Grape Seed Extract vs Resveratrol

[lupis122]

Will supplemental Grape Seed Extract have a negative impact similar to resveratrol if taken post-workout? What is the main difference between the two?

 

[criticalbench]

What is the neg impact? im curious.

 

[RegisterJr]

In for the info.

 

[Touey]

What is the neg impact? im curious.

resveratrol negate much the positive influence benefit for exercise

 

[mr.cooper69]

Will supplemental Grape Seed Extract have a negative impact similar to resveratrol if taken post-workout? What is the main difference between the two?

GSE is a significantly less potent antioxidant, but why dose it postworkout anyway?

 

[Touey]

one I find interesting the resveratrol study results contradicted in animal study so we must always be very mindful to not putting stock overmuch on these animal study

 

[lupis122]

I am just getting back to the gym after a long break, and read a study that it can speed up muscle damaged which I am currently feeling a lot of. Is there a better time to take it?

 

[Synapsin]

Oral resveratrol is worthless.

 

[criticalbench]

Oral resveratrol is worthless.

I no people inject this with far better results.


Mike

 

[xhrr]

Anecdotally for what it is worth I'm taking Formasurge which I love even though this batch has been **** and barely rubs in some days and I have two bottles of Stoked I found laying around that I'm making my way through dosing all 4 pills pre. So I'm taking in a fairly high amount of resveratrol around my workout and I have been making progress at a much higher rate lately so to say it completely negates all beneficial adaptations gained via exercise in my experience is untrue. Obviously there are other factors at play here but I think people are really over exaggerating the negative effects of resv. For example I've gained 25 lbs in some cases on my max lifts and I am already a trained lifter in ~1.5 months all while on a high dose of resv.

 

[AnabolicHolic]

I use the TD R-spray ...should be good on absorption and i use it at night after work.

 

[mr.cooper69]

Anecdotally for what it is worth I'm taking Formasurge which I love even though this batch has been **** and barely rubs in some days and I have two bottles of Stoked I found laying around that I'm making my way through dosing all 4 pills pre. So I'm taking in a fairly high amount of resveratrol around my workout and I have been making progress at a much higher rate lately so to say it completely negates all beneficial adaptations gained via exercise in my experience is untrue. Obviously there are other factors at play here but I think people are really over exaggerating the negative effects of resv. For example I've gained 25 lbs in some cases on my max lifts and I am already a trained lifter in ~1.5 months all while on a high dose of resv.

You are confused. Adaptations to exercise and ergogenesis are not synonymous. In fact, many ergogens are known to blunt adaptations to exercise while improving performance acutely

 

[bioman]

Wow. I, and probably a lot of us, had assumed they are synonymous. Perhaps define for us what "adaption(s) to excercise" really are versus ergogenisis.

 

[bechsgaard]

Orally, grape seed Inject, reversatrol

 

[mr.cooper69]

Wow. I, and probably a lot of us, had assumed they are synonymous. Perhaps define for us what "adaption(s) to excercise" really are versus ergogenisis.

Read page 2: http://jp.physoc.org/content/early/2013/07/19/jphysiol.2013.258061.full.pdf

 

[Touey]

You know we have to wonder on dabbling to fooling with extracts making seems natures has the balance for a reason many times out of 10 adjusting these compositions only lead to nowhere or worse for generally healthy persons

 

[xhrr]

You are confused. Adaptations to exercise and ergogenesis are not synonymous. In fact, many ergogens are known to blunt adaptations to exercise while improving performance acutely

See this is where my knowledge is limited and it doesn't make much sense to me. I understand it can improve performance acutely but blunt adaptations to exercise. So when referring to adaptations are we talking about the health parameters? I think of adaptations as our body becoming acclimated to exercise and therefore recovering better and performing better is that wrong? If these compounds improve performance acutely would they not have positive effects over a given time period due to increased work capacity or muscular strength? It just doesn't make sense that something can increase your performance even acutely and be a bad thing but I am a ways away from all this stuff in my schooling.

I'm assuming you mean exercise performance is increasing but health markers are not increasing or at least not increasing in they way they should when observing an increase in performance.