- 12-06-2013, 02:33 PM
A relative of mine always says they have triedand it "doesn't do anything for them". They were taking the swallow form of GNC 5mg, and also tried the two caps of the Nature's Bounty 10mg. There is probably something more going on if 10mg of melatonin doesn't at least make some really drowsy.
But I had them try the sublingual version of a 1MG/pill, and they were able to get to sleep with 3mg. Probably some mental aspect to that, but if it works for them, by all means.
- 12-06-2013, 04:15 PM
Yep, i touched ona while back, didn't think anything of it, but having tried all sorts of supplements that stim the hell out of you, boost testosterone (and stress!), this kind of subtle great nights sleep supplement is where the repair is at, and quite nice to return to! The herbal nytol did wonders last night, waiting for the simply supplements order to arrive, but no abyss isn't anywhere, i cant find for under 36 quid, is 34, powerfull is 24
12-07-2013, 04:36 PM
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12-10-2013, 07:35 AM
Blimey, the Valerian complex isn nothing to be sniffed at - I had one the other night at 3am whne I wok up, it wa ok but felt really tired by the AM, had to have loads of stims to get going. I had one the other night and bam I was out like a light! I woke at 8am to do something on my mind (work) then 9am back to sleep and fell asleep for another 2.5 hours! Forced myself out of bed, but felt VERY rested thanks to the total 12 hours sleep!
Stops night time 'fidgeting' anyway, that can make you wake up a lot. Nytol herbal seems to work ok too, milder but a nice sleep with no morning hangover.
12-10-2013, 09:14 AM
12-10-2013, 04:13 PM
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12-10-2013, 04:30 PM
A lot if the iForce reps have already suggested it but as someone with no stake in iForce I can vouch for Intimidate SRT. it's the only sleep supplement that I've actually felt did something for me as it had me sleeping through the night, vivid dreams, and waking up refreshed and pretty much springing out f bed with te first chirp of the alarm. It's like $20 too for a month so it's a pretty good deal IMO. I had a log of the whole thing if you wanna check it out.
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12-11-2013, 09:52 AM
Im just coming off daa so, no go.
Ordered ldopa, 90 tabs, £7 as a more long term solution than the valerian, and as a libido boost alongside tropinol xp
Scientifically proven, it also gives you a fat willy!
12-11-2013, 10:09 AM
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12-11-2013, 05:33 PM
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12-12-2013, 09:28 AM
Oddly enough, I started ZMA about a year ago, and it really helped me sleep better. I am someone who will fall asleep quick but wake up 2 hrs later and want to get up. With ZMA it seemed I would sleep nearly all night.
I ve always taken melotonin, but the addition if ZMA was great for me. I ve heard others say it did nothing for them in the sleep category, but everyone is different.
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12-12-2013, 09:05 PM
I have always been a big ZMA user to help with the ZZZ. Recently I started using REM-8.0 and find I have great sleep. Another one I used with great benefits was Humanopro by Labrada. Some of the best sleep I've gotten.
12-14-2013, 10:43 PM
12-15-2013, 05:03 AM
The way you are talking, it doesn't seem that sleep onset is the issue - more of just overall quality. Sorry if you mentioned it earlier, but have you given L-Dopa a chance by itself? How about magnesium?
This could all just be an acute thing as well since you mentioned stress and such.
12-15-2013, 11:32 AM
Best sleep aid for me has been this cost effective stack:
ZMAs, Passion flower. (700mg) & agmatine (500mg).
It relaxes me then knocks me out.
Not everyone responds to ZMAs, but I'm glad it works for me. Oh and yes I have tried multiple sleep aid products from reliable brands and this little stack still works the best at half of the price.
12-15-2013, 11:35 AM
12-16-2013, 06:24 AM
Yep, ordered ldopa last week, on it as soon as it arrives.bi got it initially as an alternative to usp powerfull, its only 15% however noone van give me clear info on dosage so im going 1-2 before bed.
The valerian complex us a good knock out but you cant take it daily due to the mini hangover.
12-16-2013, 07:06 AM
Just got a bunch of free phenibut from my neighbors(they tried it on my recommendation but didn't like it) been taking it with melatonin and nature's way zinc magnesium calcium only thing keeping me up now is my son little **** wakes up every 2 hours wanting a bottle. 21 months 28" 32lb little bundle of muscle lol
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12-16-2013, 07:07 AM
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12-17-2013, 05:40 AM
I believe the most highly-reviewed sleep aid is Abyss, but I haven't tried it and probably won't bother since my current stack is working so perfectly. Good luck dude; it is definitely no fun not being able to sleep!
12-17-2013, 05:46 AM
For me, Ldopa only really works on an empty stomach. Since I usually eat within an hour or two of sleep, it wasn't great. Also, don't eat any carbs at night when using Ldopa. I don't know why, but that reduces or eliminates its effects on sleep.
12-17-2013, 03:47 PM
Or you can go with Abyss Unparalleled and add some GABA or phenibut to it if you need some extra help falling asleep. The Abyss Unparalleled will knock your sleep cycle back in check on it's own though, takes a week or so but it will undoubtedly do that.
12-18-2013, 12:16 AM
Try to keep your sleeping environment cool and as dark as possible.
Make sure your environment is ideal - sheets you're comfortable with, the right level of firmness for your mattress, all that subjective **** that makes you feel right at home - and try to follow circadian rhythms (from the research I've seen, your body goes through energy peaks and troughs every 1.5 hours, very similar to sleep patterns). One of my professors was quite prominent in the field and was giving some anecdotal recommendations before finals.
LiGHts Out really does work wonders - I understand it's not cheap, so watch out for holiday sales. Abyss Unparalleled is awesome (have been stacking it with LO).
L-Dopa can work and help with sleep depth, not drowsing off as far as I've noticed. It gives me some crazy dreams if I read Stephen King books before bed.
Phenibut will help you relax but can have dependency issues.
Just try and relax, be happy, and leave your work at the office. As someone that works in a family business, I know this can be hard but discipline here will make you quite a bit happier in general. There's nothing you can't overcome, and the system shouldn't ever fail you.
12-18-2013, 06:14 AM
12-18-2013, 02:11 PM
Ambien works like a charm! haha
But in all honesty I prefer a cocktail of the following: L-Dopa, Valerian, 5HTP, Melatonin
That combo provides a nice calm feeling before bed and ensures higher quality sleep, without the massive hangovers you would receive from popular night time sleep aids like; diphenhydramine(Benadryl), Zomplidem Tartrate(ambien), etc..
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12-18-2013, 07:59 PM
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