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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    This one was for 4 weeks at 200mcg on middle school student:

    In 1999, Chinese researchers found, in a study designed to determine the efficacy of HuperzineA on memory and learning in adolescents, that similar results were observed to trila swith adults. They selected 34 matched pairs of apparently normal junior middle school students whose only significant complaints were of poor memory and difficulty in learning. The pairing was done in terms of age, sex, memory quotient, and overall psychological health, to ensure that comparisons would be meaningful. Using these criteria, the researchers found no statistically significant baseline differences between the students in the two groups, one of which was to be treated with HuperzineA, the other to receive a placebo. In a double-blind trial, one member of each pair, chosen randomly, was given 100 micrograms of synthetic HupA twice daily for four weeks, while the other member received the placebo. The students' memory quotients were measured before and after the trial, and their academic performance in their Chinese, English, and mathematics lessons was monitored as well. At the end of the study, the HuperzineA group scored significantly better than the control group on standard memory tests described as "accumulation," "recognition," "reproduction," "association," "tactual [tactile] memory," and "number of recitation," but not on tests of "picture memory" or "understanding." They had also done significantly better in their Chinese and English lessons, but not in math. No side effects of any kind were noted (Xu SS, Cai ZY, Qu ZW, Yang RM, Cai YL, Wang GQ, Su XQ, Zhong XS, Cheng RY, Xu WA, Li JX, Feng B. Huperzine-A in capsules and tablets for treating patients with Alzheimer's disease. Acta Pharmacol Sin 1999 Jun;20(6):486-90).
    I'll definitely have to take a closer look later at the studies you provided. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Some people just don't have a great memory. Some people also sweat more than other people. You seem to be trying to fix something that isn't broken, what's worse is your seeking a fix to a medical or mental problem with supplements and asking advice on a bodybuilding/fitness/supplement message board. I'm not trying to sound harsh or mean. To me it sounds like this is not really a problem with your memory but your perception, but take my advice with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless strange on the internet after-all. Your doctor prescribed Zoloft I'm guessing because your worried about your memory, when their is no need to actually worry about it. You're self fulfilling your problem by constantly worrying about it-causing it.

    Once again, take my "advice" with a grain of salt because I'm just some nameless stranger on the internet on a fitness/supplement/bodybuilding/power-lifting message board.
    I hear what you're saying and agree with you to an extent. I also don't think your comment sounds a bit harsh or mean (just helpful like everyone has been so far...which I appreciate). Honestly, I can't really dispute what you're saying because I don't know or remember what my memory was like when I was younger. However, I do have comments from my family to go by. Every since I moved back in town five years ago (lived another state for more than ten years after college) the've been commenting on how bad my memory is now and that it never used to be like that. Besides that, all I have to go by is my grades in school (was told I had a 3.9 GPA in HS and 3.5 in college). I would think that those grades and an engineering degree would indicate that my memory was much better at one time. Otherwise I figure my grades would have suffered...maybe I'm wrong in assuming that. So, like I said, I really can't dispute what you're saying. I just have to trust the perception of my family and other information from my past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    I'll definitely have to take a closer look later at the studies you provided. Thank you.
    That stud is one of the reasons I recommended dosing 200 mcg a day. At doses >400 mcg, people begin to see rather unpleasant side effects. Like others have stated, be sure to eventually cycle off of the Huperzine A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    It's definately pretty annoying, that's for sure. I often get a hard time from my brothers when they're discussing something from when we were kids and I usually don't remember what they're talking about. I did ask both of my family physicians (changed to a new one last year) about seeing a specialist but they felt that wasn't necessary and that zoloft should fix my problem over time. Kept saying that even after almost a year of taking it and no improvement; unless they considered worse brain fog as an improvement.

    Focus xt looks really good but I don't like not knowing how much is in it. Especially the huperzine content if that has the best chance of helping. So, I just ordered that same brand of huperzine capsules. I don't suppose you know an approximate range of the huperzine content in focus xt (maybe just based on subjective feel)?
    You can always buy Alcar, Choline and Huperzine a from the same source (SNS) and mix it up yourself. I will say however that Hup A may not be your best option as we are not in a position to diagnose over the interwebs (or even in real life lol) but are simply providing one solution to mask the problem (if it even helps is yet to be seen).

    If it is so notable that people around you notice, then see a specialist (not just a GP) to determine the best course of action as it is somewhat apparent that it troubles you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    That stud is one of the reasons I recommended dosing 200 mcg a day. At doses >400 mcg, people begin to see rather unpleasant side effects. Like others have stated, be sure to eventually cycle off of the Huperzine A.
    Just out of curiousity, what are your thoughts on huperzine vs galantamine? Looking at the price of galantamine, I'm curious as to whether it works so much better as to warrant the much higher cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    You can always buy Alcar, Choline and Huperzine a from the same source (SNS) and mix it up yourself. I will say however that Hup A may not be your best option as we are not in a position to diagnose over the interwebs (or even in real life lol) but are simply providing one solution to mask the problem (if it even helps is yet to be seen).

    If it is so notable that people around you notice, then see a specialist (not just a GP) to determine the best course of action as it is somewhat apparent that it troubles you.
    Yeah, I think I'll see my GP after the holidays and see if I can get him to at least recommend a specialist. In the meantime, I'll try the huperzine I bought to see if it at least helps me focus during a very busy couple weeks at work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    What's considered prolonged use? Does dosage factor in at all (i.e. could a lower dosage be taken daily)? Would a few months be okay or are there better supplement options?
    Cycles of 2-4 weeks then break for as long as you were on.

    Here is a great overview of supplements and memory. I find this site pretty reputable, and they cite the studies they use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Just out of curiousity, what are your thoughts on huperzine vs galantamine? Looking at the price of galantamine, I'm curious as to whether it works so much better as to warrant the much higher cost.
    Galantamine is more effective and is better overall, but I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend it to a beginner. I think you should try Huperzine A, and only use Galantamine if you don't see the effects you're looking for. If you do use Galantamine, use 8-16 mg a day.
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    How about try asking your doctor for Provigil instead.

    I can't post a link, but just google it. It's more of an intelligence/productivity enhancer, so memory should be improved too.
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    Yeah, just self diagnose and ask you doctor for a drug of your choosing. That's the ticket!. Drugs fix everything, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Simplemass View Post
    How about try asking your doctor for Provigil instead.

    I can't post a link, but just google it. It's more of an intelligence/productivity enhancer, so memory should be improved too.
    seeking the guidance of a qualified medical provider tends to be frowned upon on this forum, as you will learn

    not a bad idea you have imo - just odd to go straight for drugs on a supplement forum

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Yeah, just self diagnose and ask you doctor for a drug of your choosing. That's the ticket!. Drugs fix everything, right?
    isn't that what this whole thread has been seeking/advising to begin with?
    self-diagnose/treatment via "unproven" supps?

    I had a relevant and pertinent point to bring up, but I have forgotten what it was....
    pass me the latest supp recommendation pleez
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    First time poster, long time lurker. There seems to be many really smart people on here and I could definitely use some of that knowledge. I've had bad memory issues for as long as I remember (yes, I get the irony of that statement). It's so bad that I often forget my coworkers names (been working with them for over 10 years), can't remember my wife's phone number, don't remember anything from my childhood, etc. I also walk around everyday with my mind in a fog. I've seen doctors about this but all they keep doing is prescribing me zoloft (or another antidepressent). They claim my issues are due to excessive anxiety. However, their treatment only makes things worse. Are there any supplements that I can safetly take to help with this? I'm on a pretty limited budget and would like to limit the cost of anything to maybe no more than $50/month.
    I would post something but you'd forget....jks!

    Something as simple as alcar+green tea+a form of choline could be your sweet spot as with me.

    Those who opt for huperzine a should be careful and watch the dosage.

    Alcar,choline,fish oil,green tea can all be taken long term. Huperzine a however I don't believe can.
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    Simple advice, but I would also take a good look at your diet and the quality of food you're consuming. This could have a profound effect on the 'brain fog' you mentioned.

    If you drink coffee, dump any instant or poor quality beans and look into Bulletproof coffee... that stuff will have you firing on all cylinders pretty quickly

    Perhaps get more good fats into your diet and like I said, make sure you're eating the highest quality food possible! I can't stress this enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyKH3LL View Post
    Simple advice, but I would also take a good look at your diet and the quality of food you're consuming..
    THIS

    could it really be this simple, a trite matter of ppl's refusal to CHANGE their dietary discourse, that brings about the mass majority of issues that everyone wants to use SUPPLEMENTS to correct?

    hmmm..enquiring minds want to know
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    Sounds like low-T. Brain fog, memory issues etc.
    Have your doc check your testosterone level (hormone panel).
    Search the web as well there is a lot on the subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sysadmn View Post
    Cycles of 2-4 weeks then break for as long as you were on.

    Here is a great overview of supplements and memory. I find this site pretty reputable, and they cite the studies they use.
    Great site. Thank you for the link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Galantamine is more effective and is better overall, but I'm not entirely sure I'd recommend it to a beginner. I think you should try Huperzine A, and only use Galantamine if you don't see the effects you're looking for. If you do use Galantamine, use 8-16 mg a day.
    Thank you. I appreciate you giving me your thoughts on the matter and providing your dosage recommendation for galantamine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyrobatt View Post
    I would post something but you'd forget....jks!

    Something as simple as alcar+green tea+a form of choline could be your sweet spot as with me.

    Those who opt for huperzine a should be careful and watch the dosage.

    Alcar,choline,fish oil,green tea can all be taken long term. Huperzine a however I don't believe can.
    Green tea is definately a daily staple. I've been thinking about adding alcar with maybe a few other items like rhodiola and/or green tea extract (maybe other supplement additions...still thinking about this one and open to any suggestions) to help me wake up in the mornings. I don't like caffeine because it makes me too anxious and jittery. I take about 2g of fish oil each day but I'll probably increase that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyKH3LL View Post
    Simple advice, but I would also take a good look at your diet and the quality of food you're consuming. This could have a profound effect on the 'brain fog' you mentioned.

    If you drink coffee, dump any instant or poor quality beans and look into Bulletproof coffee... that stuff will have you firing on all cylinders pretty quickly

    Perhaps get more good fats into your diet and like I said, make sure you're eating the highest quality food possible! I can't stress this enough.
    Very good point. I've always had a good diet but still felt there was room for improvement. Recently started the paleo diet. Will see if that helps.

    Not a fan of coffee (or really anything with caffeine) but have read good things about bulletproof coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMCROM View Post
    Sounds like low-T. Brain fog, memory issues etc.
    Have your doc check your testosterone level (hormone panel).
    Search the web as well there is a lot on the subject.
    Not really familiar with anything on low T. Will have to read up on that. Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Thank you. I appreciate you giving me your thoughts on the matter and providing your dosage recommendation for galantamine.
    Of course, any time. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask, I'm always around to help out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Very good point. I've always had a good diet but still felt there was room for improvement. Recently started the paleo diet. Will see if that helps.

    Not a fan of coffee (or really anything with caffeine) but have read good things about bulletproof coffee.
    I swear by it - I just feel like I have laser-like focus, energy through the roof and a mental clarity I've never experienced before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    THIS

    could it really be this simple, a trite matter of ppl's refusal to CHANGE their dietary discourse, that brings about the mass majority of issues that everyone wants to use SUPPLEMENTS to correct?

    hmmm..enquiring minds want to know
    Op's situation sounds more than a diet related issue though. Unless he is eating zero fats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Op's situation sounds more than a diet related issue though. Unless he is eating zero fats.
    Absolutely, but while looking at supplements it's a good time and place to go back and reassess the quality of what you're putting in your mouth.

    And EAT MORE FATS! :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyKH3LL View Post

    Absolutely, but while looking at supplements it's a good time and place to go back and reassess the quality of what you're putting in your mouth.

    And EAT MORE FATS! :P
    Oh I agree, wasnt knocking the advice at all, just adding my .2 cents
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    Oh I agree, wasnt knocking the advice at all, just adding my .2 cents
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Of course, any time. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask, I'm always around to help out.
    Do you know of anything that can be taken with galantamine to offset the tired feeling it seems to cause (even after just a few days at 8 mg per day)? Preferably little to no caffeine because it makes me jittery and anxious. I'm assuming I should avoid anything with choline? Would alcar as the base of a stack be okay? Another cheap/basic option I'm considering is just l-theanine and caffeine (figured the theanine would offset the negative effects of the caffeine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Op's situation sounds more than a diet related issue though. Unless he is eating zero fats.
    I was making a general generic statement, that encompasses a great majority of "supplement users" and all kinds of issues, not necessarily specifically OP situation and exact issue

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Oh I agree, wasnt knocking the advice at all, just adding my .2 cents
    is that .2 = 1/5th of 1 cent, or are you really trying to say .02 which would be more conducive of the saying "2 cents"?
    .2 of a cent would seem to be fairly minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Do you know of anything that can be taken with galantamine to offset the tired feeling it seems to cause (even after just a few days at 8 mg per day)? Preferably little to no caffeine because it makes me jittery and anxious. I'm assuming I should avoid anything with choline? Would alcar as the base of a stack be okay? Another cheap/basic option I'm considering is just l-theanine and caffeine (figured the theanine would offset the negative effects of the caffeine).
    I would say just try it out first and see how it goes. Choline isn't necessarily going to make you tired either, depends on your dosage. ALCAR is certainly fine, and you can definitely combine theanine and caffeine, caffeine is one of the most effective ingredients out there. Just low dose the caffeine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
    I was making a general generic statement, that encompasses a great majority of "supplement users" and all kinds of issues, not necessarily specifically OP situation and exact issue

    is that .2 = 1/5th of 1 cent, or are you really trying to say .02 which would be more conducive of the saying "2 cents"?
    .2 of a cent would seem to be fairly minute

    enquiring minds wish to know the answer to this one as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    I would say just try it out first and see how it goes. Choline isn't necessarily going to make you tired either, depends on your dosage. ALCAR is certainly fine, and you can definitely combine theanine and caffeine, caffeine is one of the most effective ingredients out there. Just low dose the caffeine.
    I'm beginning to think that galantamine might not be for me. I've been taking it for about a week at just 8 mg per day and I've never been so tired. I'm actually falling asleep in the middle of the day. That never happens. Do you or anyone else know if this is a common side effect or if it might decrease with time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    I'm beginning to think that galantamine might not be for me. I've been taking it for about a week at just 8 mg per day and I've never been so tired. I'm actually falling asleep in the middle of the day. That never happens. Do you or anyone else know if this is a common side effect or if it might decrease with time?
    Maybe try some ALCAR but maybe it would be best to see what you doctor says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    I would say just try it out first and see how it goes. Choline isn't necessarily going to make you tired either, depends on your dosage. ALCAR is certainly fine, and you can definitely combine theanine and caffeine, caffeine is one of the most effective ingredients out there. Just low dose the caffeine.
    Please ignore my previous question. My wife has asked that I stop using the galantamine. Besides being tired all day, apparently I've also been in a very poor mood while taking it (she said I've been very short tempered). Just in case both are somehow related to me taking galantamine (not saying it is), I'm going to stop taking it.

    So, until I can get in to see a doctor, I might just take focus xt since I'm starting to think some of my memory issues are just due to my inability to stay focused on anything (my mind often wanders a lot). Started to think this might be part of the problem because even after just a week I noticed my ability to focus on things improving and as a result I was rememering everday details (like why I walked into a room) better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David_Sndrs39 View Post
    Please ignore my previous question. My wife has asked that I stop using the galantamine. Besides being tired all day, apparently I've also been in a very poor mood while taking it (she said I've been very short tempered). Just in case both are somehow related to me taking galantamine (not saying it is), I'm going to stop taking it.

    So, until I can get in to see a doctor, I might just take focus xt since I'm starting to think some of my memory issues are just due to my inability to stay focused on anything (my mind often wanders a lot). Started to think this might be part of the problem because even after just a week I noticed my ability to focus on things improving and as a result I was rememering everday details (like why I walked into a room) better.
    Sorry to hear that, but yeah, you're better off cutting it out and hoping for the best. Attention (which is focus) is one of the most important aspects of memory and memory consolidation, so you are on the right track. I hope the Focus XT helps you out. Let us know what your doctor says.
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    Anyone know of a good source for purchasing galantamine? Recently had some problems with purchases through SP and need a new source.
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    What do you guys think of TULIP by falco? Anyone tried this out?

    I am studying for my MCAT, Anyone know any good stacks to get to study for that. I have a really hard time with short term and long term memory. I am currently on CILTEP but thats not really having a big noticeable effect on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicM20 View Post
    What do you guys think of TULIP by falco? Anyone tried this out?I am studying for my MCAT, Anyone know any good stacks to get to study for that. I have a really hard time with short term and long term memory. I am currently on CILTEP but thats not really having a big noticeable effect on me.
    Post a link to these profiles. Personally when I did my MCATs years ago, I did Focus XT+ ALCAR.
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    How good did Focusxt help you on the mcat? What benefits did it give you and how long till you got those benefits? I'm having lots of difficulty with the verbal reasoning. Would that help with that portion? A lot of the mcat deals with short term reasoning especially the verbal and bio sections, so is that something that would help with short term and working memory?
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    I totally forgot about this memory thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicM20 View Post
    How good did Focusxt help you on the mcat? What benefits did it give you and how long till you got those benefits? I'm having lots of difficulty with the verbal reasoning. Would that help with that portion? A lot of the mcat deals with short term reasoning especially the verbal and bio sections, so is that something that would help with short term and working memory?
    I replied to you in the other thread
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