (MWF - 45-65min, 3-4 sets, 10-15reps, 3-4 exercises per body part; TRSSu - 20min LISS cardio + 3x3x20 abs + rear delt work)

    4p 1sc whey isolate, 5g creatine monohydrate (166kcal, 30p/2c + creatine cals)

    6p 4oz chicken, 4oz venison, 2c broccoli, 1tbsp wasabi, 1tbsp soy sauce, x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (350kcal, 56p/13c/5f)

    9p 1sc Phase 8 protein, 1sc Metabolic Powder, x1 CLA (150kcal, 26p/7c/2f)

    Daily macros: 2049kcal, 257P/174c/25f

    My daily goal is ~1800-2000kcal

  9. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    My daily goal is ~1800-2000kcal
    Hey bro! Wouldn't these many calories be too low for you to preserve muscle? On another note, have you tried a only fat and protein diet (ketogenic diet)?
    I will start my cutting program two weeks down the line and your inputs on the various supplements will be very enlightening.. I will peruse through what you're using and come back for reviews/ guidance..

  10. Quote Originally Posted by RockyRambo View Post
    Hey bro! Wouldn't these many calories be too low for you to preserve muscle? On another note, have you tried a only fat and protein diet (ketogenic diet)?
    I will start my cutting program two weeks down the line and your inputs on the various supplements will be very enlightening.. I will peruse through what you're using and come back for reviews/ guidance..
    As with any cut, a small amount of muscle loss is going to be inevitable but to answer your question I've calculated my TDEE and then dropped slightly below that to get my 1800-2000 area. The last time I ran this diet and exercise program I saw only minimal muscle loss so I'm confident in it. I'll be tweaking things as I go along as well to better accommodate my current state at that time.

    As for the keto diet, I actually ran that this summer for awhile and liked it but felt like there was so much that I couldn't eat. Most protein bars (which are just easy for a quick snack when you're on the go) and stuff like that become an issue. The weight loss was on par with what I'm doing now so I found that I prefer it this way just more for sanity's sake.

    Feel free to post up any questions or whatnot. There's some good bros in here already and hopefully more to come!

  11. Will be bumping my morning alphamine dose to the full 2 scoops (+1 pre workout in the afternoon) starting tomorrow. Everything is going quite well so far since my body finally adjusted to the forskolin. I'm currently at 75mg/day (50am/25pm). Is there anyone who has tried/recommends 100mg/day?

    Also as a side note, the joint pain that I had from my tx-3 cycle has gone away finally so I'm having some much more productive lifting sessions.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Will be bumping my morning alphamine dose to the full 2 scoops (+1 pre workout in the afternoon) starting tomorrow. Everything is going quite well so far since my body finally adjusted to the forskolin. I'm currently at 75mg/day (50am/25pm). Is there anyone who has tried/recommends 100mg/day?

    Also as a side note, the joint pain that I had from my tx-3 cycle has gone away finally so I'm having some much more productive lifting sessions.
    If you're speaking of Forskolin, then yes, I have been taking 100mg daily before my stash ran out. Never had any negative issues or side effects from it. I heard that 100mg is the sweet spot and that there's no need to go any higher unless you like to waste money...LOL!!!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    If you're speaking of Forskolin, then yes, I have been taking 100mg daily before my stash ran out. Never had any negative issues or side effects from it. I heard that 100mg is the sweet spot and that there's no need to go any higher unless you like to waste money...LOL!!!
    Did you run it at 75mg at all? And if so, did you notice a difference?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Did you run it at 75mg at all? And if so, did you notice a difference?
    At first, I started small like 50mg to see if I would get any GI issues and I didn't. Then ramped it up to 75mg then eventually to 100mg. To be honest, I did not noticed any difference so I may have been wasting money at the 100mg mark. Who knows? However, I do notice how my body is and responds to F95 when taking it.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    At first, I started small like 50mg to see if I would get any GI issues and I didn't. Then ramped it up to 75mg then eventually to 100mg. To be honest, I did not noticed any difference so I may have been wasting money at the 100mg mark. Who knows? However, I do notice how my body is and responds to F95 when taking it.
    Exactly what I was looking for. I had a feeling very few people have done a full 8-12week run wiht 75 and another with 100 so I guess its a try on your own kind of thing.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Exactly what I was looking for. I had a feeling very few people have done a full 8-12week run wiht 75 and another with 100 so I guess its a try on your own kind of thing.
    Yep, you got it. IMO, forskolin still dosen't get the credit it deserves....

  17. Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    Yep, you got it. IMO, forskolin still dosen't get the credit it deserves....
    That's for sure... I only just heard about it within the last year or so, but after doing some research found that its been around for much longer. I was very surprised.

    Bumped up to 2 scoops of alphamine this morning. Was sweating like crazy after just 5min. I didn't account for extra time to shower so now I'm sitting at work all day and can smell my balls. Oops.

    I'm gonna try out some Pump X3 by Lecheek Nutrition (1sc pre workout) and see how I like it. Legs/Shoulders today. Bringing the squats back after a short break.

    For the EBF boys:
    Ive been using the Metabolic powder as such and was wondering if you could comment on if this seems optimal or give any tweaks to the layout-
    Meal 1: 2sc
    Meal 2: 1sc
    Meal 3: 1sc
    Pre workout: 1sc
    Post workout shake: None
    Meal 4: 1sc
    Pre bed shake: 1 sc

  18. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    That's for sure... I only just heard about it within the last year or so, but after doing some research found that its been around for much longer. I was very surprised.

    Bumped up to 2 scoops of alphamine this morning. Was sweating like crazy after just 5min. I didn't account for extra time to shower so now I'm sitting at work all day and can smell my balls. Oops.

    I'm gonna try out some Pump X3 by Lecheek Nutrition (1sc pre workout) and see how I like it. Legs/Shoulders today. Bringing the squats back after a short break.

    For the EBF boys:
    Ive been using the Metabolic powder as such and was wondering if you could comment on if this seems optimal or give any tweaks to the layout-
    Meal 1: 2sc
    Meal 2: 1sc
    Meal 3: 1sc
    Pre workout: 1sc
    Post workout shake: None
    Meal 4: 1sc
    Pre bed shake: 1 sc
    LOL...."smell my balls" LOL!

    Please keep us updated on your cutting stack.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    That's for sure... I only just heard about it within the last year or so, but after doing some research found that its been around for much longer. I was very surprised.

    Bumped up to 2 scoops of alphamine this morning. Was sweating like crazy after just 5min. I didn't account for extra time to shower so now I'm sitting at work all day and can smell my balls. Oops.

    I'm gonna try out some Pump X3 by Lecheek Nutrition (1sc pre workout) and see how I like it. Legs/Shoulders today. Bringing the squats back after a short break.

    For the EBF boys:
    Ive been using the Metabolic powder as such and was wondering if you could comment on if this seems optimal or give any tweaks to the layout-
    Meal 1: 2sc
    Meal 2: 1sc
    Meal 3: 1sc
    Pre workout: 1sc
    Post workout shake: None
    Meal 4: 1sc
    Pre bed shake: 1 sc
    Dosing is fine man.
    ...::: Olympus Labs Athlete & Representative :::...
    Crossfit - DEMIGOD -

  20. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    I've decided to begin cutting a bit earlier this year. I'd like some critique on the supplement plan, dose timing, and any other particular tips/ideas. If there is enough interest I may end up logging this so let me hear you. I will be running a 12 week cut (potentially longer if I'm either not where I want to be or am still feeling very motivated). Below is my stack, dosing, diet, and training that I'm planning. The diet and training are pretty untouchable as I have used this exact program in the past and was able to get down from ~12%bf to ~5%bf in 14 weeks. I've added quite a bit of muscle this fall and am excited to see the new look.

    Currently I'm sitting at 5'10" a new record high weight at 204.6lb and 18.2% bf (not exactly correct as I'm just using the scale's value but it will give some reference if I decide to log this, I estimate I'm actually closer to 15%) as of this morning. Goal is to get to 7-8%bf and bring my abs back out in full force.

    Supplements:
    Staples: Multi, Fish oil, CLA, Creatine Mono (1 pill w/ each meal)

    EBF - Recompadrol (1 pill 20-30min before first 3 meals for the first few days, then 2pills after); Metabolic Powder (2sc w/ meal 1, 1 sc with meal 2,3,4); Adipose Annihilation V2 (2 pills upon waking)

    Analyzed Supplements - Forskolin 95, 50-75mg/day (25mg upon waking + 25mg pre-workout for first few days, then 50mg AM +25mg Pre)

    PES - OG Alphamine (1 sc upon waking + 1 sc pre-workout for first few days, then 2 sc AM + 1 sc Pre); Amino IV (2 sc post fasted cardio once meal 1 has been dropped)

    USP Labs - Compound 20 (start once I'm under 10%bf to maximize effect, dosing as directed on bottle); AP (whenever I run out of Recompadrol, 1 cap with meals 1-3)

    Others in the cabinet: misc pre-workouts (have Jack3d Advanced, Fitmax, Build N.O, FlashOver, Prodigy); iForce Dexaprine XR/TT-33 (if I run out of alphamine); Lecheek Hyper T2/OxyECA Black; Finaflex PX-Black; USP Labs Prime/Versa 1; SNS Glycophase; Genomyx Slin Sane V2

    Typical weekday layout:
    4:45a (wake up) - 1-2sc Alphamine, 25-50mg F95, 2 AAV2
    5a - Fasted LISS cardio (20-30min, increasing throughout cut)
    6:15a - Meal 1: 1c oats, 5 egg whites, 1c spinach (Recompadrol, MP) - late in the cut I may eliminate this meal and use PES Amino IV and fast til 9am
    9a - Meal 2: 3/4c oats, 1sc protein, 1c salad w/ salsa (Recompadrol, MP)
    12p - Meal 3: 1 med sweet potato, 8oz chicken, 1c salad w/ salsa (Recompadrol, MP)
    2p - 1sc Alphamine, 25mg F95, Pre-workout as needed
    3p - Cardio + Abs (tue/thu) or Lifting (mon/wed/fri)
    4p - Post Workout Shake (20-30g protein, 5g creatine mono)
    6p - Meal 4: 8oz Chicken, 1c broccoli
    8p - Pre-Bed Meal: 1 sc casein
    9-10p - Go to bed (fri nights may be 11p-12a or so)

    Typical weekend layout:
    9a (wake up) - 1-2sc Alphamine, 25-50mg F95, 2 AAV2
    9:20a - Fasted LISS cardio (20-30min, increasing throughout cut)
    10:15a - Meal 1: 1c oats, 5 egg whites, 1c spinach (Recompadrol, MP)
    1p - Meal 2: 1 med sweet potato, 8oz chicken, 1c salad w/ salsa (Recompadrol, MP)
    2:45p - 1sc Alphamine, 25mg F95
    3:15p - Cardio + Abs
    4p - Meal 3: 8oz chicken, 1c salad w/ salsa (Recompadrol, MP)
    6p - Meal 4: 8oz Chicken, 1c broccoli
    8p - Meal 5: 8oz Chicken, 1c brussels sprouts (sat only)
    10p - Pre-Bed Meal: 1 sc casein (sat only, will replace meal 5/8pm on sunday)
    Go to bed (Sat nights may be 11p-12a or so)

    Training split is Mon/Wed/Fri, Back+Biceps/Chest+Triceps/Legs+Shoulders
    Duno how I missed this, but I'm here now

  21. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    Good to have you along.

    All GI issues have seemingly subsided so everything is smooth sailing now. Current layout for diet and supplementation (I eat almost exactly the same thing every weekday so this is a Mon-Fri schedule):

    4:36a - x2 AAV2, 50mg F-95, 1.5sc Alphamine - Back to sleep til 4:56a

    5:05a - 20min LISS cardio (treadmill @ 3.5-4mph - my treadmill is a pos and will randomly take off and shoot to 8mph for a min at times so that's always a treat)

    5:25-5:50a Cook meal 1, x2 Recompadrol - Off to work

    6:20a Meal 1: 1c Oats, 2tbsp hot sauce, 5 egg whites, 1.5c spinach, x1 CLA, x1 Fish Oil, 2sc Metabolic Powder (420kcal, 27p/57c/6f)

    9a x2 Recompadrol

    9:30a Meal 2: 3/4c oats, 2sc No Whey! Pumpkin Pie (1srvg), 1c salad, 1tbsp salsa, x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (444kcal, 41p/60c/5f)

    12p x2 Recompadrol

    12:30p Meal 3: 8oz chicken (or venison), 1c salad, 1tbsp salsa, 2 slices whole wheat toast (or 1 med sweet potato), x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (venison and toast: 519kcal, 77p/35c/7f)

    2:10p 1sc Alphamine, 25mg F-95

    2:50p Training (MWF - 45-65min, 3-4 sets, 10-15reps, 3-4 exercises per body part; TRSSu - 20min LISS cardio + 3x3x20 abs + rear delt work)

    4p 1sc whey isolate, 5g creatine monohydrate (166kcal, 30p/2c + creatine cals)

    6p 4oz chicken, 4oz venison, 2c broccoli, 1tbsp wasabi, 1tbsp soy sauce, x1 CLA, 1sc Metabolic Powder (350kcal, 56p/13c/5f)

    9p 1sc Phase 8 protein, 1sc Metabolic Powder, x1 CLA (150kcal, 26p/7c/2f)

    Daily macros: 2049kcal, 257P/174c/25f

    My daily goal is ~1800-2000kcal
    Meal one switch out Recomp for mp, no need for Recomp there of using mp IMO

  22. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    That's for sure... I only just heard about it within the last year or so, but after doing some research found that its been around for much longer. I was very surprised.

    Bumped up to 2 scoops of alphamine this morning. Was sweating like crazy after just 5min. I didn't account for extra time to shower so now I'm sitting at work all day and can smell my balls. Oops.

    I'm gonna try out some Pump X3 by Lecheek Nutrition (1sc pre workout) and see how I like it. Legs/Shoulders today. Bringing the squats back after a short break.

    For the EBF boys:
    Ive been using the Metabolic powder as such and was wondering if you could comment on if this seems optimal or give any tweaks to the layout-
    Meal 1: 2sc
    Meal 2: 1sc
    Meal 3: 1sc
    Pre workout: 1sc
    Post workout shake: None
    Meal 4: 1sc
    Pre bed shake: 1 sc
    Just use it with first carb meal after fasted cardio, post workout if you want and last carb meal

    You should also use it for a mixed macro meal.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Just use it with first carb meal after fasted cardio, post workout if you want and last carb meal You should also use it for a mixed macro meal.
    Glad to have you in here. I've been using a 1 scoop dose with all meals except meal 1 where I doubled up due to the extra carbs. Is the recompadrol and mp overkill for those first 3 meals? One or the other instead?
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Product Rep - db77 @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com

  24. Absolutely loving 2sc alphamine and 1sc metabolic powder first thing in the morning. Gets me up and sweating in minutes and feeling like a champ.
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Product Rep - db77 @ seriousnutritionsolutions.com

  25. Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post

    Glad to have you in here. I've been using a 1 scoop dose with all meals except meal 1 where I doubled up due to the extra carbs. Is the recompadrol and mp overkill for those first 3 meals? One or the other instead?
    I'd use mp on pro/fat meals and post workout.

    Recompadrol on others

    Just to make it simple
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