Need Help with Memory

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  1. I just found a product called galantamind by life enhancement. Do you know if they're any good and if the 4 mg capsule taken 1 to 3 times a day (as they direct) is okay?


  2. Go with smartpowders, LEF is way too expensive
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Very strong opposition to prolonged use of an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. Virtually all the data would support my notion
    In English at a 6th grade level, are you saying do not take Focus XT daily for more than 6 weeks? I have been taking this stuff daily for a while. I thought you stated a while back the Hup A needs to be ingested consistently for a period of time to obtain full beneficial effects. How much Hup A in a dose of Focus
    XT?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    In English at a 6th grade level, are you saying do not take Focus XT daily for more than 6 weeks? I have been taking this stuff daily for a while. I thought you stated a while back the Hup A needs to be ingested consistently for a period of time to obtain full beneficial effects. How much Hup A in a dose of Focus
    XT?
    I said Hup A, not focus xt. The doses we're talking are quite different

  5. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I said Hup A, not focus xt. The doses we're talking are quite different
    Thanks, but back to question. Is there something in Focus XT that should not be ingested daily besides caffeine? Is Hup A safe to ingest daily at recommended doses? If not how long should one take Hup A. Was the statement about not taking an anticholinexxxx inhibitor for more than 6 weeks directed at Focus XT or any ingredients in Focus XT. Thanks in advance. Just want to make sure morning jolt from Focus XT is not bad for me over the long term.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Go with smartpowders, LEF is way too expensive
    Okay. Thank you.

  7. I just want to say that the people on this site are awesome and thank you very much for the helpful advice. It's nice to finally have some hope for maybe fixing this issue. Since I've already bought the Huperzine A, I'll probably start with using that for just the recommended four weeks. After that I'll try galantamine. Thanks again.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    The fact that you don't remember your childhood is a little disconcerting; short term is more understandable as that is more electrical in nature however long term memory is actually stored. I would advise firstly seeking a specialist about this.
    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    It's definately pretty annoying, that's for sure. I often get a hard time from my brothers when they're discussing something from when we were kids and I usually don't remember what they're talking about. I did ask both of my family physicians (changed to a new one last year) about seeing a specialist but they felt that wasn't necessary and that zoloft should fix my problem over time. Kept saying that even after almost a year of taking it and no improvement; unless they considered worse brain fog as an improvement.
    I do know how well the physicians you see do in school but they telling you zoloft fixing the problem on no recollect of childhood I think you will do well to see a specialist my friend.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by 996ttelise View Post
    Thanks, but back to question. Is there something in Focus XT that should not be ingested daily besides caffeine? Is Hup A safe to ingest daily at recommended doses? If not how long should one take Hup A. Was the statement about not taking an anticholinexxxx inhibitor for more than 6 weeks directed at Focus XT or any ingredients in Focus XT. Thanks in advance. Just want to make sure morning jolt from Focus XT is not bad for me over the long term.
    You'll be fine. Like with any supplement, you should cycle off eventually, so I would cycle off of Focus XT after 3 months for a month off.
    Olympus Labs

  10. Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    I just want to say that the people on this site are awesome and thank you very much for the helpful advice. It's nice to finally have some hope for maybe fixing this issue. Since I've already bought the Huperzine A, I'll probably start with using that for just the recommended four weeks. After that I'll try galantamine. Thanks again.
    Good luck and keep us updated on you progress.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Touey View Post
    I do know how well the physicians you see do in school but they telling you zoloft fixing the problem on no recollect of childhood I think you will do well to see a specialist my friend.
    Yeah, you're right. I'm going to start with the huperzine (and later galantamine) but I think I'll also be a little proactive and try to find another doctor (probably a neurologist or something) to see about this. That way I'm at least doing something about it while trying to find a doctor that might help more than my current one.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by koi1214 View Post
    Good luck and keep us updated on you progress.
    Thank you. Hopefully I'll be updating this thread sometime in the future with the amazing progress I've made (either with the help of huperzine/galantamine or after seeing a specialist).

  13. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    There was a study with adolescents or people with add using it for 12 I believe.
    This is not the one I was looking for but this one was for longer periods as well:
    http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/nct00083590

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  14. This one was for 4 weeks at 200mcg on middle school student:

    In 1999, Chinese researchers found, in a study designed to determine the efficacy of HuperzineA on memory and learning in adolescents, that similar results were observed to trila swith adults. They selected 34 matched pairs of apparently normal junior middle school students whose only significant complaints were of poor memory and difficulty in learning. The pairing was done in terms of age, sex, memory quotient, and overall psychological health, to ensure that comparisons would be meaningful. Using these criteria, the researchers found no statistically significant baseline differences between the students in the two groups, one of which was to be treated with HuperzineA, the other to receive a placebo. In a double-blind trial, one member of each pair, chosen randomly, was given 100 micrograms of synthetic HupA twice daily for four weeks, while the other member received the placebo. The students' memory quotients were measured before and after the trial, and their academic performance in their Chinese, English, and mathematics lessons was monitored as well. At the end of the study, the HuperzineA group scored significantly better than the control group on standard memory tests described as "accumulation," "recognition," "reproduction," "association," "tactual [tactile] memory," and "number of recitation," but not on tests of "picture memory" or "understanding." They had also done significantly better in their Chinese and English lessons, but not in math. No side effects of any kind were noted (Xu SS, Cai ZY, Qu ZW, Yang RM, Cai YL, Wang GQ, Su XQ, Zhong XS, Cheng RY, Xu WA, Li JX, Feng B. Huperzine-A in capsules and tablets for treating patients with Alzheimer's disease. Acta Pharmacol Sin 1999 Jun;20(6):486-90).

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  15. Some people just don't have a great memory. Some people also sweat more than other people. You seem to be trying to fix something that isn't broken, what's worse is your seeking a fix to a medical or mental problem with supplements and asking advice on a bodybuilding/fitness/supplement message board. I'm not trying to sound harsh or mean. To me it sounds like this is not really a problem with your memory but your perception, but take my advice with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless strange on the internet after-all. Your doctor prescribed Zoloft I'm guessing because your worried about your memory, when their is no need to actually worry about it. You're self fulfilling your problem by constantly worrying about it-causing it.

    Once again, take my "advice" with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless stranger on the internet on a fitness/supplement/bodybuilding/power-lifting message board.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    This one was for 4 weeks at 200mcg on middle school student:

    In 1999, Chinese researchers found, in a study designed to determine the efficacy of HuperzineA on memory and learning in adolescents, that similar results were observed to trila swith adults. They selected 34 matched pairs of apparently normal junior middle school students whose only significant complaints were of poor memory and difficulty in learning. The pairing was done in terms of age, sex, memory quotient, and overall psychological health, to ensure that comparisons would be meaningful. Using these criteria, the researchers found no statistically significant baseline differences between the students in the two groups, one of which was to be treated with HuperzineA, the other to receive a placebo. In a double-blind trial, one member of each pair, chosen randomly, was given 100 micrograms of synthetic HupA twice daily for four weeks, while the other member received the placebo. The students' memory quotients were measured before and after the trial, and their academic performance in their Chinese, English, and mathematics lessons was monitored as well. At the end of the study, the HuperzineA group scored significantly better than the control group on standard memory tests described as "accumulation," "recognition," "reproduction," "association," "tactual [tactile] memory," and "number of recitation," but not on tests of "picture memory" or "understanding." They had also done significantly better in their Chinese and English lessons, but not in math. No side effects of any kind were noted (Xu SS, Cai ZY, Qu ZW, Yang RM, Cai YL, Wang GQ, Su XQ, Zhong XS, Cheng RY, Xu WA, Li JX, Feng B. Huperzine-A in capsules and tablets for treating patients with Alzheimer's disease. Acta Pharmacol Sin 1999 Jun;20(6):486-90).
    I'll definitely have to take a closer look later at the studies you provided. Thank you.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Some people just don't have a great memory. Some people also sweat more than other people. You seem to be trying to fix something that isn't broken, what's worse is your seeking a fix to a medical or mental problem with supplements and asking advice on a bodybuilding/fitness/supplement message board. I'm not trying to sound harsh or mean. To me it sounds like this is not really a problem with your memory but your perception, but take my advice with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless strange on the internet after-all. Your doctor prescribed Zoloft I'm guessing because your worried about your memory, when their is no need to actually worry about it. You're self fulfilling your problem by constantly worrying about it-causing it.

    Once again, take my "advice" with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless stranger on the internet on a fitness/supplement/bodybuilding/power-lifting message board.
    I hear what you're saying and agree with you to an extent. I also don't think your comment sounds a bit harsh or mean (just helpful like everyone has been so far...which I appreciate). Honestly, I can't really dispute what you're saying because I don't know or remember what my memory was like when I was younger. However, I do have comments from my family to go by. Every since I moved back in town five years ago (lived another state for more than ten years after college) the've been commenting on how bad my memory is now and that it never used to be like that. Besides that, all I have to go by is my grades in school (was told I had a 3.9 GPA in HS and 3.5 in college). I would think that those grades and an engineering degree would indicate that my memory was much better at one time. Otherwise I figure my grades would have suffered...maybe I'm wrong in assuming that. So, like I said, I really can't dispute what you're saying. I just have to trust the perception of my family and other information from my past.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    I'll definitely have to take a closer look later at the studies you provided. Thank you.
    That stud is one of the reasons I recommended dosing 200 mcg a day. At doses >400 mcg, people begin to see rather unpleasant side effects. Like others have stated, be sure to eventually cycle off of the Huperzine A.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    It's definately pretty annoying, that's for sure. I often get a hard time from my brothers when they're discussing something from when we were kids and I usually don't remember what they're talking about. I did ask both of my family physicians (changed to a new one last year) about seeing a specialist but they felt that wasn't necessary and that zoloft should fix my problem over time. Kept saying that even after almost a year of taking it and no improvement; unless they considered worse brain fog as an improvement.

    Focus xt looks really good but I don't like not knowing how much is in it. Especially the huperzine content if that has the best chance of helping. So, I just ordered that same brand of huperzine capsules. I don't suppose you know an approximate range of the huperzine content in focus xt (maybe just based on subjective feel)?
    You can always buy Alcar, Choline and Huperzine a from the same source (SNS) and mix it up yourself. I will say however that Hup A may not be your best option as we are not in a position to diagnose over the interwebs (or even in real life lol) but are simply providing one solution to mask the problem (if it even helps is yet to be seen).

    If it is so notable that people around you notice, then see a specialist (not just a GP) to determine the best course of action as it is somewhat apparent that it troubles you.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    That stud is one of the reasons I recommended dosing 200 mcg a day. At doses >400 mcg, people begin to see rather unpleasant side effects. Like others have stated, be sure to eventually cycle off of the Huperzine A.
    Just out of curiousity, what are your thoughts on huperzine vs galantamine? Looking at the price of galantamine, I'm curious as to whether it works so much better as to warrant the much higher cost.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    You can always buy Alcar, Choline and Huperzine a from the same source (SNS) and mix it up yourself. I will say however that Hup A may not be your best option as we are not in a position to diagnose over the interwebs (or even in real life lol) but are simply providing one solution to mask the problem (if it even helps is yet to be seen).

    If it is so notable that people around you notice, then see a specialist (not just a GP) to determine the best course of action as it is somewhat apparent that it troubles you.
    Yeah, I think I'll see my GP after the holidays and see if I can get him to at least recommend a specialist. In the meantime, I'll try the huperzine I bought to see if it at least helps me focus during a very busy couple weeks at work.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    What's considered prolonged use? Does dosage factor in at all (i.e. could a lower dosage be taken daily)? Would a few months be okay or are there better supplement options?
    Cycles of 2-4 weeks then break for as long as you were on.

    Here is a great overview of supplements and memory. I find this site pretty reputable, and they cite the studies they use.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Just out of curiousity, what are your thoughts on huperzine vs galantamine? Looking at the price of galantamine, I'm curious as to whether it works so much better as to warrant the much higher cost.
    Galantamine is more effective and is better overall, but I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend it to a beginner. I think you should try Huperzine A, and only use Galantamine if you don't see the effects you're looking for. If you do use Galantamine, use 8-16 mg a day.
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  24. How about try asking your doctor for Provigil instead.

    I can't post a link, but just google it. It's more of an intelligence/productivity enhancer, so memory should be improved too.

  25. Yeah, just self diagnose and ask you doctor for a drug of your choosing. That's the ticket!. Drugs fix everything, right?
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