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    Quote Originally Posted by cbsharpe View Post
    Dang bro, I had to take a break from reading your detailed plan....LOL!!!
    Haha here's the shorthand: added 1sc MP pre cardio, removed 1/2c Oats from meal 1, 1/4c Oats and MP from meal 2, chicken only and no MP meal 3, added an extra training day on sunday, 2sc MP with each of my pwo meals.
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    This morning's fail/entertainment: So I had to go in to work an hr later then normal today so I was adjusting my alarms for the morning stack and rise... Well, I messed up and set my stack alarm (usually 25min before I actually get up) for 4am (instead of 5) and then my regular alarm for 5:30... Well not only did I take my alphamine/F95/AAv2 at 4am, but I actually slept the entire time ha. Woke up in a bit of puddle though as I had started sweating already.

    Apparently caffeine doesn't do much for waking me up but man did I get sweaty ha. Good times.
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    Starting today I'll be adding a second dose of AAv2 in the afternoons with my second alphamine and f95. Can't wait to weigh in on Monday and see how the changes impact everything
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    I like your stack.... I purchased it and im going to run it too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskool View Post
    I like your stack.... I purchased it and im going to run it too...
    Very nice. I'm loving it from all aspects thus far.

    MP/Recompadrol with meals is really helping me maintain weight but lose bf. The scale is creeping down slowly but I've already gotten comments that my face looks thinner and my pants are getting looser.

    The alphamine is a perfect amount of stim for the morning wake-up and I've been doing quite well in the afternoons with 1sc+pump product some days. I'm always amped to go to the gym anyways so its just a good little kick.

    The F-95 issues have completely gone away and I beleive this is also aiding the "slow" weight cut.

    Just bought 2 more bottles of AAv2 so that I can bump my doses up to 2, then 3x/day to see max effect.

    Current stats as of this morning: 194.2lb, 15.9%bf(this is total bs and I can tell my scale isn't actually doing any "electical impedance" as it just goes based on weight:height). So that's a total of 24 days, 10lb lost - so I'm looking at about 2.5 lb/wk which is fine at the bf% I was to start. I expect this to slow a bit in about 4 weeks.
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    MP for the preworkout? Whats the benefits? I normally hit the alphamine

    I'm following your protocol... just wanting to understand MP for preWO
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldskool View Post
    MP for the preworkout? Whats the benefits? I normally hit the alphamine I'm following your protocol... just wanting to understand MP for preWO
    I assume similar benefits to many other fat loss supps. There is usually an increased in usefulness when not in the presence of food. The EBF guys can elaborate on this better as I'm really just speculating.
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    Booneman please update your original post or make a reply with the updates on current dosages, times, meals as you did before so everyone can roll in your lessons learned on how you tuned this for best results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    So I haven't been feeling/seeing the results thus far as much as I would like so I'm going to be making some slight modifications in order to try to speed things up a bit. Here's the new layout, changes are bold:

    4:36a - x2 AAv2, 50mg F-95, 2sc Alphamine, 1sc Metabolic Powder - Back to sleep til 4:56a

    5:05a - 20min LISS cardio (treadmill @ 3.5-4mph - my treadmill is a pos and will randomly take off and shoot to 8mph for a min at times so that's always a treat)

    5:50a x2 Recompadrol - Off to work

    6:20a Meal 1: 1/2c Oats, 2tbsp hot sauce, 5 egg whites, 1.5c spinach, x1 CLA, x1 Fish Oil, 1sc Metabolic Powder (27okcal 30c/2f/22p)

    9a x2 Recompadrol

    9:30a Meal 2: 1/2c oats, 2sc No Whey! Pumpkin Pie (1srvg), 1c salad, 1tbsp lt balsamic vinaigrette, x1 CLA, NO Metabolic Powder (310kcal, 53c/8f/37p )

    12p x2 Recompadrol

    12:30p Meal 3: 8oz chicken, 1c salad, 1tbsp salsa, 2 slices whole wheat toast (or 1 med sweet potato), x1 CLA (chicken and toast: 409kcal, 40c/5f/44p)

    2:10p 1sc Alphamine, 25mg F-95, x2 AAv2, 2sc Metabolic Powder

    2:50p Training (MWF - 45-65min, 3-4 sets, 10-15reps, 4-5 exercises per body part; TRS - 20min LISS cardio + 3x3x20 abs + rear delt work; Sun - Accessory Workout - full body)

    4p 1sc whey isolate, 5g creatine monohydrate (166kcal, 30p/2c + creatine cals): workout days only

    6p 4oz chicken, 4oz venison, 2c broccoli, 1tbsp wasabi, 1tbsp soy sauce, x1 CLA, 2sc Metabolic Powder (350kcal, 56p/13c/5f)

    9p 1sc Phase 8 protein, 1c brussels sprouts, 1tbsp wasabi, 1tbsp soy sauce 1, 2sc Metabolic Powder, x1 CLA (260kcal, 33p/26c/3f)
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    Added 6g of citrulline malate to my pre-workout drink (1sc alphamine, 1sc metabolic powder, 1sc pump X3) yesterday. This was my first time using bulk citmal and DAMN. The vascularity I had in my forearms (it was shoulders/legs day) was incredible. Even after doing just squats the vascularity in my arms was amazing. I've seen suggestions to go 9-10g of citmal so i was wondering what you guys think is a good dose from your experience?

    Also, I opened my second tub of alphamine today (fruit punch this time) and damn is that stuff good. I'm torn between the flavors cuz they're so different. Might have to do one am/one pm...

    Going to add in another 25mg of F-95 here soon (bump my pre-workout dose to 50mg for a total of 100mg/day). Thinking maybe next week or so. Also may add a third dose of AAv2 but I'm unsure where exactly it fits into my day... maybe between meal 2 & 3? What about pre-bed? Any thoughts from you guys on pre-bed or middle of the night dosing for something like this?
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    Personally I don't feel the need to go over 6-7g cit mal but I am also much smaller and weigh less. I would say, try 8g Cit mal and see if you really need to go higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Added 6g of citrulline malate to my pre-workout drink (1sc alphamine, 1sc metabolic powder, 1sc pump X3) yesterday. This was my first time using bulk citmal and DAMN. The vascularity I had in my forearms (it was shoulders/legs day) was incredible. Even after doing just squats the vascularity in my arms was amazing. I've seen suggestions to go 9-10g of citmal so i was wondering what you guys think is a good dose from your experience?
    I'd go easy on the CM, 2g is usually enough for me. But heres what examine.com says:

    Citrulline appears to be well-tolerated by rats in doses up to 3g/kg bodyweight.[58][46]

    In humans, 15g citrulline taken acutely does not appear to cause diarrhea or intestinal upset[23] which is notably different than both Ornithine and Arginine that may cause diarrhea at 10g dosages when taken in boluses[73][74] due to limited absorption of these amino acids which then proceed to the colon to cause osmotic diarrhea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdog.tx View Post
    I'd go easy on the CM, 2g is usually enough for me. But heres what examine.com says:

    Citrulline appears to be well-tolerated by rats in doses up to 3g/kg bodyweight.[58][46]

    In humans, 15g citrulline taken acutely does not appear to cause diarrhea or intestinal upset[23] which is notably different than both Ornithine and Arginine that may cause diarrhea at 10g dosages when taken in boluses[73][74] due to limited absorption of these amino acids which then proceed to the colon to cause osmotic diarrhea.

    L-Citrulline is not the same as CitMal. Citmal is usually 1:1 or 2:1 citrulline:malic acid whereas l-citrulline is strictly citrulline. Therefore you would have to double the dose of citmal to get the same effective dose of citrulline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    L-Citrulline is not the same as CitMal. Citmal is usually 1:1 or 2:1 citrulline:malic acid whereas l-citrulline is strictly citrulline. Therefore you would have to double the dose of citmal to get the same effective dose of citrulline.
    Exactly.

    Cit. Mal doses seem to be individualized to achieve the desired effect. Some seem to need more or less. Not sure if body weight is a contributing factor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Exactly. Cit. Mal doses seem to be individualized to achieve the desired effect. Some seem to need more or less. Not sure if body weight is a contributing factor.
    What is SNS's ratio? Thinking of picking up some because my batch from hard rhino sucked dong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post
    hard rhino sucked dong.
    Sounds rough ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Added 6g of citrulline malate to my pre-workout drink (1sc alphamine, 1sc metabolic powder, 1sc pump X3) yesterday. This was my first time using bulk citmal and DAMN. The vascularity I had in my forearms (it was shoulders/legs day) was incredible. Even after doing just squats the vascularity in my arms was amazing. I've seen suggestions to go 9-10g of citmal so i was wondering what you guys think is a good dose from your experience?

    Also, I opened my second tub of alphamine today (fruit punch this time) and damn is that stuff good. I'm torn between the flavors cuz they're so different. Might have to do one am/one pm...

    Going to add in another 25mg of F-95 here soon (bump my pre-workout dose to 50mg for a total of 100mg/day). Thinking maybe next week or so. Also may add a third dose of AAv2 but I'm unsure where exactly it fits into my day... maybe between meal 2 & 3? What about pre-bed? Any thoughts from you guys on pre-bed or middle of the night dosing for something like this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Pre bed!!!
    Ha I like your style
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    Today's pre-workout concoction: 1sc FP Alphamine, 7.5g CitMal, 1sc Pump X3, 2sc Metabolic Powder, 1sc Jack3d Advanced. Should be delicious and have me pretty well revved up and burning some serious fat!


    Planned additions starting Monday (2/3/14):

    Additional 25mg F95 with pre-workout (for a total of 2x50mg = 100mg/day)
    Change evening meal times so that there is at least 90min between my pre-bed shake and sleep (prob eat at like 5 & 8 then bed by 10-10:30)
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    I call this: the fat pump. The perfect fasted pre workout drink.

    1sc amino iv
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    500mg agmatine
    3.3g GMS
    2sc alphamine
    2sc metabolic powder
    7.5g citrulline malate

    Taken with 50mg F95 and x2 AAv2

    Also taking another scoop of amino iv for intra and maybe a third for post if I decide to fast longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
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    I call this: the fat pump. The perfect fasted pre workout drink.

    1sc amino iv
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    500mg agmatine
    3.3g GMS
    2sc alphamine
    2sc metabolic powder
    7.5g citrulline malate

    Taken with 50mg F95 and x2 AAv2

    Also taking another scoop of amino iv for intra and maybe a third for post if I decide to fast longer.
    I smashed back and had 8g aminos pre, 15 intra with 70g carbs, 10 g aminos post. Will have 10g (hica included) every 2 hours till Super Bowl **** feat. However I don't think it'll be too bad to eating wise I'm brining turkey chili.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    I smashed back and had 8g aminos pre, 15 intra with 70g carbs, 10 g aminos post. Will have 10g (hica included) every 2 hours till Super Bowl **** feat. However I don't think it'll be too bad to eating wise I'm brining turkey chili.
    Ya that's similar to my plan. Did a full body workout, a little liss cardio after, post shake with 30g pro/5g creatine. Nothing but taste testing my cooking.

    Made some banana peppers stuffed with chicken, onion, broc, bean sprouts and some low cal onion and spinach dip (onion, turkey bacon, ff cot chz, ff Greek yog, spinach). Prob gonna have some chili and a little pulled pork. Maybe a deviled egg or two.

    Supps like this:
    1.5hr pre meal- 1sc alphamine, 2sc MP, 2 AAv2
    20min pre meal- 1AP, 2recompadrol, 1 CLA
    30min into meal- same as above
    If eating again- same as above (20min pre)

    Pre bed: 2sc MP, 2AAv2
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    Today's pre-workout concoction: 1sc FP Alphamine, 7.5g CitMal, 1sc Pump X3, 2sc Metabolic Powder, 1sc Jack3d Advanced. Should be delicious and have me pretty well revved up and burning some serious fat!
    That CM is going to make you go cray with the jack3d and alphamine, be careful to not blow a gasket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepdog.tx View Post
    That CM is going to make you go cray with the jack3d and alphamine, be careful to not blow a gasket.
    Vascularity was amazing. Can't wait to see how it gets as my bf% drops.

    Next couple days I'm gonna be adding some Beta-Cret 2.0 to my pre workouts (running it as a review on bb). 204mg caffiene/ srv should be fun

    Weighed in yesterday morning at 196.2lb so I gained some weight but I'm definintely looking better so I'm pretty excited. Recomp city in here. Can't wait to see what the next few weeks hold. Week 8 is usually when people can really notice a diff even without taking clothes off so thats my soft "deadline"
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    Updated dosing (as of sunday):

    Added 25mg of F95 to my pre-workout (for a total of 100mg/day)

    Added x2 AAv2 pre-bed on an empty stomach. Last meal is a casein/blend shake and some veggies about 1.5-2hr pre-bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyjd View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Engineer View Post

    What is SNS's ratio? Thinking of picking up some because my batch from hard rhino sucked dong.
    Current batches, as of the last few months, are at a 2:1 ratio...
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post

    Current batches, as of the last few months, are at a 2:1 ratio...
    In almost out of my last tub
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Current batches, as of the last few months, are at a 2:1 ratio...
    Any idea what nutraplanets is? It's unmarked so I assume 1:1
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    So I never thought I'd say this, but: Thank god for first-thing-in-the-morning cardio. Woke up this morning thinking "man, it feels colder then normal in here' (I keep my house pretty cool so mornings are always a bit tough)... Well, I walked past the thermostat and see that it's 55 degrees. Apparently my heating oil ran out in the middle of the night so its gonna be a cold one tonight. Might have to sleep in a parka or on the treadmill ha. Of course, the guy who normally delivers my oil decided to retire and won't help me out either. Dick move. Gonna be a long gym session today just to stay out of the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by booneman77 View Post
    So I never thought I'd say this, but: Thank god for first-thing-in-the-morning cardio. Woke up this morning thinking "man, it feels colder then normal in here' (I keep my house pretty cool so mornings are always a bit tough)... Well, I walked past the thermostat and see that it's 55 degrees. Apparently my heating oil ran out in the middle of the night so its gonna be a cold one tonight. Might have to sleep in a parka or on the treadmill ha. Of course, the guy who normally delivers my oil decided to retire and won't help me out either. Dick move. Gonna be a long gym session today just to stay out of the house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeyjd View Post
    Edenpure space heaters are amazing in open areas <1000sq ft.
    Ya I think I may rent a heater at least for the night as I'll be getting oil delivered tomorrow.
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    Quick update:

    Really starting to notice the body comp changes the last week or so. I can tell everything that I'm doing is really working and the synergy between these supps is amazing. I think in a couple weeks I'm going to throw some ARA into to mix and see how that goes. I can't stress enough how excited I am to be seeing the scale stay almost exactly the same (if not a bit more!) and see the awesome body comp changes too. Proabably gonna try to get some pics up here to celebrate week 5 this sunday. The goal is now to be 15-20lb heavier with the same definition I had a couple years ago (trained 16 weeks for a race) and then to be able to "flexible diet" my way through the summer and stay in better shape while allowing some diet freedom.

    Some thoughts on a potential upcoming stack (looking at potentially 4-6 weeks):
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    Cutting supps: alphamine/dexaprine xr + tt-33/AAv2(don't know if I can NOT include this as its worked so well thus far)/AT2/Burn24

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    Updates (and noodz, as promised):

    Weight - 197.1lb
    bf%- I quit using the scale so I'll have to caliper cuz every time I gain weight the scale bf% goes up and as evidenced by the pics, this is not even remotely the case.
    No issues to speak of as far as bumping any of the supps (AAv2/F95) over the last week or so. Everything is going very smoothly and I'm actually GAINING weight while getting leaner. The only change that I'm making is to my diet. I've been very tired a lot of day in the last week or two and I think it could potentially be too low of calories (I'm at about 1800 most days). I'm going to start small and add in 2 rice cakes PWO on lifting days (35kcal each, 70/day, 4 days/wk - total of 280extra kcal/wk) for some additional kcals and see how that goes.

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    On a side note, I've begun reading the carb backloading book and even though I did a lot of research on this topic in the last year or so, the book is really a worthwhile read. Especially while doing my cardio sessions ha. I may start adopting this practice once I get down to a weight/look I'm happy with as I know what I'm doing now works and don't wanna take a step backwards until I reach my goal.
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    Somebody startin a party cause me thinks I see you carrying six pack? Well starting to anyway. Looking great, particularly noticable improvement in your V taper. Keep it up, keep us posted.
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    Nice work man! Keep it up...things seem to be moving in the right direction.
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    Awesome progress my man. Keep it up!
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