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    Looking for the best nootropic


    Hi,

    i already tried:

    Noopept
    Aniracetam
    Alpha-GPC

    Didnt do much for me if anything. Is there a noot out there which i can really FEEL WORKING?

    Im looking for:

    -improved memory (learning)
    -recovery of lost memory
    -better concentration (anti-ADS)

    I seem also to be a non-responder to

    Modafinil
    Phenibut

    What do you think about phenylpiracetam?

    con: price, builds tolerance up quick

    Which noot has to be taken regularly with improved effects and which only occasional?

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    I would have said adrafinil but if you don't respond to modafinil than it won't do you any good... From what I've read people's responses to noot's vary from person to person, you'll just have to do some more trial and error. I've only been using noot's for a little over a month now and I can tell most of what you're going to get will probably be more subtle than something like caffeine. They mostly come on really slow and you have to take them for a few weeks to even begin to notice the subtle changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Hi,

    i already tried:

    Noopept
    Aniracetam
    Alpha-GPC

    Didnt do much for me if anything. Is there a noot out there which i can really FEEL WORKING?

    Im looking for:

    -improved memory (learning)
    -recovery of lost memory
    -better concentration (anti-ADS)

    I seem also to be a non-responder to

    Modafinil
    Phenibut

    What do you think about phenylpiracetam?

    con: price, builds tolerance up quick

    Which noot has to be taken regularly with improved effects and which only occasional?
    I don't think any noot will help you recover a lost memory in the sense that you may want. Often the best way to ensure you remember something is too kept learning it and revise/ refresh/ revisit the topic.

    Focus XT was designed with learning, focus and recall in mind. It literally got me through my exams. I used 500g Alcar + FXT pre study and crammed for 1 exam for 2 days. I had 64 pages of writing I had to 'memorize' in order to cover the topic in depth. I had no time to learn it all, but in those 2 days I could practically recite the 64 pages of single spaced size 12 font by memory.

    I challenge you to give it a try but remember that learning also comes from your ability to read information in a variety of ways and expecting to learn something or commit it to memory after reading it once is not always possible.

    Read the information, read information surrounding the topic area and the areas it interacts with (i.e. if you are say, learning how red blood cells work, then you should learn what a red blood cell is, how it travels in the body, how oxygen binds to it, how Co2 binds to it, the components of a RBC, etc). Learning more enables you to put it into context which makes recall much easier as you have more opportunity for any stage in that process to trigger recall.

    Also, read it aloud, teach somebody the information and draw diagrams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Try out Focus XT.
    Appreciate the shout out sir.

    I was always a hug proponent of Focus XT well before I started with SNS. It has various application of use. For 3 years or so in college, I used it strictly as a pre-class/pre-study aid (rarely pre-workout). It was always very useful for those 8am classes for sure. Now I use it in an office setting or for pre workout usage (5AM lifts come early).

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    How exactly do you "feel" a noot? I think you want a stim...
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    No effect off of noopept? Did you use it under the tongue?

    Selank and Semax nose drops are good

    I like taking bromanatan before workouts.

    Bacopa, rhodiola, ashwagandha, ginseng, are all standard herbs for such purposes.

    Also, I noticed that actual plain old piracetam is absent from your list; try out 2.5 grams at once and see if you dont feel the clarity and such that it brings many people.
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    There is no "best" per se as it depends on the individual. I've tried everything and for me Bacopa and gotu kola provide the sort of benefits you are describing. If I add in a racetam and some choline, the memory benefits are enhanced.
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    Sulbutamine with Caffein works well for but not by itself, same with Alpha GPC.
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    What does everyone think about -- http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/l...-servings.html ? Don't have much experience with nootropics but this one piqued my interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    What does everyone think about -- http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/l...-servings.html ? Don't have much experience with nootropics but this one piqued my interest.
    It should be a nice energy product , not a nootropics , but unfortunately many will build a tolerance to it quickly

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    Demiurge is by far my favorite nootropic and I generally use it the day of big exams. Nootropics are widely individualized but most people seem to like Demiurge as well. I suggest giving it a try as I have done much better on exams whilst taking it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    Demiurge is by far my favorite nootropic and I generally use it the day of big exams. Nootropics are widely individualized but most people seem to like Demiurge as well. I suggest giving it a try as I have done much better on exams whilst taking it.
    I second demiurge or any phenylpirecetum, that stacked with focus xt is gold
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    Quote Originally Posted by EatMoar View Post
    I second demiurge or any phenylpirecetum, that stacked with focus xt is gold
    That's usually what I go with or possible add in adrafinil. Great study stack!
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    I liked the combination of pramiracetam + Focus XT the best personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    That's usually what I go with or possible add in adrafinil. Great study stack!
    I went without it for the second half of the semester. It sucked
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by dkgreene88 View Post
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    You misspelled Pina Colada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    You misspelled Pina Colada
    Probably like 3 in my book. I've had it twice, and when I was alternating it with another tub everyday I enjoyed it more. I usually just down everything fairly quickly anyways so flavoring, although superb, isn't a big deal for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    Demiurge is by far my favorite nootropic and I generally use it the day of big exams. Nootropics are widely individualized but most people seem to like Demiurge as well. I suggest giving it a try as I haved done much better on exams whilst taking it.
    Which dosage did you use before exams?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdiblasi View Post
    That's usually what I go with or possible add in adrafinil. Great study stack!
    Are you taking both Demiurge & Adrafinil together? How are you dosing each?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uubiduu View Post
    Which dosage did you use before exams?
    I typically wouldn't go from my experience since Demiurge seems to be extremely individualized.. some people like it a lot at 2 capsules while others like it a lot at 4 capsules. If I remember correctly, mr. cooper liked it at 1 g which is a ton. I'd recommend starting at 2 capsules and adjusting it to your needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronuconn View Post
    Probably like 3 in my book. I've had it twice, and when I was alternating it with another tub everyday I enjoyed it more. I usually just down everything fairly quickly anyways so flavoring, although superb, isn't a big deal for me.
    I love using vitastix for flavouring. .20 cents per packet that makes 700ml. I add lemon lime or orange to pink lemonade and its so.good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post

    I love using vitastix for flavouring. .20 cents per packet that makes 700ml. I add lemon lime or orange to pink lemonade and its so.good
    They available in Aus Heydon? Need some flavouring for bulk powders
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF_2356 View Post

    They available in Aus Heydon? Need some flavouring for bulk powders
    No idea tbh. Vitasport make them.

    My local supermarket has them really cheap ( i think they're normally 3.50 for 12 or two for $5). Great flavour though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    I'm going to a concert tonight and want to be able to stay awake after a long day of work?

    What would be a better choice, Phenibut or Phenylpiracetam? And can either of those be stacked alongside 2g of ALCAR?
    I would not opt for Phenibut to stay awake

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    I would not opt for Phenibut to stay awake
    Nor should you take it if you plan on drinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Nor should you take it if you plan on drinking
    Actually that has become quite popular

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    I'm going to a concert tonight and want to be able to stay awake after a long day of work?

    What would be a better choice, Phenibut or Phenylpiracetam? And can either of those be stacked alongside 2g of ALCAR?
    PhenylP would be your best bet, although I'd opt for caffeine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post

    Actually that has become quite popular
    Haha i'm just warning him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post



    Thanks guys for the suggestions. I went with 2 caps of Demiurge (first time trying it out, really enjoyed it).

    I don't drink alcohol so that's why I was looking for an alternative to loosen me up a bit. I was going with some people I don't know and I tend to have a bit of social anxiety so I was looking for something to keep me calm yet possibly make me a bit more talkative.

    I read people like to take Phenibut before going to the bars so that's why I wasn't sure if that or PhenylP would have been the better choice.
    Aniracetam would be also interesting for your purposes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dan View Post
    Thanks guys for the suggestions. I went with 2 caps of Demiurge (first time trying it out, really enjoyed it).

    I don't drink alcohol so that's why I was looking for an alternative to loosen me up a bit. I was going with some people I don't know and I tend to have a bit of social anxiety so I was looking for something to keep me calm yet possibly make me a bit more talkative.

    I read people like to take Phenibut before going to the bars so that's why I wasn't sure if that or PhenylP would have been the better choice.
    Phenibut is decent for that usage, but it wouldn't really keep you alert. I used it in the past before giving very public speeches and it definitely helped. If you have mild social anxiety, however, and not an anxiety disorder, the best thing you can do is immerse yourself into social situations Practice makes perfect!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patuba View Post
    Focus XT with added Alcar, if needed, is a great starting place for beginners. I can't recommend them enough.
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    Works!

    -250mg aniracetam with little olive oil mixed (if you overdose you'll have hungover 5 hours later, feeling anxoius and you'll feel as starving)

    -coluracetam (very, very little 10mg)

    -piracetam with water , just 200 mg

    -I always have coffee


    Oxytacetam felt nothing, phenylpiracetam (good but could induce panic attacks), pramiracetam (good one, just not for every day)
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    Quote Originally Posted by juliustroctus View Post
    Works!

    -250mg aniracetam with little olive oil mixed (if you overdose you'll have hungover 5 hours later, feeling anxoius and you'll feel as starving)

    -coluracetam (very, very little 10mg)

    -piracetam with water , just 200 mg

    -I always have coffee


    Oxytacetam felt nothing, phenylpiracetam (good but could induce panic attacks), pramiracetam (good one, just not for every day)
    What did you see with pramiracetam?
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    For me it felt a bit like phenylpiracetam...very alert, focused, but kinda anxious and edgy. If the mood aspects are negative, I tend to only use for intense study/focus situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman View Post
    For me it felt a bit like phenylpiracetam...very alert, focused, but kinda anxious and edgy. If the mood aspects are negative, I tend to only use for intense study/focus situations.
    What do you mean by mood negatives?I am currently using 150mgs phenylpiracetam at work 2-3 days a week for focus situations as well.Every day I take 300mgs of Alpha GPC & 750mgs Aniracetam twice a day with fats. I was thinking of trying pramiracetam next.
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