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    Best & Worst of 2013


    What is the best & worst supplement that you have used in 2013?

    Best for me was ArA(X-Gels) without a doubt.
    Worst for me was PreSurge. All it did was gave me explosive diarrhea

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    Stimul8 (And I may be biased, but I'm honest)

    Edit: I won't mention my worst as it doesn't really matter and I'm not in to forum wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iparatroop View Post
    Stimul8 (And I may be biased, but I'm honest)
    Going to agree here as well
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    Too many options...


    Best: AS forkolin-95 in terms of effectiveness,
    my favourite new addition is definitely Select Protein though, quality protein source that tastes phenomenal.

    Worst:
    Anabolic Designs product Ravenous seemed to do nothing but cause GI distress and make me sick with continued use.
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    Bias alert: Best - PF3 by MAN Sports. Un*****ed recovery and lean growth.

    Best non-MAN - Cellucor Cor-fetti protein. Found a recipe for a Cor-fetti protein cake with Cor-fetti icing and it's been a fun breakfast/snack.

    Worst - Jack3d Micro. (2013? Can't remember.) 10 scoops in and I dumped it. Did absolutely nothing for me. In fairness, Jack3d Advanced is a much better product IMO.
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    worst: betaine HCL powder from a smart provider of powders... was labeled as betaine anhydrous. Lets just say taking 3 grams of this stuff on an empty stomach made me feel sick as **** each time until I realized they mislabeled their own product. Still awaiting my refund.

    best: alphamine, reduce xt


    dissapointment but not worst: oxyelite vanilla protein. Taste was very average for a vanilla, not bad, but not great
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    of supps I tired within the last year

    best: high volume
    worst: versa 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Younglifter16 View Post
    worst: betaine HCL powder from a smart provider of powders... was labeled as betaine anhydrous. Lets just say taking 3 grams of this stuff on an empty stomach made me feel sick as **** each time until I realized they mislabeled their own product. Still awaiting my refund.best: alphamine, reduce xtdissapointment but not worst: oxyelite vanilla protein. Taste was very average for a vanilla, not bad, but not great
    I stopped ordering from SP. My last Betaine was over one year expired, and my last THREE orders were all missing products. It's a joke now that mike stopped working with them
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    Best for me is Powershock(3rd year in a row )
    Worst AX's BCAA- Had to dump the tub from the bland taste

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    I can't say which products are the worst because I fear some people will become butt hurt.
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    Best product: PES Select Protein or New Erase Pro
    Best non-PES product: Burn24 or X-gels
    Worst Product: Nature's Best (?) Capsicum...burned a hole through my GI tract
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    Worst Product: Giant Sports Cookies and Creme protein(absolutely disgusting...in fact, I returned it and I have never returned a product)
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I can't say which products are the worst because I fear some people will become butt hurt.
    Come on man! Who cares?
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    Best of 2013: TMG pre workout and Agmatine pre bed; both are staple musts.

    Worst of 2013: Vanillean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    Best of 2013: TMG pre workout and Agmatine pre bed; both are staple musts.

    Worst of 2013: Vanillean
    Some words on vanillean and why you hated it?
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    Best: reduce xt and pump igniter
    -reduce xt works for me every time, no stims either which is a nice addition to any cutting stack
    -pump igniter is by far my favorite pre workout so far- I really liked the agmatine addition to this pre workout

    Worst: DAA and Vanillean
    -probably just me but DAA just caused mood swings and zero difference in performance
    -vanillean I took a whole bottle while dieting and noticed no results beyond what would be ecpectes for normal dieting/training however I will say raspberry ketone type products don't do it for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    Best of 2013: TMG pre workout and Agmatine pre bed; both are staple musts.

    Worst of 2013: Vanillean
    What does agmatine do pre bed?

    Also yeh what did you notice on vanillean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by them View Post
    What does agmatine do pre bed? Also yeh what did you notice on vanillean?
    It may act as a GDA, which can potentially increase the depth of ones sleep through increased GH pulse during the night.
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    Best - High Volume, Select Protein

    Worst - bulk DAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Some words on vanillean and why you hated it?
    Quote Originally Posted by them View Post
    What does agmatine do pre bed?

    Also yeh what did you notice on vanillean?
    The only effect I noticed from the vanillean was a warmer body the first few times pre exercise, not really thermogenic just warmth. This effect subsided and through 2 bottles I didn't notice increased fat loss or body comp effects. The day after I bought it Cooper made a post on its under dosed and relatively ineffective ingredients, well those comments were true.

    For body composition TMG at 3g has been special for me, very underrated. Note though it has been continuous use.

    I take Agmatine and LCLT pre bed and my sleep is much deeper with them, leading to a greater GH release. I wake up refreshed and my body always requires a nice stretch which I have not had recently, I also feel taller after continuous use; albeit I am 23 and still probably growing. In saying that, I am sure agmatine has played a role in assisting growth with the improved sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I stopped ordering from SP. My last Betaine was over one year expired, and my last THREE orders were all missing products. It's a joke now that mike stopped working with them
    they have really gone down hill, was wondering why but now it makes sense, got a welcome back offer while ago sent to my email but looking at their facebook it seems everything i went through with them with my last orders is happening with others aswell now..note to international byers= avoid them like plague.
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    Just wondering, when did Mike leave?. My last or from them I purchased MCC on sale. They are all pretty close to expiration, I emailed them with questions but never got a response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Just wondering, when did Mike leave?. My last or from them I purchased MCC on sale. They are all pretty close to expiration, I emailed them with questions but never got a response.
    He still owns it but he's had someone else running it for over a year now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    i take Agmatine and LCLT pre bed and my sleep is much deeper with them, leading to a greater GH release. I wake up refreshed and my body always requires a nice stretch which I have not had recently, I also feel taller after continuous use
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quadzilla99 View Post
    Lolwut
    Take it for what it's worth, as I said I'm still probably growing regardless of the supplementation...no need to disregard the rest of my post....
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    Thanks for your post Phil,

    Are you able to locate Coopers post regarding the underdosing, I am curious which ingredients he thinks are. Cheers

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophy View Post
    The only effect I noticed from the vanillean was a warmer body the first few times pre exercise, not really thermogenic just warmth. This effect subsided and through 2 bottles I didn't notice increased fat loss or body comp effects. The day after I bought it Cooper made a post on its under dosed and relatively ineffective ingredients, well those comments were true.

    For body composition TMG at 3g has been special for me, very underrated. Note though it has been continuous use.

    I take Agmatine and LCLT pre bed and my sleep is much deeper with them, leading to a greater GH release. I wake up refreshed and my body always requires a nice stretch which I have not had recently, I also feel taller after continuous use; albeit I am 23 and still probably growing. In saying that I am sure agmatine has played a role in assisting growth with the improved sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by them View Post
    Thanks for your post Phil,

    Are you able to locate Coopers post regarding the underdosing, I am curious which ingredients he thinks are. Cheers
    No problem; I think it was this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loudy Rowdy View Post
    for 2013...

    Best: Potassium Nitrate

    Worst:....rather not say....
    What about non iforce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post
    What about non iforce?
    Is there such a thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piston Honda View Post
    Is there such a thing?
    Loudy and the iForce reps do a pretty good job staying unbiased. What you're thinking of is...THE MINIONS
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post

    Loudy and the iForce reps do a pretty good job staying unbiased. What you're thinking of is...THE MINIONS
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    didn't really try many new supplements this year, tropinol xp really impressed me though

    as for worst: alphamine and dnp x2...at least dnp x2 worked but made me feel like death...alphamine was just a waste
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